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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6
QuoteAccording to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
5 minutes ago, nursej22 said:Several Republican house members refused to obey subpoenas from the Jan 6 committee. Were they disciplined by their party?
As I said, I've been led to believe that the Democrats are morally and ethically superior to the Republicans. Shouldn't then our expectations be higher?
Pelosi could conduct her own investigation, such as a meeting with AOC, and dish out her own discipline.
Save the trouble of a investigation, as Subee suggests.
17 minutes ago, chare said:Oh, I'm quite aware. Just asking a series of pointless questions in response to a simple post; as he frequently does.
I never expected a response, other than what I got.
The questions are pointless in your opinion... yet they did get the discussion around to the reality that despite how some might feel about AOC and this ethics investigation, reprimand or public wrist slapping is not common practice.
1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:The questions are pointless in your opinion... yet they did get the discussion around to the reality that despite how some might feel about AOC and this ethics investigation, reprimand or public wrist slapping is not common practice.
I never said or suggested that asking whether Ms. Cortez, or any other member of the House should be investigated and censured as appropriate by the House Ethics Committee. What I found "pointless," as well as ridiculous, was the question whether she should have been disciplined by her party.
1 hour ago, heron said:There’s pointless and then there’s inability - or unwillingness - to get the point.
I got the point. As I posted above, I never suggested that investigating Ms. Cortez, or any other member, was pointless.
But then again, as you wrote "there’s inability - or unwillingness - to get the point."
1 hour ago, nursej22 said:Several Republican house members refused to obey subpoenas from the Jan 6 committee. Were they disciplined by their party?
Haven't several indictments been issued for contempt of congress to those failing to respond to subpoenas? And, wasn't Mr. Bannon found guilty of the same?
1 hour ago, Beerman said:As I said, I've been led to believe that the Democrats are morally and ethically superior to the Republicans. Shouldn't then our expectations be higher?
Pelosi could conduct her own investigation, such as a meeting with AOC, and dish out her own discipline.
Save the trouble of a investigation, as Subee suggests.
What has inclined you to believe that Democrats are morally and ethically superior to Republicans? Is that belief based upon your interpretation of interactions here or is there some reporting or analysis that influences your belief?
That is an interesting observation to make in the aftermath of the close senate race in Georgia. Was that a contrast in the ethical or moral conduct of the two candidates? Trump certainly represented an ethically and morally challenged choice for leader of the Republican Party in 2016. Do you think that acceptance of Trump's unethical and corrupt behavior resulted in increased tolerance of unethical, immoral or corrupt behavior in others?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6987078/
QuoteTaking the US Presidential election as a framework, the present research shows that group members’ perceptions of leadership ethicality may affect behavioral attributions about their leaders, and the acceptability and endorsement of future unethical leadership. This supports the central argument of the present article, that when unethical ingroup leadership succeeds (wins) it encourages both transgression credit and a relaxation of that group’s ethical standards. This potential for leader-driven ethical slippage underlines how important it is that organizations should institute and maintain procedures to hold their leaders to account and to ensure that they uphold scrupulous ethical standards.
I do think that we should have high standards and expectations for people who have great power. No, I don't agree that the political parties should police themselves in terms of ethics. I prefer more independent oversight and investigation. "Dishing out punishment" should come after a more politically independent review of the facts.
12 minutes ago, chare said:I never said or suggested that asking whether Ms. Cortez, or any other member of the House should be investigated and censured as appropriate by the House Ethics Committee. What I found "pointless," as well as ridiculous, was the question whether she should have been disciplined by her party.
Oh well. Is that feeling of yours really important in this overall thread? Seems so...
7 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:[...]
Oh well. Is that feeling of yours really important in this overall thread? Seems so...
No more so than much of what you post is to you. As I wrote previously, this is just an example of what you frequently do; respond to an innocuous with repeated off-topic and/or challenging questions.
What say we call a truce on this and move on to other topics?
15 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:[...]
I do think that we should have high standards and expectations for people who have great power. No, I don't agree that the political parties should police themselves in terms of ethics. I prefer more independent oversight and investigation. "Dishing out punishment" should come after a more politically independent review of the facts.
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This I completely agree with.
6 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:Thousands of Teens Are Being Pushed Into Military’s Junior R.O.T.C. https://nyti.ms/3BpW9oo
This was an interesting read this morning. I'm not surprised that parents are concerned about mandatory attendance... that does smack of indoctrination on some level.
While I think indoctrination might be a strong term, your article did note that there is some benefit in participating in JROTC, I agree it should be voluntary.
Thanks for posting as I somehow missed this.
chare
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Oh, I'm quite aware. Just asking a series of pointless questions in response to a simple post; as he frequently does.
I never expected a response, other than what I got.