Valid Reasons To Not Get Vaccinated

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Whether you're in support of the COVID vaccine, against it,  or on the fence please use this particular thread to cite credible, evidence-based sources to share with everyone so we can engage in a discussion that revolves around LEARNING.  

I'll start:

The primary concerns I've shared with others have to do with how effective the vaccine is for those who have already been infected.  I've reviewed studies and reports in that regard.  There are medical professionals I've listened to that, in my personal opinion,  don't offer a definitive answer. 

Here are some links to 2 different, I'll start with just 2:

Cleveland Clinic Statement on Previous COVID-19 Infection Research

Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19 Vaccination — Kentucky, May–June 2021

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1 hour ago, jive turkey said:

Honestly bro, I stopped reading before the 1st sentence was over.   I've explained my perspective on validity and our ability to disagree on it. 

Muno as far as you're concerned there is no valid reason.  That's OK. 

I don't get the feeling you're trying to understand. I get the feeling you're trying to be right and prove me wrong.  

Let it go already.  I have a reason I consider valid. You don't.  End of story. 

Nite nite.

Actually I've offered reasons that would indeed be "valid" , even though I might disagree with those reasons as a matter of opinion, they are still objectively 'valid'.

But your suggestion that previous infection provides life long immunity that negates the need to ever get vaccinated is not valid, it's clearly false based on the scientific evidence that you provided.  

You are presenting these false claims publicly, people hear those claims and as a result may decide not to get vaccinated, not because they made an informed choice but because they made a misinformed choice, because of people like you.

And I'm not your 'bro'.

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12 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

1 Actually I've offered reasons that would indeed be "valid" , even though I might disagree with those reasons as a matter of opinion, they are still objectively 'valid'.

2.But your suggestion that previous infection provides life long immunity that negates the need to ever get vaccinated is not valid, it's clearly false based on the scientific evidence that you provided.  

3 You are presenting these false claims publicly, people hear those claims and as a result may decide not to get vaccinated, not because they made an informed choice but because they made a misinformed choice, because of people like you.

And I'm not your 'bro'.

1. Sure

2. Quote me saying any kind of immunity is life long

3.quote one false claim I presented. Don't reiterate but quote text of me presenting something as factual that isn't. 

Bet cha can't Bro! You never do.

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27 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

1. Sure

2. Quote me saying any kind of immunity is life long

3.quote one false claim I presented. Don't reiterate but quote text of me presenting something as factual that isn't. 

Bet cha can't Bro! You never do.

I pointed out in numerous posts that your claims were only potentially valid when limited to a certain time period after vaccination.  I gently nudged you to offer this qualifier to your position, and then finally just directly pointed out the flaw in your claim, which was that there was not only a lack of evidence to assume natural immunity to Covid lasted forever, but that there was ample evidence that it doesn't last forever.  You didn't offer any proposal as an alternative to the recommendation, which is to vaccinate as soon as possible.  

Generally speaking, you've instead suggested that people check with their provider to see if they should get vaccinated as though that's the recommendation for those with previous infections, it is not, which misleads people.

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31 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

I pointed out in numerous posts that your claims were only potentially valid when limited to a certain time period after vaccination.  I gently nudged you to offer this qualifier to your position, and then finally just directly pointed out the flaw in your claim, which was that there was not only a lack of evidence to assume natural immunity to Covid lasted forever, but that there was ample evidence that it doesn't last forever.  You didn't offer any proposal as an alternative to the recommendation, which is to vaccinate as soon as possible.  

Generally speaking, you've instead suggested that people check with their provider to see if they should get vaccinated as though that's the recommendation for those with previous infections, it is not, which misleads people.

Exactly. You couldn't do it!

Nothing you said is accurate and you can't even quote me saying it! ???????Quit making stuff up bro!

 

I expressly said, more than once,   everyone talk to their doctor. Previously infected too. 

If you want to be right, go ahead. We are going in circles and you're making up things that I didn't say or imply.  

Here you go: ?

 

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So using Texas abortion law as precedent Maryland is allowing citizens to sue anyone who doesn't take the covid vaccine or seen not wearing a mask or for looking orange with an orangutan type comb over that looks like a Fox's tail ?. Also all travel to Mexico is banned if it's because of an electrical blackout from any type of storm! Turtle necks are allowed, unless you are from Kentucky. 

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4 hours ago, jive turkey said:

Honestly bro, I stopped reading before the 1st sentence was over.   I've explained my perspective on validity and our ability to disagree on it. 

Muno as far as you're concerned there is no valid reason.  That's OK. 

I don't get the feeling you're trying to understand. I get the feeling you're trying to be right and prove me wrong.  

Let it go already.  I have a reason I consider valid. You don't.  End of story. 

Nite nite.

It's not just MunoRN.  There's a whole host of us who haven't been convinced that there's a valid reason to not get vaccinated outside of medical contraindication.  There's been no evidence presented.  The thread is a bust on that level. 

I suspect the thread has a different purpose. 

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It's not just MunoRN.  There's a whole host of us who haven't been convinced that there's a valid reason to not get vaccinated outside of medical contraindication.  There's been no evidence presented.  The thread is a bust on that level. 

I suspect the thread has a different purpose. 

I think they are afraid if they took the vaccine, they will be tracked and they won't be able to go to the Bahamas with underage girls or do any of the other shady things they are always being accused of or it might be a conspiracy to make them Democrat ??????

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2 hours ago, Curious1997 said:

I think they are afraid if they took the vaccine, they will be tracked and they won't be able to go to the Bahamas with underage girls or do any of the other shady things they are always being accused of or it might be a conspiracy to make them Democrat ??????

That's DEFINITELY what I'm afraid of!

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7 hours ago, MunoRN said:

Actually I've offered reasons that would indeed be "valid" , even though I might disagree with those reasons as a matter of opinion, they are still objectively 'valid'.

But your suggestion that previous infection provides life long immunity that negates the need to ever get vaccinated is not valid, it's clearly false based on the scientific evidence that you provided.  

You are presenting these false claims publicly, people hear those claims and as a result may decide not to get vaccinated, not because they made an informed choice but because they made a misinformed choice, because of people like you.

And I'm not your 'bro'.

Derek Zoolander would say "and I'm not your braaa." BLUE STEEL!! KARATE CHOP!

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14 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

That's DEFINITELY what I'm afraid of!

So what are you worried about re the govt following you for? 

I usually take the battery out of my cell phone and make a foil hat and I wrap my body in copper and so far they haven't caught up with me. 

Maybe you can try that?

I'm also working on an invisible formula using a tequila glaze, I'll let you know when it's done. Oh wait, I forgot. Tequila... Mexican. Don't worry, I'll see if I can get some American tequila ????? Andale', Andale' 

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15 minutes ago, Curious1997 said:

So what are you worried about re the govt following you for? 

I usually take the battery out of my cell phone and make a foil hat and I wrap my body in copper and so far they haven't caught up with me. 

Maybe you can try that?

I'm also working on an invisible formula using a tequila glaze, I'll let you know when it's done. Oh wait, I forgot. Tequila... Mexican. Don't worry, I'll see if I can get some American tequila ????? Andale', Andale' 

Never mind tequila … it’s got nothing on good ole USA moonshine!

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