Witnessed an 8th grader doing a bad "sick" impression the other day - bad in that she was trying her best to channel a kindergartener's affect when they're not feeling well.
Oh, and she arrived first thing before even going to class. Guess mom hadn't fallen for the act earlier at home.
It was not a good look on her, especially when she was seen merrily bouncing down the hallway later with some compatriots.
Getting more and more discouraged at how the health office continues to morph into a "Get Out of Class Free Card" for a select (non-sick) portion of the school population.
Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
2 hours ago, MHDNURSE said:
I am guessing that your IEP requests were reasonable le and made sense. These ones were like "everyone will speak to my child respectfully. My son can have as many servings of lunch from the cafeteria as he wants/needs", etc.
Nothing like that but those type of accommodations weren't in the IEP. His were more like being able to record lectures and lessons and to have extra time for testing.
i have begun making more calls, especially for my dramatic students that come in 2-3-4 times for their stuffy noses and minor gi upset (probably nerves). I always preface it by telling the student "I have no reason to send you home at this time, but i'll gladly call home and let them know you're not feeling well" then when i get a parent i open with " Sally's been here several times complaining about XXX, I don't have any reason to require you to pick them up at this time, but wanted to let you know that they felt poorly enough to make multiple visits about this".
I do the same! The parents who answer usually tell the kid themselves to get to class, or they tell me "he said this morning he didn't feel like going to school, and he said nothing at all about being sick. No way he's coming home to play video games today."
And the parents who don't answer, don't answer. Either way there's usually a miraculous recovery.
Nothing like that but those type of accommodations weren't in the IEP. His were more like being able to record lectures and lessons and to have extra time for testing.
There is NO reason for those accomodations to be ignored, ever. I'm sorry you experienced that. I would say that is very much the exception and not the rule in my building.
Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
34 minutes ago, NutmeggeRN said:
There is NO reason for those accomodations to be ignored, ever. I'm sorry you experienced that. I would say that is very much the exception and not the rule in my building.
I know the school he was at just wanted to see him as a behavior problem!
I know the school he was at just wanted to see him as a behavior problem!
I wanted to give your post a sad face but I didn't want it to have a down vote so I settled for the thumbs up. That's awful and some schools are like that. I'm glad he's getting what he needs now!
Some (a handful) parents are manipulating and the student knows. I have a parent that when I call I have a witness (announced) and am considering recording. We had a storm, student anxious, called to see how she wanted him soothed. She posted on FB that we asked her to come & evacuate student. HUH?
I am guessing that your IEP requests were reasonable le and made sense. These ones were like "everyone will speak to my child respectfully. My son can have as many servings of lunch from the cafeteria as he wants/needs", etc.
Exactly! Maybe everything on the IEP should be given, but sometimes not everything that gets on an IEP should be there...
The kids are needy because the adults in the building have gotten so much younger, needier and have little to no common sense.
This.
I feel like more and more adults feel the need to be “popular” with the kids. Maybe I’m an old fart now, but when I was a kid, no adult gave a rat’s butt whether we liked them or not.
Specializes in school nursing/ maternal/child hospital based.
On 9/25/2019 at 3:13 PM, BiscuitRN said:
YES! We're only on week 5 and this is already the year of the fakers. All new students who think they can pull one over on me. I had a student make up a whole story about hitting her head then exhibit very specific, subjective characteristics of concussion. Nice try. Our school installed high res camera on our field. We watched the footage. No head hit ever occurred.
I just had a similar situation, but no camera! Had 5 kids walk in at the same time. 3 heads, a nose bleed and a pooper! All 3 heads appear stable, the bleeder is bleeding pretty good. Im triaging as fast as I can. While I have my back turned to this 3rd grader, she proceeds to slump over in her chair and say " Nurse, I think Im going to fall" I move another kid from 1 of my 2 cots. Take my attention away from the other students and assess her. NADA, appears WNL Neuro WNL. Place Ice, have her rest, move on to another student. AGAIN, while Im working with the student she states " The lights feel like they are flashing on and off" WTH Assess again. Still WNL. Im wondering if I should call EMS, but the assessment is WNL. Keep moving on to another student. Get them all assessed, bleeding under control, pooper has things to clean and change per self. Seriously this is in like 5 min. Go to call home for the student ( at this point assessment is completely negative with the exception of what she is saying) Mind you, I dont ask any leading questions. NEVER are you dizzy, nauseated, vision changes- you get the drift. I speak with Mom, discuss assessment, while Im on the phone with her she yells, " Im going to throw up" Again WTH. Nobody saw this kid bump her head and she didnt report until recess was over. Mom states she will be right over. I finally finish with the other kids, everyone is stable and well enough to return to class. I darken the room, Ice remains in place, Im not seeing anything outward and no visible injury. Mom takes 1 1/2 hours to get here! the kid remains stable I neuro check her every 15 minutes- she never vomits and every time another student walks in she is very interested in what I am doing. The only thing she says at this point is " I just dont think I can go back to class" Doesnt specifically verbalize anything else. Mom arrives, states she is taking her to ER for eval.
GUESS WHAT... the next day little darling is skipping down the hall and says "Im all better" I asked if she had seen the MD because I had not received a call back, as I had requested from Mom, nor any medical documentation. She said that she felt better when she went home, so Mom decided to let her go to dance practice.
Where did this 3rd grader learn to discuss vomiting, sensitivity to light and felling like she was going to fall?
I know that Im getting jaded and cynical. I see SOOOOO many kids with complaints, injuries that are not real. Im beginning to doubt myself. I literally have a pep session with myself every morning to walk in the door. Im afraid that Im going to miss something real because everything is an EMERGENCY. Its not just the students- the staff over react to everything too.
Where did this 3rd grader learn to discuss vomiting, sensitivity to light and felling like she was going to fall?
I don't put anything past them. I had a group of 1st grade girls conspiring to be sent home last year. All came in within 15minutes of each other, and all with the exact same phrasing of symptoms that I had never heard a 1st grader utter in my life. They are extremely conniving when they want to be.
My favorite is a 3rd grade girl who since I have known her, throws all kinds of medical terminology at me, hoping something sticks. For example, she'll come in for a stomach ache and she'll say something like "It could be peritonitis, but its probably just constipation. I ate a lot of pizza last night..." as I'm ushering her out the door. My guess is that she has unfettered access to Grey's Anatomy and while she doesn't know what she's saying, she'll pick up on whatever symptoms the patient in the show begins by having.
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Nothing like that but those type of accommodations weren't in the IEP. His were more like being able to record lectures and lessons and to have extra time for testing.