This was interesting in the news today...

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https://www.npr.org/2023/02/16/1157480905/spain-menstrual-leave-teen-abortion-trans-laws

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The abortion law builds on legislation passed in 2010 that represented a major shift for a traditionally Catholic country, transforming Spain into one of the most progressive countries in Europe on reproductive rights. Spain's constitutional court last week rejected a challenge by the right-wing Popular Party against allowing abortions in the first 14 weeks of pregnancy.

The debate will be heated in Spain, I imagine, as the conservative opposition pushes back. My daughter had horrible menstrual pain during her adolescence and young adulthood.  I'm certain that she would have benefitted from that time. 

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
subee said:

You are going to have to prove what you are saying.  I checked that particular topic in the South African news and can find no corroboration.  There was one referral that was 11 years ago from a nut job on Twitter and Facebook along with a fact check that this was a lone liar.  

You don't consider Venezuela "unrestful" enough?  

subee said:

https://newrepublic.com/post/180700/trump-incoherent-gettysburg-jokes-Twitter

Does Trump sound reasonable and logical during this speech?

There are many times I cringe when he speaks.  So, just for the sake of discussion I'll say no.

So, what's your point?

heron said:

If the reference is to one of my posts, you need to tell the truth and shame the devil. I don't think I ever claimed the Biden decline narrative was fabricated but that it was exaggerated and misrepresented. Political discourse these days is infested with false equivalencies, and this was one of them. It was pushed specifically to mask trump's own deteriorating mental/emotional capacities.

Your words:

"The whole Biden decline schtick was designed to distract from trump's mental and emotional disability."

No you're backing away, and saying it was exaggerated.

OK, what was real and what was exaggerated?

Was George Clooney in on it?  Other Democrats? People within the administration and press who now say his decline was being covered up?

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Beerman said:

Your words:

"The whole Biden decline schtick was designed to distract from trump's mental and emotional disability."

No you're backing away, and saying it was exaggerated.

OK, what was real and what was exaggerated?

Was George Clooney in on it?  Other Democrats? People within the administration and press who now say his decline was being covered up?

Look up the definition of schtick. Not backing away from anything.

Also not going down the rabbit hole you're so desperate to resurrect.

I'm more concerned about an obvious wingnut holding our nuclear codes and selling the country to his merry band of oligarchs, christian nationalists and white supremacists both foreign and domestic.

Specializes in Hospice.

So ... isn't the president constitutioally responsible for conducting foreign relations?

How do you think the trump/rubio team is doing so far?

heron said:

Look up the definition of schtick. Not backing away from anything.

Also not going down the rabbit hole you're so desperate to resurrect.

I'm more concerned about an obvious wingnut holding our nuclear codes and selling the country to his merry band of oligarchs, christian nationalists and white supremacists both foreign and domestic.

I don't need to look it up.  Schtick usually means a gimmick meant to entertain.  If you mean something different, just say so.

Not backing away?  OK.  You're just not able to back up what you said.

You're the one who dug the rabbit hole.  I didn't bring it up.  But I certainly understand why you want to move on.

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I noticed a while back protestors are the enemy.  Pro-Hammas protesters, I mean those protesting the war crime of blocking aid l, starving and killing civilians need to be suppressed and have their schools funding cut.  

It's easy to sensationalize a statement one makes.  The left does it too like when Musk made a Nazi salute.  

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Tweety said:

I noticed a while back protestors are the enemy.  Pro-Hammas protesters, I mean those protesting the war crime of blocking aid l, starving and killing civilians need to be suppressed and have their schools funding cut.  

It's easy to sensationalize a statement one makes.  The left does it too like when Musk made a Nazi salute.  

It's bad to protest against cruelty toward Palestinian people but it's good to take gifts from the country that funds HAMAS, in Trumplandia. 

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
Beerman said:

There are many times I cringe when he speaks.  So, just for the sake of discussion I'll say no.

So, what's your point?

ThatTrump is the president,  not Biden.  Trump  is a madman clearly setting himself up as a dictator.  This is facing us here and now. 

  Big difference between the administrations.  Take your pick. 

 

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heron said:

Look up the definition of schtick. Not backing away from anything.

Also not going down the rabbit hole you're so desperate to resurrect.

I'm more concerned about an obvious wingnut holding our nuclear codes and selling the country to his merry band of oligarchs, christian nationalists and white supremacists both foreign and domestic.

I've turned on Fox News twice and both days long coverage of this important story to them. They highlighted a deflection Trump made about "the bigger lie was the cover up of Biden" to show Trump was right.  Bigger than what of the many lies Trump tells they didn't show.

It's too juicy a story for Fox to not blow up, but wonder where it's heading?

I am more interested in current events but will follow.  I guess though it's a big deal to some people.

Bill Maher recently visited Trump and found him friendly and coherent

 

subee said:

ThatTrump is the president,  not Biden.  Trump  is a madman clearly setting himself up as a dictator.  This is facing us here and now. 

  Big difference between the administrations.  Take your pick. 

 

Once again, it wasn't me who brought him up.  Another member mentioned his appearance on The View, and I replied.  Another member then replied to that, and so on.

Like me, I'm sure they're aware of the fact that Biden isn't the President.  No need to make the point.  

That being said, I'll continue to talk about Biden when I please.     

Specializes in Hospice.

Covering up presidential frailties is, I think, SOP regardless of party. Saint Ronnie and Jack Kennedy come immediately to mind.

There's certainly plenty for Fox to avoid reporting on: Miller's private gestapo, special treatment for white South Africans, blatant corruption and incompetence throughout the present administration, the violation of the constitutionally mandated separation of powers, the shredding of the constitution and willful disobedience of court orders, the call to suspend habeas corpus, official threats against media organizations, judges, dissenters ... you get the idea. And that list doesn't even include Trump's own psychiatric disabilities.

With all that going on, no wonder magadonian media are delighted to find this rabbit hole. It's a perfect place to bury public awareness of just how badly this administration is performing.

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