The abortion law builds on legislation passed in 2010 that represented a major shift for a traditionally Catholic country, transforming Spain into one of the most progressive countries in Europe on reproductive rights. Spain's constitutional court last week rejected a challenge by the right-wing Popular Party against allowing abortions in the first 14 weeks of pregnancy.
The debate will be heated in Spain, I imagine, as the conservative opposition pushes back. My daughter had horrible menstrual pain during her adolescence and young adulthood. I'm certain that she would have benefitted from that time.
I will say that at this point, Trump and other Republicans including their party agenda and then said to leave it up to the states with no mention of a "national abortion ban". I recently saw Harris fear mongering about the "national abortion ban".
Trump has said he would support a national ban after 15 weeks, so maybe this is what Harris is talking about?
If Trump wins, Trump being the lying flip flopper that he is, just might go for a national abortion ban and then claim he never said he would leave it up to the states, be facted check that indeed he did, but people won't care, as long as he does their agenda. Rinse wash and repeat.
I don't know that he's implemented any policies that he said he wouldn't.
He's said he wouldn't, a national abortion ban isn't a popular idea, and he can't put one in place by himself.
So, Harris and anyone who brings it up is indeed fear-mongering.
I don't know that he's implemented any policies that he said he wouldn't.
He's said he wouldn't, a national abortion ban isn't a popular idea, and he can't put one in place by himself.
So, Harris and anyone who brings it up is indeed fear-mongering.
I agree with the caveat what I said about Trump.
I do think it was on their wish list in the past, but kind of like banning gay marriage years ago, they have caved to popular opinion on moved on to battles they might be able to control and get more popular votes with.
I think that the 15 week ban that many republicans, including Trump, have endorsed is being touted by those that oppose it as a "national abortion ban". Kind of like "Biden's open border policies" that don't exist neither does a movement of a national ban, but it's twisting of logic. I don't approve. They should call it what it is.
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Trump suggests he'd support a national ban on abortions around 15 weeks of pregnancy
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I don't know that he's implemented any policies that he said he wouldn't.
He's said he wouldn't, a national abortion ban isn't a popular idea, and he can't put one in place by himself.
So, Harris and anyone who brings it up is indeed fear-mongering.
Baloney.
We were told that it was fear mongering to point out the right wing desire and efforts to limit access to abortion and then the right wing overturned Roe.
Trump is a liar who expects other people to lie as a portion of their loyalty to him. What kind of people believe what a pathological liar says when the available information, history and pattern of behavior suggests something very different?
It's been a bad few weeks for Biden supporters. It was already a main strategy, but now "orange man, bad" is the only strategy.
No, perhaps a better strategy is for him to stand down and pick someone else to back up Kamala. Pleanty of Democrats have been on this for months. We are not robot-thinkers. We are known for our ability to disagree! I disagree plenty with the new progressivism but that doesn't mean I'm not going to vote for someone more competent than Trump. A poodle is more competent than Trump. They are smart dogs and they don't shed and they aren't destroyers.
I don't know that he's implemented any policies that he said he wouldn't.
He's said he wouldn't, a national abortion ban isn't a popular idea, and he can't put one in place by himself.
So, Harris and anyone who brings it up is indeed fear-mongering.
Trump lies and changes his mind to suit winning the election. He has no thought deeper than what's for dinner. He speaks off the cuff and has no idea what he is saying because he can no longer remember all the lies he has told.
Trump lies and changes his mind to suit winning the election. He has no thought deeper than what's for dinner. He speaks off the cuff and has no idea what he is saying because he can no longer remember all the lies he has told.
As that may or may not be true, doesn't change the reality that I spoke of.
No, perhaps a better strategy is for him to stand down and pick someone else to back up Kamala. Pleanty of Democrats have been on this for months. We are not robot-thinkers. We are known for our ability to disagree! I disagree plenty with the new progressivism but that doesn't mean I'm not going to vote for someone more competent than Trump. A poodle is more competent than Trump. They are smart dogs and they don't shed and they aren't destroyers.
Some interesting polls coming out, although I know some of you don't believe in polls. I take them with a grain of salt as well.
Count me in those that think Biden should step aside, but also if he doesn't would vote him. I'm thinking he's going to wait until after the Republican convention to drop out. Politically this makes a bit of sense.
It's also interesting that pre-debate and post-debate they are still in a virtual tie. So the "orange bad" strategy vs. the "demented old man that can't put together a sentence" strategy hasn't seemed to changed things yet.
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Two-thirds of Americans in a new ABC News/Washington Post/Ipsos poll – including a majority of Joe Biden's own supporters – say he should step aside as his party's presumptive nominee for president given his debate performance two weeks ago. That's even as Biden continues to run evenly with Donald Trump, with no meaningful post-debate change in vote preferences.
Americans divide 46-47% between Biden and Trump if the election were today, almost identical to a 44-46% ABC/Ipsos poll result in April. Among registered voters (though there's plenty of time to register) it's an absolute tie, 46-46%.
Were Vice President Kamala Harris to replace Biden as the Democratic nominee, vote choices are 49-46%, Harris-Trump, among all adults (and 49-47% among registered voters). Harris' 49% is slightly better than Biden's 46%, although she doesn't have a statistically significant lead over Trump.
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Some interesting polls coming out, although I know some of you don't believe in polls. I take them with a grain of salt as well.
Count me in those that think Biden should step aside, but also if he doesn't would vote him. I'm thinking he's going to wait until after the Republican convention to drop out. Politically this makes a bit of sense.
It's also interesting that pre-debate and post-debate they are still in a virtual tie. So the "orange bad" strategy vs. the "demented old man that can't put together a sentence" strategy hasn't seemed to changed things yet.
So far, Biden has proven that he's really old but not demented while his opponent has proven that he's old AND is a pathological liar. Nothing has changed that realities that Trump failed the leadership test with covid and then tried to retain lost power through unconstitutional means.
Since my vote is a vote against Trump more than it's a vote for Biden, I'll vote for the Biden team as long as it's the opposition to the Trump team. In my view, it would be foolish for Biden to step aside before the election. Biden would likely endorse Harris in that event and he doesn't need to upset the campaign applecart to make that transition. Our entire political system is setup to accommodate the change of chief executive in the middle of a presidential administration. We've done it without chaos or collapse a dozen or more times.
I agree that the attempt by the GOP to gas light the entire country that Biden has dementia didn't enjoy the success that the messaging achieved among Trump's faithful supporters. My guess is that the Trump campaign will pivot now and the shooting will become the forefront motivator for voting against Biden and liberals. Trump will be a real hero martyr for MAGA.
My guess is that the Trump campaign will pivot now and the shooting will become the forefront motivator for voting against Biden and liberals. Trump will be a real hero martyr for MAGA.
Perhaps in the short term it will. Politicians are already calling it a "attack from the left" which will demonize the left and raise the status of Trump. MAGA people that already worship the upstanding Christian Patriot Victim that is Trump will only worship him more.
At the end of the day, no matter how it's politicized by right and left it's a dreadful event.
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The apparent assassination attempt of former President Donald Trump on Saturday outraged, electrified and emboldened Republicans, who hailed Trump's clenched fist in the wake of gunshots, while it sobered Democrats who were already nervous about the threat of political violence and their diminished prospects this fall.
Within minutes of the rifle fire at Trump's rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, Republican anger at the shooting turned to admiration at Trump's instinctive response and then jubilation at his defiance, a reaction that underscored the persecution his supporters feel and the instantaneous manner of how even the most grave news is processed.
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Perhaps in the short term it will. Politicians are already calling it a "attack from the left" which will demonize the left and raise the status of Trump. MAGA people that already worship the upstanding Christian Patriot Victim that is Trump will only worship him more.
At the end of the day, no matter how it's politicized by right and left it's a dreadful event.
As you mentioned before, we are a violent society and some of our political activists use anger and outrage to motivate their audience so, there's a feeling of inevitability. We even have one side of the political argument talking about inevitable civil war.
The shooting also opened a big window of question about what in the world is going on with our Secret Service. I've had some serious questions since Obama's presidency. When the secret service deleted all of the text messages relevant to the active 010621 investigation the questions got bigger. Now we have reports that the security detail didn't even clear nearby rooftops and were slow to respond to reports of a man with a rifle on a rooftop.
The director of the SS will be answering some questions about this in a House hearing. I'm looking forward to contrasting the questions from the committee members. It should be entertaining.
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I don't know that he's implemented any policies that he said he wouldn't.
He's said he wouldn't, a national abortion ban isn't a popular idea, and he can't put one in place by himself.
So, Harris and anyone who brings it up is indeed fear-mongering.