What state should I move to now the Washington State legislature is trying to force me to work seven days a week? (HB 1155)

Capp · Apr 21, 2019

1 minute ago, klone said:
I’m not here, posting on Allnurses about how the tax law is screwing me personally. If I were, you bet I would at least READ about it first.

So your story changes again. First it was disdain for anyone who doesn’t read all the bills, then it was “well I only read all the bills that affect me personally,” now you are saying you only read bills that you mention on allnurses. Except, you aren’t even saying that; you are saying you would read “about” it. I’m basically 100% sure that you have never read a single bill in your entire life.

Horseshoe, BSN, RN · Apr 21, 2019

3 minutes ago, Capp said:
So your story changes again. First it was disdain for anyone who doesn’t read all the bills, then it was “well I only read all the bills that affect me personally,” now you are saying you only read bills that you mention on allnurses. Except, you aren’t even saying that; you are saying you would read “about” it. I’m basically 100% sure that you have never read a single bill in your entire life.

I'm confused. Can you quote the post where Klone expressed disdain for "anyone who doesn't read all the bills"?

Wuzzie · Apr 21, 2019

All this hostility isn’t really necessary nor is moving to another state. They are already in the process of returning this bill to its original form.

klone, MSN, RN · Apr 21, 2019

15 minutes ago, Capp said:
So your story changes again. First it was disdain for anyone who doesn’t read all the bills, then it was “well I only read all the bills that affect me personally,” now you are saying you only read bills that you mention on allnurses. Except, you aren’t even saying that; you are saying you would read “about” it. I’m basically 100% sure that you have never read a single bill in your entire life.

Smh. Fine, you win. I have no interest in continuing this pointless line of conversation.

Chare very generously posted a link to the bill - all Washington nurses, particularly those who work for CAHs I highly recommend you read it. I did, it’s very interesting.

AxelNewRN86 · Apr 21, 2019

As a washington state nurse, I do not think the ammendment will last. I am actually not worried about it too much since nurses are too outrage to let it just happen. We have good unions at the hospitals here.

However that being said I have many coworkers that work 60 hours a week due to high cost of living here. Those nurses are considering moving if the bill passes.

NICUmiiki, DNP, NP · Apr 21, 2019

I don't see how this bill forces you to work 7 days a week at all. I'm confused.

Capp · Apr 21, 2019

15 minutes ago, klone said:
Smh. Fine, you win. I have no interest in continuing this pointless line of conversation.
Chare very generously posted a link to the bill - all Washington nurses, particularly those who work for CAHs I highly recommend you read it. I did, it’s very interesting.

This pointless line of conversation that you started when you tried to insult me by lying about how you read all bills and your mind is "boggled" that there is anyone out there who is too stupid to not READ (in all caps) any bill that might affect them (meaning pretty much all bills.)

As for the bill, I didn't read it, but I know it's not "very interesting." I'm open to being proven wrong, but I would be willing to bet a lot of money that there is nothing "very interesting" in this bill.

MunoRN, RN · Apr 21, 2019

It may not be what the OP meant, but the bill does actually 'require' that full time nurses in hospitals work a 7-day stretch.

With the typical every-other-weekend requirement for 8 hour shifts, which an amendment to the bill limits nursing workdays to, the shortest possible stretch of the longer stretch of the schedule would be 7 days or nights in a row. This could be avoided if the nurse is willing to have only two consecutive days/nights off every two weeks, with the other two being solitary days/nights off. Single nights off aren't horrible for day shift, but for night shift a single night off is pretty pointless.

allnurses Guide · Apr 21, 2019

1 hour ago, MunoRN said:
It may not be what the OP meant, but the bill does actually 'require' that full time nurses in hospitals work a 7-day stretch.
With the typical every-other-weekend requirement for 8 hour shifts, which an amendment to the bill limits nursing workdays to, the shortest possible stretch of the longer stretch of the schedule would be 7 days or nights in a row. This could be avoided if the nurse is willing to have only two consecutive days/nights off every two weeks, with the other two being solitary days/nights off. Single nights off aren't horrible for day shift, but for night shift a single night off is pretty pointless.

I worked 11:00 pm to 7:30 am in the 1970s. I went to 0.9 because i still had benefits and only had to work nine nights every two weeks. Before that it was only every two weeks to have two nights off in a row. My health and time with my kids was worth the smaller paycheck (I was an LVN then.)

Emergent, RN · Apr 21, 2019

I don't think most people actually read bills. They are written in legal language that is exhausting for a layman to plod through.

We usually rely on the interpretation of experts.

Horseshoe, BSN, RN · Apr 21, 2019

I agree with Wuzzie. There is no reason for the OP to be so completely enraged because someone had the audacity to suggest she read the bill (very short reading btw) that is the subject of her thread. Completely unnecessary to continue on in this vein.

Capp · Apr 21, 2019

18 minutes ago, Emergent said:
I don't think most people actually read bills. They are written in legal language that is exhausting for a layman to plod through.
We usually rely on the interpretation of experts.

Exactly. I wouldn’t just read the cliff notes if it was like great literature or something. For a bill, the cliff notes is more than enough.