I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
So you believe that individuals cannot have racist beliefs or feelings if they are POC?
Again, I'm not certain that you understand what xenophobia involves. Yes, Trump was very specific about calling it the China virus and his fans still believe that to be a reasonable way to refer to the virus. They seem unable to correlate the increased violence with the rhetoric.
Some seem to believe that POC cannot be racist because of power. Or the lack there of to do harm. Which is racist and ridiculous in itself. I believe anyone can be racist.
So because xenophobic/racist people attack Asian Americans because Trump called it the China Virus? Okay.
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MaybeeRN said:
Trump left a working virus, great economic numbers and then you have more Covid deaths on Biden's watch and inflation that has people choosing between food and medicine.
Tell me that you don't know much about exponential viral growth without using those words... oh wait... you just did that. It makes sense, given your preferred media that you are clueless as to how badly Trump and his team botched the US pandemic response. Right wing media like Fox is known for creating a narrative to entertain their audience... not inform them. The 2020 election and the pandemic are examples of that misinformation.
Why has the United States handled this pandemic so badly? We have failed at almost every step. We had ample warning, but when the disease first arrived, we were incapable of testing effectively and couldn't provide even the most basic personal protective equipment to health care workers and the general public. And we continue to be way behind the curve in testing. While the absolute numbers of tests have increased substantially, the more useful metric is the number of tests performed per infected person, a rate that puts us far down the international list, below such places as Kazakhstan, Zimbabwe, and Ethiopia, countries that cannot boast the biomedical infrastructure or the manufacturing capacity that we have.2 Moreover, a lack of emphasis on developing capacity has meant that U.S. test results are often long delayed, rendering the results useless for disease control.
Although we tend to focus on technology, most of the interventions that have large effects are not complicated. The United States instituted quarantine and isolation measures late and inconsistently, often without any effort to enforce them, after the disease had spread substantially in many communities. Our rules on social distancing have in many places been lackadaisical at best, with loosening of restrictions long before adequate disease control had been achieved. And in much of the country, people simply don't wear masks, largely because our leaders have stated outright that masks are political tools rather than effective infection control measures. The government has appropriately invested heavily in vaccine development, but its rhetoric has politicized the development process and led to growing public distrust.
The United States came into this crisis with enormous advantages. Along with tremendous manufacturing capacity, we have a biomedical research system that is the envy of the world. We have enormous expertise in public health, health policy, and basic biology and have consistently been able to turn that expertise into new therapies and preventive measures. And much of that national expertise resides in government institutions. Yet our leaders have largely chosen to ignore and even denigrate experts.
The response of our nation's leaders has been consistently inadequate. The federal government has largely abandoned disease control to the states. Governors have varied in their responses, not so much by party as by competence. But whatever their competence, governors do not have the tools that Washington controls. Instead of using those tools, the federal government has undermined them. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which was the world's leading disease response organization, has been eviscerated and has suffered dramatic testing and policy failures. The National Institutes of Health have played a key role in vaccine development but have been excluded from much crucial government decision making. And the Food and Drug Administration has been shamefully politicized,3 appearing to respond to pressure from the administration rather than scientific evidence. Our current leaders have undercut trust in science and in government,4 causing damage that will certainly outlast them. Instead of relying on expertise, the administration has turned to uninformed "opinion leaders" and charlatans who obscure the truth and facilitate the promulgation of outright lies.
No, the disappointing US response to covid-19 has been because of a failure of policy and leadership, not healthcare, and largely owing to two fateful policy decisions.
The federal government as back-up
After first casting himself as a wartime president, in April President Trump made a fundamental policy shift that has shaped the US response to the pandemic ever since. He announced that states would have primary responsibility for containing the virus, with the federal government in a "back-up" role.3
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In the absence of a centralised federal response, this fragmentation resulted in extreme variation in our national response to covid-19 by and within states. For example, at the time of writing, 33 states had instituted mandatory mask orders, while other states imposed softer orders or none at all.5
This variation had significant public health consequences. Some states opened up their economies earlier than others—and, in general, the states that opened up their economies earlier suffered larger outbreaks.6
This led directly to the second fateful policy decision shaping the US response: the Trump administration's decision to push for an opening up of the economy before the virus was contained—and the fracturing of the country along partisan lines in response.
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Roitrn said:
Some seem to believe that POC cannot be racist because of power. Or the lack there of to do harm. Which is racist and ridiculous in itself. I believe anyone can be racist.
So because xenophobic/racist people attack Asian Americans because Trump called it the China Virus? Okay.
Are you trying to make a back handed point? The attempt really makes your message appear confused. Just say what you mean.
Yes. Trump used that language and xenophobic attacks on Asians increased in this country as a result. That was an expected outcome of that unacceptable language and attitude from a sitting president.
Tell me that you don't know much about exponential viral growth without using those words... oh wait... you just did that. It makes sense, given your preferred media that you are clueless as to how badly Trump and his team botched the US pandemic response. Right wing media like Fox is known for creating a narrative to entertain their audience... not inform them. The 2020 election and the pandemic are examples of that misinformation.
Are you trying to make a back handed point? The attempt really makes your message appear confused. Just say what you mean.
Yes. Trump used that language and xenophobic attacks on Asians increased in this country as a result. That was an expected outcome of that unacceptable language and attitude from a sitting president.
Back handed point? Like including Trump in a discussion about COVID lab leak being called a conspiracy? When it has nothing g to do with him directly? A way to deflect from the intended point?
Giving a repetitive long winded rant to satisfy your Trump itch?
So you have some evidence that these people committed a hate crime against Asians because Trump called it the China virus? Have the court transcripts? Or just some correlated data loosely tied to causation?
Tell me that you don't know much about exponential viral growth without using those words... oh wait... you just did that. It makes sense, given your preferred media that you are clueless as to how badly Trump and his team botched the US pandemic response. Right wing media like Fox is known for creating a narrative to entertain their audience... not inform them. The 2020 election and the pandemic are examples of that misinformation.
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Roitrn said:
Back handed point? Like including Trump in a discussion about COVID lab leak being called a conspiracy? When it has nothing g to do with him directly? A way to deflect from the intended point?
Giving a repetitive long winded rant to satisfy your Trump itch?
So you have some evidence that these people committed a hate crime against Asians because Trump called it the China virus? Have the court transcripts? Or just some correlated data loosely tied to causation?
I did say what I mean. Did you not understand it?
But the toxic conspiracy nonsense is directly related to Trump using that language from his presidential pedestal. He used the language and the violent interactions increased.
Yeah, I shared some discussion of that correlation... meanwhile, you prefer to ignore that correlation and pretend that Trump doesn't fan xenophobic tendencies whenever he feels that might benefit him in some way. That makes you appear narrow minded and unable to consider the negative implications of Trump's unprecedented and unpresidential speech during the first year of the pandemic.
No, your comments are sometimes worded in a way that makes your meaning unclear.
Yeah... the Spanish flu originated on a US military base in Kansas so that was another example of a mislabeled virus. Maybe you didn't know that. Or you haven't noticed that the scientific community is moving away from nomenclature that identified regions or countries since some of the regional references inspire xenophobic assaults and feelings in some people.... especially when elevated by celebrities or pundits or propagandists.
It's so odd that a self identified health professional is unable to acknowledge the xenophobic violence that rose when Trump started calling covid the China virus. It's pretty well documented in the professional journals and at least one citation has been provided.
I guess you didn't read that article very closely...
Where is all this violence from the right against Asians tied the someone calling Covid the kung flu or Chinese virus? Where is all this evidence? Post the links.
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Roitrn said:
So you know exactly what media this member consumes? Or are you making generalizations of what you think a conservative is? Again?
The member has shared citations previously and some of her comments have been lifted nearly word for word from right wing messaging in the past. You are new here and don't know what you don't know but your double standards for this kind of critical commentary is noted.
So you believe that individuals cannot have racist beliefs or feelings if they are POC?
Again, I'm not certain that you understand what xenophobia involves. Yes, Trump was very specific about calling it the China virus and his fans still believe that to be a reasonable way to refer to the virus. They seem unable to correlate the increased violence with the rhetoric.
Post the links to all this violence against Asians because of coronavirus. Yep there's a lot of violence against Asians from black perps in blue states but that ain't tied to Covid. So post all the violence you keep espousing.
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MaybeeRN said:
Where is all this violence from the right against Asians tied the someone calling Covid the kung flu or Chinese virus? Where is all this evidence? Post the links.
Your isolation from recent history is almost comical. Even though you clearly haven't read or been influenced by the other citations which discuss this correlation, I'll post some more. Just the volume of citations available is testimony to how intentional ongoing ignorance of the connection really is. Why are you unaware?
The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has documented a 77 percent increase from 2019 to 2020 in hate crimes against Asian people living in the US. And during the period from March 2020 to June 2021 more than 9,000 anti-Asian hate incidents were self-reported to the advocacy group Stop AAPI Hate. Yet, such crime statistics are likely vastly underreported. Meanwhile, profound research gaps hinder broader understanding about violence and racism affecting the Asian American community.
One in 6 Asian American adults has been a victim of a hate crime in 2021, up from 1 in 8 in 2020. By the first 3 mo of 2022, the figure had already reached 1 in twelve (3). In California, home to 6 million Asian Americans, Native Hawaiians, and Pacific Islanders, more than 1 in 4 has either experienced or witnessed an anti-Asian hate incident (4). For many observers, the rise in anti-Asian bias is a result of Trump's repeated reference to the coronavirus as the "Chinese virus,” the "Wuhan virus,” and "kung flu”—blatantly disregarding the World Health Organization's advice of not attaching locations or ethnicity to disease to avoid stigmatization. Words have consequences. Just 3 wk of "China virus" rhetoric in the media offset 13 prior years of declines in anti-Asian bias; Americans exposed to the rhetoric were more likely to perceive Asian Americans as foreign and un-American, with politically conservative Americans most affected by the rhetoric (5).
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The president's early rhetoric undoubtedly did not serve to protect the Asian community. Before Trump made these remarks in mid-March, racist acts and harassment targeting Asian Americans had already surged; they continued to increase through March and April following his statements (Haynes, 2020). On the coattails of President Trump's remarks, other political officials have also used derogatory language to blame the Chinese for causing COVID-19. For example, Senator John Cornyn (R-TX) said in a press conference on March 18th that China was to "blame" for the spread of COVID-19 because they are a "culture where people eat bats and snakes and dogs and things like that" (Wu, 2020). On March 23rd, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) issued a warning that white supremacists may use the crisis to justify harm or violence against Asian Americans (Mallin & Margolin, 220). Also in late March, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) anticipated that there would be a surge in anti-Asian hate crime during the pandemic and therefore alerted law enforcement agencies to be on heightened alert for bias-motivated incidents (Mallin & Margolin, 2020).
Your isolation from recent history is almost comical. Even though you clearly haven't read or been influenced by the other citations which discuss this correlation, I'll post some more. Just the volume of citations available is testimony to how intentional ongoing ignorance of the connection really is. Why are you unaware?
Do you think that only liberals live in "blue states" or what is your point?
Yup. Loosely complied data showing correlation but not causation. Or no evidence to directly link what you claim.
4). For many observers, the rise in anti-Asian bias is a result of Trump's repeated reference to the coronavirus as the "Chinese virus,” the "Wuhan virus,” and "kung flu”—blatantly disregarding the World Health Organization's advice of not attaching locations or ethnicity to disease to avoid stigmatization. Words have consequences. Just 3 wk of "China virus" rhetoric in the media offset 13 prior years of declines in anti-Asian bias; Americans exposed to the rhetoric were more likely to perceive Asian Americans as foreign and un-American, with politically conservative Americans most affected by the rhetoric (5).
The only attempt to qualify this claim is , "many observers" without indicating who these "observers " are and what info they "observed".
Unless you have hard numbers with actual criminal court cases, the "Trump says mean things" is just an observation. As indicated by your above post.
toomuchbaloney said:
The member has shared citations previously and some of her comments have been lifted nearly word for word from right wing messaging in the past. You are new here and don't know what you don't know but your double standards for this kind of critical commentary is noted.
Your sentence " your dual standards for this critical commentary" makes no sense there for it is not noted.
The fact you try to disparage me by my credentials is not odd but expected.
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Some seem to believe that POC cannot be racist because of power. Or the lack there of to do harm. Which is racist and ridiculous in itself. I believe anyone can be racist.
So because xenophobic/racist people attack Asian Americans because Trump called it the China Virus? Okay.