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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news.  I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.

https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6

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According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.

Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.

The arrested the guy the next day. 

What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there. 

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Roitrn said:

Oh right! POC can be xenophobic but not racist..... 

It's hard to keep up with all the "phobias" and the ridiculous convoluted rules. 

China. It came from China. COVID came from China. Does that explain it well enough for you? 

"Covid came from China" may - or may not - be a statement of an irrelevant fact. Using that possibility as an excuse to attack anyone who looks Asian is xenophobic. I'll consider using "China virus" when you start referring to HIV as "the American virus".

( Covid probably came from bats, which may or may not have contracted it in China.) 

You're as ill-informed as ever - back to the ignore list. Are you liberated yet?

Roitrn said:

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China. It came from China. COVID came from China. Does that explain it well enough for you?

Got it.  But how does it matter where it came from when you refer to it?  Rather than calling it the China virus or the virus that came from China, why not just call it COVID?

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chare said:

Got it.  But how does it matter where it came from when you refer to it?  Rather than calling it the China virus or the virus that came from China, why not just call it COVID?

Exactly my point - thank you.

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heron said:

"Covid came from China" may - or may not - be a statement of an irrelevant fact. Using that possibility as an excuse to attack anyone who looks Asian is xenophobic. I'll consider using "China virus" when you start referring to HIV as "the American virus".

( Covid probably came from bats, which may or may not have contracted it in China.) 

You're as ill-informed as ever - back to the ignore list. Are you liberated yet?

No. You keep taking me off your list. So I'm not liberated.  

"Ill-informed"?  Coming from a person who puts people on ignore list(makes promises) because they have a different opinion.  

I wasn't aware that HIV originated in America. 

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chare said:

Got it.  But how does it matter where it came from when you refer to it?  Rather than calling it the China virus or the virus that came from China, why not just call it COVID?

I usually do call it COVID. However noting it came from China in a way other than attacking a person, it's not xenophobic.  

There's a difference between that. This is what I was communicating.  

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Roitrn said:

Yep. The Trump administration was a mess when it comes to pandemic management, investigations, mitigation, or communication. Trump's toxic conspiratorial thinking definitely poisoned the entire topic.  Trump's overt politicization of our scientific recommendations was a disaster that confused millions of Americans. Did you read this article in 2021?

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Roitrn said:

I usually do call it COVID. However noting it came from China in a way other than attacking a person, it's not xenophobic.  

There's a difference between that. This is what I was communicating.  

Maybe you aren't clear about what you are communicating when you choose to refer to covid as a China virus or similar. 

https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/calling-covid-19-the-wuhan-virus-or-china-virus-is-inaccurate-and-xenophobic/

Words matter, language matters and there's evidence that connects language with bad behavior. It's important that health professionals understand the cultural importance of our casual words. 

toomuchbaloney said:

That's good. When I worked as a military contractor, all of the military facilities that I visited in Alaska were inundated with Fox programming on their public televisions, including in the command suites. It was surprising to see so much Fox but it was alarming to see OAN. 

Maybe that is what the troops wanted to watch?  Unlike every airport in the country that was tuned to CNN.

toomuchbaloney said:

Maybe you aren't clear about what you are communicating when you choose to refer to covid as a China virus or similar. 

https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/calling-covid-19-the-wuhan-virus-or-china-virus-is-inaccurate-and-xenophobic/

Words matter, language matters and there's evidence that connects language with bad behavior. It's important that health professionals understand the cultural importance of our casual words. 

Spanish flu,   West Nike virus.  You have a problem with those?  The Chinese apologists are out in force today.

toomuchbaloney said:

Yep. The Trump administration was a mess when it comes to pandemic management, investigations, mitigation, or communication. Trump's toxic conspiratorial thinking definitely poisoned the entire topic.  Trump's overt politicization of our scientific recommendations was a disaster that confused millions of Americans. Did you read this article in 2021?

Trump left a working virus, great economic numbers and then you have more Covid deaths on Biden's watch and inflation that has people choosing between food and medicine.

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Roitrn said:

Oh right! POC can be xenophobic but not racist..... 

It's hard to keep up with all the "phobias" and the ridiculous convoluted rules. 

China. It came from China. COVID came from China. Does that explain it well enough for you? 

So you believe that individuals cannot have racist beliefs or feelings if they are POC? 

Again, I'm not certain that you understand what xenophobia involves.  Yes, Trump was very specific about calling it the China virus and his fans still believe that to be a reasonable way to refer to the virus. They seem unable to correlate the increased violence with the rhetoric.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

Yep. The Trump administration was a mess when it comes to pandemic management, investigations, mitigation, or communication. Trump's toxic conspiratorial thinking definitely poisoned the entire topic.  Trump's overt politicization of our scientific recommendations was a disaster that confused millions of Americans. Did you read this article in 2021?

It wasn't about Trump. It was about calling the lab leak a conspiracy. Or suggesting that no called it a conspiracy.  

Glad you were able to get in your Trump deflection. 

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MaybeeRN said:

Maybe that is what the troops wanted to watch?  Unlike every airport in the country that was tuned to CNN.

Spanish flu,   West Nike virus.  You have a problem with those?  The Chinese apologists are out in force today.

Yeah... the Spanish flu originated on a US military base in Kansas so that was another example of a mislabeled virus. Maybe you didn't know that.   Or you haven't noticed that the scientific community is moving away from nomenclature that identified regions or countries since some of the regional references inspire xenophobic assaults and feelings in some people.... especially when elevated by celebrities or pundits or propagandists. 

It's so odd that a self identified health professional is unable to acknowledge the xenophobic violence that rose when Trump started calling covid the China virus. It's pretty well documented in the professional journals and at least one citation has been provided. 

Roitrn said:

It wasn't about Trump. It was about calling the lab leak a conspiracy. Or suggesting that no called it a conspiracy.  

Glad you were able to get in your Trump deflection. 

I guess you didn't read that article very closely...

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