I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
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1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:
You think I am projecting, good one!
You just can’t seem to help yourself from implying/interpreting what you think I mean by my words (and calling names) when you could just ask if you don’t understand something. So for the record I will clarify and explain it to you. Simply dropping off a newborn at a safe haven means dropping off with no questions asked of the mother, no paperwork, no judgement, no nothing. Of course this doesn’t mean there isn’t potential “emotional trauma associated” with this decision. There is also potential “emotional trauma associated” with having an abortion (ie killing your baby). Both have potential short term and long term consequences. It would be best for women to have all the facts/information necessary to make an informed decision. It doesn’t seem that that is the case in many circumstances, esp when minor girls can get an abortions even without parental consent. It would be my hope to make sure all women are able to speak to someone who is unbiased in the outcome of the decision. I don’t think they are getting this at abortion clinics who obviously are making money on abortions.
You don't think they are getting a variety of information but you offer exactly nothing to support your feelings about the information offered to pregnant women who have sought out care at an "abortion clinic".
Please tell us where minor girls have been getting abortions in alarming numbers without parental consent.
Meanwhile, in your non-judgmental style you have asserted that the emotional consequences to choosing abortion could be dire... apparently because the women are made to feel guilty about killing their "baby" in their society, by non-judgmental people using emotional but imprecise language. Where is the unbiased evidence of these negative emotional consequences to having an abortion? We don't have millions of women with have PTSD from 1st trimester abortions acting out in society. They aren't a big subgroup in therapy. Show me some evidence to support your claims, feelings and thinking.
Aviation is one of the biggest contributors to climate change. Maybe I'm a hypocrite because I like to travel and the collective amount that people that fly is pretty huge.
Of course I know that contraceptives are not 100 percent and I did not say they were, and they most definitely are easily available!
IMO, simply dropping off a baby at a safe haven is much more humane than killing it! (And I never said treat it like laundry).
A baby is a baby no matter what are science calls it, still a baby.
I am glad the women you know are at peace with their decision, that doesn’t mean that all girls/women are or will be.
Nobody’s solution is to force a teen or anyone else to become a mother. There are other alternatives as I pointed out.
Shame on you for accusing me of making a flippant/callous remark based on your perception! I said I believe the number is mimiscule, meaning in context of how many abortions are performed. I never said nor implied that I have no compassion for these women or that I don’t understand their struggles!
(this is exactly why I do not like this forum bc many of you do not know how to have a decent conversation without putting words in someone’s mouth and then getting in their face about it).
IMO, it is compassionate to care about the unborn as well as the mother!!
But since I guess y’all like having an echo chamber more than having a real discussion carry on!!
Didn't you claim you didn't like drama of politics and yet stir the pot and cause drama. Good job. LOL.
cue blaming others and leaving in a huff...1...2....3......
Perhaps the Bidens were worried about rumors of election fraud concerning mail-in ballots. I thought it was traditional for politicians, including Presidents, to travel to their home states to vote.
I'm not saying it's not a valid concern, but really on a scale of 1 to 10 to me it's a 1. It just goes to show you how little they have when they resort to a nitpick like this. I think it's called "Brandon Derangement Syndrome".
It's good news that SSI recipients are getting a raise but Wall Street had a problem with August's numbers.
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Stocks fell sharply on Tuesday after a key August inflation report came in hotter than expected, hurting investor optimism for cooling prices and a less aggressive Federal Reserve.
A baby is a baby no matter what are science calls it, still a baby.
(this is exactly why I do not like this forum bc many of you do not know how to have a decent conversation without putting words in someone’s mouth and then getting in their face about it).
Your statement that " a baby is a baby" has no factual basis. At least one major religion believes that life starts when the child draws its first breath. You don't approve of abortion, which is fine. Don't have one.
In colonial times, a fetus was not thought to be alive until quickening, when movement is felt. Up until then, ending a pregnancy was legal and moral.
I think you do not like this forum because people will challenge your statements. And to me, some of your statements such as simply drop off a baby seem rather heartless.
Didn't you claim you didn't like drama of politics and yet stir the pot and cause drama. Good job. LOL.
cue blaming others and leaving in a huff...1...2....3......
I am not sure how stating my opinion and/or defending myself from the name calling is stirring the pot or causing drama!
I did not leave in a huff LOL, I do not obviously have the same amount of time to continuously post like some of you but that doesn’t mean I leave in a huff (just leave to go have a life). Your assumption is a little disappointing but not surprising.
Your statement that " a baby is a baby" has no factual basis. At least one major religion believes that life starts when the child draws its first breath. You don't approve of abortion, which is fine. Don't have one.
In colonial times, a fetus was not thought to be alive until quickening, when movement is felt. Up until then, ending a pregnancy was legal and moral.
I think you do not like this forum because people will challenge your statements. And to me, some of your statements such as simply drop off a baby seem rather heartless.
I have no problem having a real discussion and being challenged but that is not what happens here now is it! It is the name calling etc that is the problem. Think what u will about my statements but as you can see I already explained.
A baby in the uterus is still a baby no matter what one wants to call it. Just because people have changed the terminology and/or decided when and went not abortion could be legal does not change the fact that it is in fact a baby!
The data is available to you on rape and pregnancy. No need to wonder... at least in terms of reported rape.
What's perhaps more interesting is the number of women (and girls apparently) who are going to be forced, by conservative government, to carry pregnancies to term. Imagine that.
TMB - you left out incest.
I am still waiting to hear just how a 12 year-old child is supposed to say no to a grown man and make it stick.
The forced pregnancy crowd has a vested interest in pretending that sexual predation, like racism and climate change, doesn’t exist.
You just can’t seem to help yourself from implying/interpreting what you think I mean by my words (and calling names) when you could just ask if you don’t understand something. So for the record I will clarify and explain it to you. Simply dropping off a newborn at a safe haven means dropping off with no questions asked of the mother, no paperwork, no judgement, no nothing. Of course this doesn’t mean there isn’t potential “emotional trauma associated” with this decision. There is also potential “emotional trauma associated” with having an abortion (ie killing your baby). Both have potential short term and long term consequences. It would be best for women to have all the facts/information necessary to make an informed decision. It doesn’t seem that that is the case in many circumstances, esp when minor girls can get an abortions even without parental consent. It would be my hope to make sure all women are able to speak to someone who is unbiased in the outcome of the decision. I don’t think they are getting this at abortion clinics who obviously are making money on abortions.
But nowhere near as much money as the far right radical preachers and politicians are making.
Speaking of facts and information … one name: Crisis Pregnancy Centers.
Then there are the idjits who insist that ectopic pregnancies can be re-implanted, that abortions cause breast cancer and rape-induced pregnancies are rare because nature “has a way of taking care of such things”.
In my opinion, the radical religious right is the single most dangerous source of sex and reproductive health misinformation in active operation today.
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1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:
I have no problem having a real discussion and being challenged but that is not what happens here now is it! It is the name calling etc that is the problem. Think what u will about my statements but as you can see I already explained.
A baby in the uterus is still a baby no matter what one wants to call it. Just because people have changed the terminology and/or decided when and went not abortion could be legal does not change the fact that it is in fact a baby!
Bold mine.
Give me an example of the name calling that is troubling you in this discussion. Please don't dodge this request for clarification or support. What name calling?
No one changed the terminology. The terminology is the same as it was when I went to nursing school decades ago. Use of the term "baby" to describe a nonviable fetus is an intentional use of an incorrect term designed to elicit an emotional response in discussions about abortion. It's a type of manipulative communication.
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You don't think they are getting a variety of information but you offer exactly nothing to support your feelings about the information offered to pregnant women who have sought out care at an "abortion clinic".
Please tell us where minor girls have been getting abortions in alarming numbers without parental consent.
Meanwhile, in your non-judgmental style you have asserted that the emotional consequences to choosing abortion could be dire... apparently because the women are made to feel guilty about killing their "baby" in their society, by non-judgmental people using emotional but imprecise language. Where is the unbiased evidence of these negative emotional consequences to having an abortion? We don't have millions of women with have PTSD from 1st trimester abortions acting out in society. They aren't a big subgroup in therapy. Show me some evidence to support your claims, feelings and thinking.