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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news.  I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.

https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6

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According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.

Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.

The arrested the guy the next day. 

What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there. 

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6 hours ago, Tweety said:

There's only speculation that it's about the Met Gala tickets.  But she should know rules about accepting gifts.  Getting free tickets is against the rules apparently.  If she's wrong, she's wrong.  And her dress was ugly.

Sort of related, we got an email saying we are only allowed to have pot lucks around the holidays.  We are not allowed to have someone give us any gifts, food, or pay for a party.   Remember back in the day when we would get pens from reps?  Can't do that anymore either.

She accepted 2 Met tickets.  Her dress was ugly.  Does this really rise to the level of a congressional investigation (If that is, indeed, the indiscretion).  Her own party should give her a slap on the wrist.  Just everyday ho-hum stupid.

 

 

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8 hours ago, chare said:

Objecting to the COVID vaccination doesn't necessarily indicate lack of sanity or intelligence, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

While this was obviously pushed by the Republicans, if the Democrats hadn't agreed, however reluctantly it might have been, it would not have passed.

As an aside, the military has struggled to meet its recruiting goals with the Marine Corps being the only branch to meet them.  The Navy recently began a trial accepting recruits that previously would not have qualified.  And, over the past year both the Army and Navy had offered enlistment bonuses of $30,000 - $50,000 depending on immediate  or near immediate shipping to recruit training.

To refuse a military career because you won't take a Covid vaccine is not sane when you have to take all these others:

Army Shots - Basic Training Vaccinations List - USArmyBasic

https://usarmybasic.com/about-the-army/army-shots

31 rows · Officer candidates, ROTC cadets, and other Reserve Components on initial active duty …

Estimated Reading Time: 4 mins

VACCINATION AGENTREMARKS

Influenza (Flu Shot)Recruits receive this shot in basic only ...

MeaslesMeasles Mumps and rubella (MMR) are ...

MeningococcalQuadrivalent meningococcal vaccine ...

MumpsMeasles Mumps and rubella (MMR) are ...

See all 31 rows on usarmybasic.com

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28 minutes ago, subee said:

She accepted 2 Met tickets.  Her dress was ugly.  Does this really rise to the level of a congressional investigation (If that is, indeed, the indiscretion).  Her own party should give her a slap on the wrist.  Just everyday ho-hum stupid.

If something came to their attention, they are obligated to investigate it rather than sweep it under the rug.

It's more of a committee investigation rather than a full scale congressional investigation.  She hasn't made many friends in congress but it will probably be just a slap on the wrist if all it involves is those free tickets.  Like I said, a rule is a rule.

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47 minutes ago, subee said:

To refuse a military career because you won't take a Covid vaccine is not sane when you have to take all these others:

I think the fear of the covid vaccine is that it's not proven like most other vaccines.  When was the last time we had a new vaccine that we were asked to take?  That and 18 year olds think they are invincible so why take it?  They have a point since their demographic wasn't affected much by covid.  But there's hundreds if not thousands  of posts here about the vaccine and no need to go into that.   

I wonder though is it really a large number of military that are refusing the vaccine?

edit:  To answer my own question.

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Singh said that 691 service members, Defense Department civilians and dependents have died from Covid.

The vast majority of active-duty service members are vaccinated — only about 2% have not gotten both doses of a vaccine — but ending the mandate would mean new recruits would not need to get vaccinated.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/ndaa-military-vaccine-mandate-soldiers-sailors-rejoin-military-rcna60391

On a side note, how about this drama queen saying mandates are a "politically targeted ploy at the expensive of American heroes" 

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Rep. Greg Murphy, R-N.C., a longtime opponent of the vaccination mandate, said, “While this repeal will bring relief to many in our U.S. Armed Forces, we must go further to re-enlist those who were discharged for not taking the vaccine and hold the Biden administration accountable for this damaging, politically targeted ploy at the expense of America’s heroes.”

 

2 hours ago, subee said:

Her own party should give her a slap on the wrist.  Just everyday ho-hum stupid.

They should, but they haven't. 

On 12/6/2022 at 11:19 AM, toomuchbaloney said:

Unfathomable ?

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8 hours ago, Beerman said:

They should, but they haven't. 

You think they should now?

I would think think they should wait until the committee presents their findings of their investigation.   Who knows, they may clear of any wrong doing.

 

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12 hours ago, Beerman said:

They should, but they haven't. 

Is it standard practice for the political parties to reprimand members who are under investigation for ethics violations? I wonder since House republicans tried to weaken and take control of the independent office of Congressional ethics in 2017. At that time republicans complained that members shouldn't be dragged in the media because of anonymous complaints. 

https://www.govtrack.us/misconduct

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Thousands of Teens Are Being Pushed Into Military’s Junior R.O.T.C. https://nyti.ms/3BpW9oo

This was an interesting read this morning. I'm not surprised that parents are concerned about mandatory attendance... that does smack of indoctrination on some level. 

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Several of the cadets spoke about how instructors had helped them mature into better people and pressed them to get better grades in all of their classes. Half of the students gathered on a recent morning indicated that they were considering a future in the military.

Parents, Dr. Ford said, have welcomed the class with little objection.

But in some cases, parents who discovered that their children had been enrolled in military-sponsored training have struggled to pull them out of the classes.

Mr. Mejia, whose daughter was put against her will into a class in Fort Myers, met with a series of school officials while trying to get his daughter out. He said he supported the military — his sister is in the Navy — but was outraged that his daughter was being forced into the program.

The school let his daughter out of the class, he said, only after he complained that an instructor had grabbed her by the shoulders during an exercise, an incident school officials did not dispute when they noted in a response to The Times that they had ultimately allowed the girl to drop the class.

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In Detroit, where Ms. Thomas said she had been forced to take the class, the district said in a statement that administrators did not require students to take J.R.O.T.C. although they “do encourage students in ninth grade to take the course to spark their interest.” But two recent students at Pershing, in addition to Ms. Thomas, said in interviews that they had been required to take the class. District data showed that 90 percent of freshmen were enrolled in J.R.O.T.C. during the 2021-22 school year.

 

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14 hours ago, Tweety said:

I think the fear of the covid vaccine is that it's not proven like most other vaccines.  When was the last time we had a new vaccine that we were asked to take?  That and 18 year olds think they are invincible so why take it?  They have a point since their demographic wasn't affected much by covid.  But there's hundreds if not thousands  of posts here about the vaccine and no need to go into that.   

I wonder though is it really a large number of military that are refusing the vaccine?

edit:  To answer my own question.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/ndaa-military-vaccine-mandate-soldiers-sailors-rejoin-military-rcna60391

On a side note, how about this drama queen saying mandates are a "politically targeted ploy at the expensive of American heroes" 

 

I bet the anthrax vaccine was wildly more unknown when it was added to the list of required vaccine.  It's unreasonable to not require a Covid vaccine when the possibility of contagion is much more highly likely than with anthrax.  It's unreasonable to refuse a Covid vaccine given billions of time.  Covid is here to stay and it will be variable in damage.  We are in a good place now but that may not always be the case. 

40 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Is it standard practice for the political parties to reprimand members who are under investigation for ethics violations? ...

As your quote here did not include @subee' quote, I presume your question should have been direct to this:

15 hours ago, subee said:

She accepted 2 Met tickets.  Her dress was ugly.  Does this really rise to the level of a congressional investigation (If that is, indeed, the indiscretion).  Her own party should give her a slap on the wrist.  Just everyday ho-hum stupid.

When @subee wrote this I read it that the House Ethics Committee, not the Democratic Party, should handle this now.  

24 minutes ago, subee said:

I bet the anthrax vaccine was wildly more unknown when it was added to the list of required vaccine. ...

The current anthrax vaccine, the anthrax vaccine adsorbed was licensed in 1970.  I know there was some controversy surrounding potential health concerns when Department of Defense initiated its mandatory vaccinations in 1998.

24 minutes ago, subee said:

... It's unreasonable to not require a Covid vaccine when the possibility of contagion is much more highly likely than with anthrax.  It's unreasonable to refuse a Covid vaccine given billions of time.  Covid is here to stay and it will be variable in damage.  We are in a good place now but that may not always be the case. 

Completely agree with this.

ETA: when someone enlists in the military, they shouldbrealize that they are going to "lose" some of their rights and be required to do things they might not have considered in civilian life.  As a retired Marine, I was gobsmacked at the exemptions that were granted.  I'm not against granting religious exemptions.  However, the burden of proof should be high and require long devotion to the beliefs.

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