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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news.  I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.

https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6

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According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.

Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.

The arrested the guy the next day. 

What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there. 

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chare said:

The company got fined, the human got jailed.  

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Packers has faced no criminal charges, despite evidence that it failed to take basic steps to verify the age of its young employees. Last month, it quickly resolved the case by paying a $1.5 million civil fine. The families of the teen workers, by contrast, have been exposed to child-abuse charges and potential deportation. None have applied for work permits and the protection against deportation that is available to the child workers, fearing retaliation in a company town where almost everyone's job is somehow tied to the meatpacking industry.

This is exactly the way the business community prefers it. This has been going on for a very very long time.  This very company had a permanent injunction placed on them last year for violating child labor laws.  I think it's time for a couple people in high level leadership to be held accountable for the law breaking.  After all, corporations are people and people go to jail for repeated law breaking. 

https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20221206-3

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A federal court in Nebraska today entered a consent order and judgment in which Packers Sanitation Services Inc. LTD – one of the nation's largest providers of food safety sanitation services – agreed to immediately comply with child labor laws at all facilities nationwide and to take significant steps to ensure future compliance, including employing an outside compliance specialist.

The action comes after a Nov. 10, 2022, order by U.S. District Court Judge John M. Gerrard that temporarily restrained the company and its employees from violating the child labor provisions of the Fair Labor Standards Act, identified by the U.S. Department of Labor. The department's investigation into the company's child labor violations continues.

 

toomuchbaloney said:

The company got fined, the human got jailed. 

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Yes, her stepfather, and potentially her mother.

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I've been thinking recently that, with all the whining about labor shortages, why we haven't considered job programs for immigrants other than migrant labor. Just because they speak Spanish, doesn't mean they have no skills.

Given 6 billion people alive on the planet, now, along with the progressive destruction of local ecosystems (ie food and water supplies), the pressures on our borders is only going to get worse. Maybe the big gun/scorched earth solution isn't the only available survival strategy. Climate refugees are on the move now, trying to save themselves and their children.

I remember a thread on the nursing forums asking if COVID could be an extinction event.

The idea was generally dismissed, but it got me thinking about extinction events and how various life forms would survive one. It might serve us well to understand natural selection. 

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Trump must have solved the potable water problem that might prohibit building 10 new cities on empty federal land.  His simplistic thinking is stunning. 

toomuchbaloney said:

Trump must have solved the potable water problem that might prohibit building 10 new cities on empty federal land.  His simplistic thinking is stunning. 

Sometimes the simple solution is the best.

heron said:

I've been thinking recently that, with all the whining about labor shortages, why we haven't considered job programs for immigrants other than migrant labor. Just because they speak Spanish, doesn't mean they have no skills.

Given 6 billion people alive on the planet, now, along with the progressive destruction of local ecosystems (ie food and water supplies), the pressures on our borders is only going to get worse. Maybe the big gun/scorched earth solution isn't the only available survival strategy. Climate refugees are on the move now, trying to save themselves and their children.

I remember a thread on the nursing forums asking if COVID could be an extinction event.

The idea was generally dismissed, but it got me thinking about extinction events and how various life forms would survive one. It might serve us well to understand natural selection. 

Cut off welfare and climate refugee problem solved.

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MaybeeRN said:

Sometimes the simple solution is the best.

Cut off welfare and climate refugee problem solved.

LOL

Simple solution =/= simplistic thinking 

But simplistic thinking does explain your remark to a degree. I wonder if you think that the welfare reforms and cuts of the 1990s solved problems.  Wait I don't wonder because it's unlikely that you thought about it at all but I did want to mention that reform. Do all conservatives believe that life in the USA will be generally better if the poor have more struggle and hardship or is it just you? 

toomuchbaloney said:

LOL

Simple solution =/= simplistic thinking 

But simplistic thinking does explain your remark to a degree. I wonder if you think that the welfare reforms and cuts of the 1990s solved problems.  Wait I don't wonder because it's unlikely that you thought about it at all but I did want to mention that reform. Do all conservatives believe that life in the USA will be generally better if the poor have more struggle and hardship or is it just you? 

23% of the budget goes to welfare.  Actually more that that if you count all the welfare we've sent to Ukraine shoring up their pensions.

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toomuchbaloney said:

Trump must have solved the potable water problem that might prohibit building 10 new cities on empty federal land.  His simplistic thinking is stunning. 

If you believe this, I have a bridge to give you if I'm elected. Just ask trump's debtors - lawyers, contractors, municipalities "graced" by his campaign rallies, investors in his bankrupt businesses, trump university alums - what his promises are worth.

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MaybeeRN said:

23% of the budget goes to welfare.  Actually more that that if you count all the welfare we've sent to Ukraine shoring up their pensions.

It looks like you need to define welfare and provide a citation otherwise this reads as regurgitated rhetoric., because "welfare expenditures account for roughly 23% of general expenditures... not 23% of the total budget. Does it matter to you that the vast majority of that money pays for medical care for the nation's most vulnerable? 

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heron said:

If you believe this, I have a bridge to give you if I'm elected. Just ask trump's debtors - lawyers, contractors, municipalities "graced" by his campaign rallies, investors in his bankrupt businesses, trump university alums - what his promises are worth.

No, I don't believe a word of it, the fellow is a practiced and serial liar.  But there are millions of Americans who will believe it just like they believed his shtick on so many other topics... healthcare, the deep state, the pandemic... all BS intended to manipulate his voters.

Where do you suppose Trump envisions these new freedom cities? Nevada? That's the state with the most federal land.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

No, I don't believe a word of it, the fellow is a practiced and serial liar.  But there are millions of Americans who will believe it just like they believed his shtick on so many other topics... healthcare, the deep state, the pandemic... all BS intended to manipulate his voters.

Where do you suppose Trump envisions these new freedom cities? Nevada? That's the state with the most federal land.  

When Lake Mead overflows:)

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Refugees and asylees don't qualify for TANF or SNAP. Some states may offer some benefits, like health care for children. 

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