I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
An Indiana doctor who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old Ohio rape victim sued Indiana's attorney general on Thursday, demanding an end to investigations seeking medical records about patients and their abortions.
The suit filed by Dr. Caitlin Bernard alleges Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita has abused his authority to regulate licensed physicians by issuing multiple subpoenas based on frivolous complaints from third parties who had no interest in the case.
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4 hours ago, Weetywill said:
Just my opinion here, but I think the "foreign opporatives" idea is a stretch and sounds more conspiracy than actual reality.
I find huge amounts of propaganda in everything we consume so it's hard to tell what true, what's not, and what's partial true etc.
The lies you mention, are you referring to the lie that the election was stolen? Or does questioning/regulating an election to insure its integrity include denying an election? All powerful forms of government need to be regulated and put under scrutiny to prevent corruption. Just like nurses. The BON regulates, questions and to a point, scrutinize the profession to insure nurses are not abusing their power.
Sometimes not giving something attention like "the election was stolen" serves a greater purpose. And some politicians may feel that there are more important issues to focus on than the "election was stolen" there for do not actively add to the ridiculousness of the sentiment? Perhaps they want to address factors effecting their voters like gas prices and crime instead of focusing the election was stolen and Jan.6. It wasn't stolen so why continue talking about it? Questioning results and the process has been standard in almost every election. Insuring integrity in elections is necessary. If an institution like a democracy and its process isn't put under any scrutiny, then that leaves open an oportunity for corruption. However, I do not believe insuring election integrity isvthe same as election denying. At the end of the day, people can and will believe what they want.
I just find is unsettling that Biden and other Democrats as well as left news sources suggest voting for republican makes the voters implicit of being election deniers and voting republican in a democratic election makes them against our democracy? LOL
I guess we will see this week what's important to voters. However, if Republicans win, that does not make the voters implicit of anything nefarious, just good ol' voting for the party that best aligns with what's important in their lives. The side that loses is accountable for their loss.
If you think "foreign operatives" is a stretch that might be because you haven't read much about it. The article I shared was pretty straightforward and specific.
I don't think it's that difficult to avoid believing propaganda. When one reads or hears a tantalizing tidbit but cannot corraborate it in with known and credible journalism, one takes the risk of relying upon propaganda. Verifying information before sharing as factual is pretty standard behavior for college graduates.
Yes, I'm talking about the lies that suggest that the 2020 election was stolen or insecure (it was neither). In talking about the lies that democrats somehow cheated and are planning to cheat now ( they didn't and they aren't). I'm talking about the nearly 300 Republicans running on the Trump lies about elections. Trump and those liars have convinced millions of republican voters in a straight up lie about electing security. They've indicated that they are changing things to prevent something like 2020 happening again.
Lying about stolen elections and voter fraud are not the same as regulation or scrutiny of elections. That seems self evident. Lying about election security is a form of corruption and is typically a tool used to destabilize a democracy.
It's foolish to ignore the lies of authoritarians and right wing extremists who are trying to decrease confidence in our elections for their own political gain. History teaches us this reality. Are you familiar with the historical tactics of those attempting to undermine democracy?
Nobody is suggesting what you believe they are suggesting... that's your interpretation without substantiation. Republican voters are going to vote for election deniers, that's a given. If those election deniers manage to achieve what they desire, then those voters will have been complicit in overthrowing our democracy based upon lies and misrepresentations... just like voters did in Germany 100 years ago.
But, there are many leftist groups whose mission it is to raise money to pay bail for both nonviolent and violent offenders.
Remember in 2020 when our current VP was encouraging people to donate to one in Minnesota?
No, I did not remember when Harris encouraged people to donate to the Minnesota Freedom Fund. I found an article from the Washington Post, who reported she did this before she was nominated for the VP. It turns out few of the protesters in MN needed assistance with bail. The fund did help with bail for a person who fired at police officers who were firing from an unmarked van, also someone who was charged with looting.
Still, I am curious if the claim that violent offenders are being released without bail can be backed up.
Foreign influence operations—which include covert actions by foreign governments to influence U.S. political sentiment or public discourse—are not a new problem. But the interconnectedness of the modern world, combined with the anonymity of the Internet, have changed the nature of the threat and how the FBI and its partners must address it. The goal of these foreign influence operations directed against the United States is to spread disinformation, sow discord, and, ultimately, undermine confidence in our democratic institutions and values....
....Most widely reported these days are attempts by adversaries—hoping to reach a wide swath of Americans covertly from outside the United States—to use false personas and fabricated stories on social media platforms to discredit U.S. individuals and institutions.
Other influence operations by adversaries include:
Targeting U.S. officials and other U.S. persons through traditional intelligence tradecraft
Criminal efforts to suppress voting and provide illegal campaign financing
Cyber attacks against voting infrastructure, along with computer intrusions targeting elected officials and others
..It comes after FBI Director Christopher Wray said in July that “I think we’re concerned about the same usual suspects” ahead of the midterm elections, pointing to China, Russia, and Iran.
provides cybersecurity recommendations to political campaigns on multiple topics, including foreign influence, to help mitigate the risk of cyber influence operations targeting U.S. elections. For more information, visit fbi.gov/protectedvoices.
If you think "foreign operatives" is a stretch that might be because you haven't read much about it. The article I shared was pretty straightforward and specific.
I don't think it's that difficult to avoid believing propaganda. When one reads or hears a tantalizing tidbit but cannot corraborate it in with known and credible journalism, one takes the risk of relying upon propaganda. Verifying information before sharing as factual is pretty standard behavior for college graduates.
Yes, I'm talking about the lies that suggest that the 2020 election was stolen or insecure (it was neither). In talking about the lies that democrats somehow cheated and are planning to cheat now ( they didn't and they aren't). I'm talking about the nearly 300 Republicans running on the Trump lies about elections. Trump and those liars have convinced millions of republican voters in a straight up lie about electing security. They've indicated that they are changing things to prevent something like 2020 happening again.
Lying about stolen elections and voter fraud are not the same as regulation or scrutiny of elections. That seems self evident. Lying about election security is a form of corruption and is typically a tool used to destabilize a democracy.
It's foolish to ignore the lies of authoritarians and right wing extremists who are trying to decrease confidence in our elections for their own political gain. History teaches us this reality. Are you familiar with the historical tactics of those attempting to undermine democracy?
Nobody is suggesting what you believe they are suggesting... that's your interpretation without substantiation. Republican voters are going to vote for election deniers, that's a given. If those election deniers manage to achieve what they desire, then those voters will have been complicit in overthrowing our democracy based upon lies and misrepresentations... just like voters did in Germany 100 years ago.
Fair enough but I do not think that if Republicans win they will try and "over throw our democracy". By being elected in a democratic election? LOL
I don't understand? Voting in a democratic election for the party you chose makes one implicit in overturning our democracy?
Yes these things happened in the past but I do not think that's the goal of the Republican party. Are you suggesting they will,or even could turn our democracy into a fascist government? Or whatever overthrowing our democracy means? If they win? Really? I think some left propaganda has tried to cause fear amoung voters to suggest as such to sway peoples votes. The Germany reference is an example of that. Or to disuade voting republican for fear of voting for "election deniers". This is just as shameful as Republicans denying elections.
This week we will see who wins and who doesn't. Whomever wins, they won in a democratic election the way it was intended. I'm confident that the election will be safe and secure. And the results will be accepted by both parties. I think suggesting that Republican will try and turn the US into a fascist country or suggest they will turn our country into Nazi Germany, is right up there with some really fantastical right wing propaganda.
Just my opinion here, but I think the "foreign opporatives" idea is a stretch and sounds more conspiracy than actual reality.
I find huge amounts of propaganda in everything we consume so it's hard to tell what true, what's not, and what's partial true etc.
The lies you mention, are you referring to the lie that the election was stolen? Or does questioning/regulating an election to insure its integrity include denying an election? All powerful forms of government need to be regulated and put under scrutiny to prevent corruption. Just like nurses. The BON regulates, questions and to a point, scrutinize the profession to insure nurses are not abusing their power.
Sometimes not giving something attention like "the election was stolen" serves a greater purpose. And some politicians may feel that there are more important issues to focus on than the "election was stolen" there for do not actively add to the ridiculousness of the sentiment? Perhaps they want to address factors effecting their voters like gas prices and crime instead of focusing the election was stolen and Jan.6. It wasn't stolen so why continue talking about it? Questioning results and the process has been standard in almost every election. Insuring integrity in elections is necessary. If an institution like a democracy and its process isn't put under any scrutiny, then that leaves open an oportunity for corruption. However, I do not believe insuring election integrity isvthe same as election denying. At the end of the day, people can and will believe what they want.
I just find is unsettling that Biden and other Democrats as well as left news sources suggest voting for republican makes the voters implicit of being election deniers and voting republican in a democratic election makes them against our democracy? LOL
I guess we will see this week what's important to voters. However, if Republicans win, that does not make the voters implicit of anything nefarious, just good ol' voting for the party that best aligns with what's important in their lives. The side that loses is accountable for their loss.
Welcome Weety Will— of all the forums in a website about nurses, hmmmm welcome anyhow. ?
In this instance, yes it looks like the questioning of the election and the subsequent events that followed shows that many people deny/denied the election.
This is not the same as the BON! Nurses can’t yield that kind of POWER.
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9 hours ago, Weetywill said:
Fair enough but I do not think that if Republicans win they will try and "over throw our democracy". By being elected in a democratic election? LOL
I don't understand? Voting in a democratic election for the party you chose makes one implicit in overturning our democracy?
Yes these things happened in the past but I do not think that's the goal of the Republican party. Are you suggesting they will,or even could turn our democracy into a fascist government? Or whatever overthrowing our democracy means? If they win? Really? I think some left propaganda has tried to cause fear amoung voters to suggest as such to sway peoples votes. The Germany reference is an example of that. Or to disuade voting republican for fear of voting for "election deniers". This is just as shameful as Republicans denying elections.
This week we will see who wins and who doesn't. Whomever wins, they won in a democratic election the way it was intended. I'm confident that the election will be safe and secure. And the results will be accepted by both parties. I think suggesting that Republican will try and turn the US into a fascist country or suggest they will turn our country into Nazi Germany, is right up there with some really fantastical right wing propaganda.
But you don't think...
You don't understand...
Are you suggesting that a democracy (this democracy) cannot be changed into a fascist government? Just because you do not believe it doesn't make it unlikely. I would suggest that your amused disbelief is part of the plan for conservative messaging. That's why it's so dangerous that so many conservative voters isolate themselves in a right-wing media diet which never examines the corrupt intentions of right-wing candidates or political leadership...a focus upon liberals not upon bad actors.
You think some propaganda has fear mongered liberals into believing that republicans, backed by the guy who started the election lie and who felt like the VP in 2020 should change the EC results for Trump or face the mob, arent attached to democracy if they aren't winning. You should bring some evidence of that propaganda to the discussion to counter the factual evidence that we/I have shared that they are. You say you believe that all candidates will accept loss even when republican candidates have given every indication that they are going to use Trump's playbook. Nearly 300 of these folks are campaigning on the Trump electing lies and have indicated that they are going to make things more "secure" for politicians like themselves. A dozen or so of these liars tried to overturn the election in 2020... now Republicans may elect them to office... knowing that they are not above destroying democracy to get what they want. What is your belief based upon?
I wonder if you know the history of that specific rise of right wing extremism in Germany a century ago because it sounds like you don't know and, instead, want to dismiss the details and focus upon the term Nazi in an attempt to discourage the comparison of behavior. Let's compare the political tactics.
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Fueled by Falsehoods, a Michigan Group Is Ready to Challenge the Vote https://nyti.ms/3tblEFu
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The invitation went out in early July.
Republican activists, lawyers and elected officials in Michigan who call the results of the 2020 election fraudulent would unite with a single focus: “to provide ongoing citizen oversight, transparency, and accountability” in elections. They adopted the name Michigan Fair Elections and the simple slogan, “Choose Freedom.”
Over the next months, the participants got to work trying to remake democracy in the nation’s 10th largest state under the banner of integrity.
They recruited and trained challengers to spot and document minute ballot irregularities; filed lawsuits to undermine protections for the vote-counting process; and debated the merits of calling 911 on poll workers deemed to be violating rules. In weekly Zoom meetings, they discussed friendly insiders positioned on Michigan canvassing boards, which certify results; repeated debunked conspiracy theories about election machines, ballot “mules” and widespread voter fraud; and obsessed over the idea that Democrats “cheat” to win elections.
“If there is a close election, it’s going to be up to us to fix it,” said Erick Kaardal, a lawyer with the Thomas More Society, a conservative legal group in Chicago, during an Oct. 27 Zoom attended by more than 50 people. “We’re the team that’s going to have to fix an election in Michigan if it’s rigged.”
Here's an important bit...
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The New York Times reviewed more than 20 hours of recordings of Michigan Fair Elections meetings, along with training sessions and organizing calls from closely linked groups. What emerged was a picture of an organization fueled by falsehoods, bent on trying to influence the 2022 midterms and determined to change the voting system in ways that would benefit Republicans.
The Michigan group has counterparts around the country. Since the 2020 election, activists have rallied behind Donald J. Trump’s claims about rigged elections and set out to find evidence to prove their theories and change the system. They have staked out ballot drop boxes, recruited thousands of volunteers to monitor voting in the midterm elections and filed legal challenges.
Republican activities concerning elections that are based in a Trumpian lie are not honest or patriotic and only serve to destabilize our democracy.
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Election officials and governance experts say that if there is an erosion of trust in elections, Mr. Trump and his supporters are causing it. In Michigan, election officials say they are prepared for activists and lawyers to challenge close races in court by asking the judges to discard thousands of ballots in Democratic strongholds such as Detroit and Grand Rapids, and by filing lawsuits that seek to delay or block the certification of results.
On one recent Zoom meeting, Mr. Kaardal spoke about plans to try to force the entire governor’s race to be rerun. Mr. Colbeck last week called for a “full forensic audit” — a buzz word for the type of discredited, partisan examination of votes conducted in Arizona last year — regardless of the outcome.
We have to hope our system of laws and checks and balances can hold against an un-American assault by angry Americans who believe lies or who would use lies to forward their political agenda.
In a report that was published on Monday, researchers at the Fletcher School at Tufts University said the early signs of Mr. Musk’s Twitter “show the platform is heading in the wrong direction under his leadership — at a particularly inconvenient time for American democracy.”
The researchers said they had tracked narratives about civil war, election fraud, citizen policing of voting, and allegations of pedophilia and grooming on Twitter from July through October. “Post-Musk takeover, the quality of the conversation has decayed” as more extremists and misinformation peddlers have tested the platform’s boundaries, the researchers wrote.
Amid the hubbub, Mr. Musk’s behavior on Twitter suggests that he intends to simply post through it. And while he has always been a prolific tweeter, he has raised the level in recent days.
I wonder if this is going as Musk expected it to go...
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Mr. Musk, who has called himself a “free speech absolutist,” is learning the basic expectation of content moderation for popular social networks, said Daphne Keller, director of the Program on Platform Regulation at Stanford’s Cyber Policy Center.
“His ideas have been incoherent for a while,” she said.
On Sunday night, Mr. Musk responded to a tweet featuring a quote from a white nationalist, before deleting the post and moving on to squabble with Mr. Dorsey over Birdwatch, a feature that lets community members add context to tweets that they believe are misleading. Mr. Musk, who previously lauded the feature, proposed changing the feature’s name to “Community Notes.”
“Community notes is the most boring facebook name ever,” replied Mr. Dorsey, who owns a $1 billion stake in Mr. Musk’s Twitter.
What did we do to deserve having another malignant narcissist intent upon having deep influence in our daily lives?
Fair enough but I do not think that if Republicans win they will try and "over throw our democracy". By being elected in a democratic election? LOL
Yes these things happened in the past but I do not think that's the goal of the Republican party. Are you suggesting they will…
Now William, have you not watched the news at all this Summer? Are you not keeping up with the changes being made in regards to womens right. The gun crisis, We’re in a gun crisis. Yet with all these great minds at work there seems to be no end to the amount of violence being inflicted among innocent people babies hardworking individuals the elderly doctors grocery store workers church goers etc.
And I believe this is just the beginning of the changes that are being made or not being made depending on how it fits the agenda.
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