Do nursing instructors deliberately try to weed out students, by doing things like testing on material they haven't gone over yet, deliberately making it hard, picking on students?
My opinion was the "weeding out of students" was a myth.
The weeding out process seems to occur naturally, and the reason so many people don't make it through the program that started out, is that it's a tough, demanding, time consuming program, and whose eyes are on graduating top notch nurses who can pass NCLEX.
I do know teacher eyeball students they don't think are good clinicians and many of these cry "the teacher doesn't like me, and is out to get me". Or eyeball students that need a kick in the butt, or need a confidence boost and they feel picked on as well.
I don't think insturctors play games and try to weed students out.
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OH MY GOD! This has got to be the worst thing I have ever heard happening in a nursing school. That instructor assaulted you. -- I suspect that if you had hired legal counsel, you would have owned that school. -- My heart is sick for you - no one should ever be treated that way by anyone, not for any reason, not ever. It's just chilling!!
she was a real control freak. I was realllllllllllllllllllllly pizzed at her for this. Had I had more presence of mind, I would have made a bigger stink than I did. I guess I got my point across; the director did, too, apparently. This never, ever happened again, and I did receive a half-hearted apology from said instructor.
I will be a junior in the fall, and i certainly do think that the professors try to weed out the students who simply are just not puting in the time, and energy that needs to be put in to the program to suceed. There were 80 of us in the fall semester in sophmore year now theres 40. The NCLEX i'm sure is not an easy test, therefore the faculty are not going to make there tests easy. Theres no point of going through the whole program and not being able to pass the boards. Yes, we are in need of nurses, but were in need of good nurses who have put alot of time into their studies.
You mention about those who do not put enough time/energy into the program to succeed. This brings to mind a former classmate. This lady had 3 children & an elderly mother to care for. I felt for her in that respect. But, she would ALWAYS show up late to classes, but always managed to have enough time to stop & get a cup of coffee. She was always late with turning in papers, etc. & usually incorporated her children/mother into her reasoning for not having things done on time. This went on for the entire duration of the program. Most of my classmates came to resent her. One day before class, I asked her, "Did you get your paper done?" She told me that she did not get it done because she could not figure out how to create charts. She ended up getting an extension. I thought this was bull#$@! since we had ample time to get it done. She was also notorious for not pulling her weight with group projects. In my former college, she would have been O-U-T!!!
Do nursing instructors deliberately try to weed out students, by doing things like testing on material they haven't gone over yet, deliberately making it hard, picking on students?
My opinion was the "weeding out of students" was a myth.
The weeding out process seems to occur naturally, and the reason so many people don't make it through the program that started out, is that it's a tough, demanding, time consuming program, and whose eyes are on graduating top notch nurses who can pass NCLEX.
I do know teacher eyeball students they don't think are good clinicians and many of these cry "the teacher doesn't like me, and is out to get me". Or eyeball students that need a kick in the butt, or need a confidence boost and they feel picked on as well.
I don't think insturctors play games and try to weed students out.
I know there are bad insturctors and bad schools.
Due tp schedualing I took prep classes for a year while waiting for nursing classes to start. As far as weeding out I'm not sure that's the case. My A&P instructer Who saw fit to give me A's and B's did warn me that at times students that did verry well in his and other prep courses, seemed to flownder in the nursing program. His suggestion was Personallity clash with the instructers. After my experiance I would have to agree.
You mention about those who do not put enough time/energy into the program to succeed. This brings to mind a former classmate. This lady had 3 children & an elderly mother to care for. I felt for her in that respect. But, she would ALWAYS show up late to classes, but always managed to have enough time to stop & get a cup of coffee. She was always late with turning in papers, etc. & usually incorporated her children/mother into her reasoning for not having things done on time. This went on for the entire duration of the program. Most of my classmates came to resent her. One day before class, I asked her, "Did you get your paper done?" She told me that she did not get it done because she could not figure out how to create charts. She ended up getting an extension. I thought this was bull#$@! since we had ample time to get it done. She was also notorious for not pulling her weight with group projects. In my former college, she would have been O-U-T!!!
I agree with you on this! I am a mother of three and a wife and have one heck of an aggravating and needy extended family, yet if I had a paper due- it was turned in on time. I was never late for class- usually early, and I did not use my family as my excuse for not doing well. I did not study day and night because I could have made straight A's if I had but more important was to pass and raise my family at the same time. So I graduated with a B average- but my papers were turned in on time and I was on time for class. I have now graduated and have passed my NCLEX (I know, I've already said that in another posting... just happy about that) and I am going to be one heck of a good nurse and any time I have a chance I am going to be a good mentor to up and coming nursing students. I am using my bad experience with my professor to guide me NOT to be that way in my practice. Professors need to be tough on you but they do not have to be lunatics and try to drive you to be the same. Okay- got off on a tangent... you get my point
Do nursing instructors deliberately try to weed out students, by doing things like testing on material they haven't gone over yet, deliberately making it hard, picking on students?
My opinion was the "weeding out of students" was a myth.
The weeding out process seems to occur naturally, and the reason so many people don't make it through the program that started out, is that it's a tough, demanding, time consuming program, and whose eyes are on graduating top notch nurses who can pass NCLEX.
I do know teacher eyeball students they don't think are good clinicians and many of these cry "the teacher doesn't like me, and is out to get me". Or eyeball students that need a kick in the butt, or need a confidence boost and they feel picked on as well.
I don't think insturctors play games and try to weed students out.
I know there are bad insturctors and bad schools.
Well it is good to know that weeding out students is a myth, I have heard such things myself but,of course you do not want to believe it. Yet it can make you a little nervesous. And you are right about people just automatically falling off by themselves because I can see that in certain classes. I pray that I can weather the storms because I have worked my butt off wanting to be a nurse.
I was so happy to hear you say that you will always try to mentor to new students and up coming nurses, because for those of us who are on the road you have completed we often times feel like the good people leave us behind and just look at it as though because they went through crap then so should everyone else. I too will someday mentor to a upcoming nurse to help someone who may be on the verge of giving up. Thanks again! Nursing needs people like you. Good Luck.
Well it is good to know that weeding out students is a myth....
My post stated I had always thought it was a myth and I wanted clarification. If you read further there are anticdotes from several nurses who attended schools where it was proven not to be a myth. That there are instructors who are vindictive and weed out indiscriminately, with prejudice and unfairness.
I still am not willing to say this is what nursing schools are all about. I still believe in most schools, most students who don't make it, don't make it truly because they aren't good students, or other reasons, not because of their personality, looks, color or whatever.
Bud sadly it isn't a myth. It's the reality for too many people that they are picked on while being excellent students. Read on.
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If one person gets an extension, then all of them should get it.
yea but that is not how it was....
I remember, there was one girl that the instructors bent over backward for----the incredible acrobatics they performed to help her, amazing. She was a real parasite, always asking others for answers/help but having zero to offer. When she moved away to Germany (military move), they even offered to have her proctored to finish up there----we were in the 5th and final semester. Did she take advantage?
Nope -----stupid girl decided not to bother. Never graduated.
I only WISH they had gone so far for some other MORE deserving individuals than this one. We may have graduated a few other good people had they done so. It was so arbitrary and unfair.
Ah well, people here can believe me or not, I don't care anymore. :rotfl:
I needed a letter to get out of jury duty and the director of my program wrote "...is a student from Feb. 2005 and she may continue until Feb. 2006." MAY? I'm an A student. I've passed all my labs and clinicals. What's the deal with the "may?" Did I miss a memo? :uhoh21:
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I needed a letter to get out of jury duty and the director of my program wrote "...is a student from Feb. 2005 and she may continue until Feb. 2006." MAY? I'm an A student. I've passed all my labs and clinicals. What's the deal with the "may?" Did I miss a memo? :uhoh21:
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she was a real control freak. I was realllllllllllllllllllllly pizzed at her for this. Had I had more presence of mind, I would have made a bigger stink than I did. I guess I got my point across; the director did, too, apparently. This never, ever happened again, and I did receive a half-hearted apology from said instructor.