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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news.  I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.

https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6

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According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.

Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.

The arrested the guy the next day. 

What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there. 

toomuchbaloney said:

Your isolation from recent history is almost comical. Even though you clearly haven't read or been influenced by the other citations which discuss this correlation, I'll post some more.  Just the volume of citations available is testimony to how intentional ongoing ignorance of the connection really is. Why are you unaware? 

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/03/26/980480882/why-pandemics-give-birth-to-hate-from-black-death-to-covid-19

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2217950119

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7364747/

Do you think that only liberals live in "blue states" or what is your point? 

Heavy blue states and blue cities in NY and California have seen upticks in anti-Asian violence almost all that I've seen on the news (videos) are black perpetrators.  I guess you're going to say that's the black face of white nationalism?  None of your links give any credence to Trump causing anything.

Specializes in Public Health, TB.

So if someone of Asian descent asks you directly to not use the term "China flu", would you comply? 

I think as healthcare professionals, we should use correct terminology. 

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
heron said:

"Covid came from China" may - or may not - be a statement of an irrelevant fact. Using that possibility as an excuse to attack anyone who looks Asian is xenophobic. I'll consider using "China virus" when you start referring to HIV as "the American virus".

( Covid probably came from bats, which may or may not have contracted it in China.) 

You're as ill-informed as ever - back to the ignore list. Are you liberated yet?

Liberation is so sweet.

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
toomuchbaloney said:

Tell me that you don't know much about exponential viral growth without using those words... oh wait... you just did that.  It makes sense, given your preferred media that you are clueless as to how badly Trump and his team botched the US pandemic response. Right wing media like Fox is known for creating a narrative to entertain their audience... not inform them. The 2020 election and the pandemic are examples of that misinformation. 

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejme2029812

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3417

https://www.cato.org/pandemics-policy/covid-19-case-study-government-failure#experience-covid-19-other-countries

This article catalogs some of the failures of the Trump administration. 

Just a reminder that some people here may not realize that the Cato Institutue is a conservative think tank.   Not a MAGA non-think tank but the real tank with the true conservative thinkers.

Specializes in Home care/Travel.
nursej22 said:

So if someone of Asian descent asks you directly to not use the term "China flu", would you comply? 

I think as healthcare professionals, we should use correct terminology. 

No one said they said "China flu". Only that there is not any direct evidence that Trump calling it the China virus  caused a up kick in hate crime. Even the sources given by baloney said they started to increase and then continued after he said that. 

I call it COVID as most people do. So an Asian person wouldn't have to ask that. 

However COVID did come from China. 

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Roitrn said:

Yup. Loosely complied data showing correlation but not causation. Or no evidence to directly link what you claim. 

4). For many observers, the rise in anti-Asian bias is a result of Trump's repeated reference to the coronavirus as the "Chinese virus,” the "Wuhan virus,” and "kung flu”—blatantly disregarding the World Health Organization's advice of not attaching locations or ethnicity to disease to avoid stigmatization. Words have consequences. Just 3 wk of "China virus" rhetoric in the media offset 13 prior years of declines in anti-Asian bias; Americans exposed to the rhetoric were more likely to perceive Asian Americans as foreign and un-American, with politically conservative Americans most affected by the rhetoric (5).

 

The only attempt to  qualify this claim is  , "many observers" without indicating who these "observers " are and what info they "observed". 

Unless you have hard numbers with actual criminal court cases, the "Trump says mean things" is just an observation. As indicated by your above post. 

Your sentence " your dual standards for this critical commentary" makes no sense there for it is not noted. 

The fact you try to disparage me by my credentials is not odd but expected. 

This isn't a criminal case this is establishment of correlation between two things....xenophobic speech and increase in violence. The link is pretty clear for anyone open minded enough to look at the available evidence and consider that words have consequences, especially when coming from people or places that people trust.  

The reference to "observers" was simply discussion of the findings... what the non-Asian respondents of the Project Implicit "Asian Implicit Association Test" told them. The quote you highlighted cited the source and explanation for that language. 

Yes, we all have witnessed or heard or read about many things that Trump has said that are completely inappropriate. Sociologists will continue to study such things even if folks dismiss their reporting.  

My comment that you quoted was not directed to or at you... that means that I didn't disparage anything of yours. 

MaybeeRN said:

Heavy blue states and blue cities in NY and California have seen upticks in anti-Asian violence almost all that I've seen on the news (videos) are black perpetrators.  I guess you're going to say that's the black face of white nationalism?  None of your links give any credence to Trump causing anything.

I suppose your anecdotal opinion rebuttal is worth something...

Specializes in Hospice.
subee said:

Just a reminder that some people here may not realize that the Cato Institutue is a conservative think tank.   Not a MAGA non-think tank but the real tank with the true conservative thinkers.

Minor derail: didn't the ACA derive, in part, from Cato Institute proposals?

subee said:

Just a reminder that some people here may not realize that the Cato Institutue is a conservative think tank.   Not a MAGA non-think tank but the real tank with the true conservative thinkers.

That's what happens when you listen to the grifters at CDC and NIH.  You know the ones that said wearing a mask makes a difference and if you get the shot you won't get Covid.  The ones that said kids needs ti be out of school and they should be required to take an unproven vaccine.  

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
heron said:

Minor derail: didn't the ACA derive, in part, from Cato Institute proposals?

Obama attributed it to the Heritage Foundation.  It was the model for Romney's state health plan when he was governor. 

Specializes in Hospice.
toomuchbaloney said:

Obama attributed it to the Heritage Foundation.  It was the model for Romney's state health plan when he was governor. 

Ahh - now I remember. Thanks!

Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.

It was the the prior U.S. President who deliberately used the verbage "China virus" to stir animosity against China and chinese immigrants, often with a snear seen during TV coverage  of Covid briefings.  Similar to his slurs this month against his former Transportation Secretary, Elaine Chao.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
MaybeeRN said:

That's what happens when you listen to the grifters at CDC and NIH.  You know the ones that said wearing a mask makes a difference and if you get the shot you won't get Covid.  The ones that said kids needs ti be out of school and they should be required to take an unproven vaccine.  

What a crazy post for a health professional to publish.  You wouldn't be trolling us, would you?  

 

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