This article insults nursing as a lower skilled job

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i just read this article that down plays the work and hard study that rn's all put in to obtain a degree in college or a university. i feel insulted and plan to write them. :angryfire and a i am trying to "edit" to stay legal here, it is the fact that nursing is lumped into the mind set of a "lower skilled job" that precisely burns me up.

no college? not necessarily a problem

report points to 16 good fields for lower-skilled workers

by andrea coombes, marketwatch

last update: 7:36 pm et oct. 27, 2005

san francisco (marketwatch) -- the reigning assumption among many americans is that teenagers go directly from high school to college, but that's not the way life always works.

just 27% of americans over age 25 hold bachelor's degrees or higher, according to 2004 census data. see the census data.

the report details 16 jobs, all in growing industries, that pay more than $25,000 a year, are available to workers holding an associate's degree or less, and don't require a significant amount of previous work experience.

those occupations include nursing, carpentry, bookkeeping, plumbers and electricians. (see full list below.)

"there's no question that the payoff for a college degree is highly valuable and getting more valuable every year, [but] there are major occupations with large numbers of jobs going wanting that pay reasonably good wages, and are within reach of working adults that don't yet have postsecondary education," rubin said.

some barriers to entry

but just because you don't necessarily need a college degree doesn't mean entry into these jobs is easy.

for instance, "registered nurse" tops the list of 16 jobs because it has the greatest number of projected annual job openings, but that job poses barriers for some lower-skilled entrants, including training programs that tend to be highly competitive and full-time.

"registered nurse is certainly an excellent paying occupation and an occupation where there are tremendous shortages," rubin said. but, he added, entry to the field usually requires at least three years of full-time study and "very, very strong math and science skills."

an alternative is to become a licensed practical nurse, another job on the list. certification is often available through part-time training programs, making that occupation a more manageable entry point into the nursing field for those needing to support themselves and a family.

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Seemed objective to me. That said, 50% of my ASN class flunked out first semester.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
Lower skilled? Please. Come to my unit and work my job and then tell me I am lower skilled..... This isn't McDonald's where we get a few hours of orientation then start work.

I agree. It seems to me a lot of those "lower skilled" workers would argue the same, for instance the electrician, auto mechanic or even the secretary. All of whom could hold an associate degree in their field.

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.

I'm sorry, but I busted my patookis for four years to get that "2-year degree" and I refuse to be insulted by 'experts' who claim that people like myself are 'low-skilled' or 'not educated'. More than likely, it'll be an ADN who saves THEIR bacon when they're ill with pneumonia and that nurse's clinical sense detects impending respiratory failure even before their O2 sats start dropping. Phooey.:stone

Specializes in Med/Surg, Geriatrics.

For the most part, the article is correct but it could give the impression that you do not need a college degree to be a registered nurse and that you only need to enter a "training program", which I assume they mean to be a diploma school. There aren't very many of those around anymore are there? And of course there's the unfortunate "lower skilled" title which I have a real problem with nursing being anywhere near those two words. To an outsider, that article could be very misleading especially when you try to enter a "training program" to become a registered nurse and find out that it's very hard to find one and you will need a college education.

Journalism didn't make the list?

Journalism didn't make the list?

Haha, good comeback. :chuckle

Specializes in LDRP; Education.

I think the article was basically true, and while "lower-skilled" wasn't probably the best term, I think what they were trying to say is not how difficult a certain skill is but rather where it sits in relation to "professional" jobs such as managerial, executive, etc.

And yes, while its true that many RNs hold bachelor's degrees, a bachelor's degree is not required to become an RN. So, if you're looking for a good career that pays well and doesn't require getting a bachelor's degree, nursing is the way to go is what I walked away with from the article.

My opinion is the article simply reflects what I hate about our profession: that we are viewed as "pink collar", a good career for those who aren't university material or for those who don't want to attend a university. It's viewed as a good career choice for those who need to get some income soon and don't want to invest alot in their education to get there. And while that in and of itself isn't bad, nursing as a result then gets lumped into a category of "lower skilled." Which is fine, if that is what nursing really is. But then it brings us back full circle to the argument of if we are a profession, what is a profession, and should we have Bachelor's degrees be the minimum requirement?

But those are all separate arguments. :cool:

I don't know either what you found insulting in the article. I read it.

I didn't feel insulted by it.

LPN's and RN's make good money now, alot better than they used to.

I'm up to over 19.00/hr now where I work and another possible upgrade coming soon from our state legislature. That's not anything to sneeze at. Alot of men around here don't make that kind of money.

And I also know that people canNOT go out there and get a job as an LPN or an RN OR EVEN a CNA without the training to do those jobs.

Even CNA's have to be trained. It takes a certain amount of skill even for CNA's because most of the time they are the first in contact with a patient and must know what to observe for and report to the nurses. I just know that people in general cannot do those jobs without training and a good nurse or CNA comes with experience.

But I still don't find anything insulting about the article.

To me it was just giving what kind of jobs are out there that have openings in their fields and what kind of money can be made in those jobs.

Specializes in Case Mgmt; Mat/Child, Critical Care.

Well, I, for one, did not care for this article. The title "No College, not a problem..." sets the tone. The fact that RN is the #1 job listed in their "list" along w/content stating phrases such as "workers with limited skills...."

And, please, give me a break..... I am so sick of hearing that nursing pay is "excellent".... Right. It's all relative, it is decent for what we do; have to put up with. (Long hours, w/e's, holidays, shift work, on call, nights....not to mention being exposed to every illness known to man, along w/every disgusting bodily fluid there is.....:uhoh21: )

I felt this article was very misleading at best.....:stone

Specializes in LDRP; Education.
And, please, give me a break..... I am so sick of hearing that nursing pay is "excellent".... Right.

I think given the amount of education that is required for the field (which can be as little, and little I mean time spent not worth, as a diploma program or community college) the pay for nursing is indeed excellent. I'm not sure what other trades that would require the same type/length of education would pay starting...

I think at some community colleges they also offer training to be a vet assistant: how much do they make?

Specializes in Public Health, DEI.

I think it's hilarious that the writer considers jobs that pay more than $25,000 a year "reasonably good paying", especially since she is based in San Francisco, where you'd have to commute an hour or more to a job if you only earned that much.

Specializes in ER.

I agree that the article's title is inappropriate and degrading, but the article itself seems to be very truthful, speaking to the difficult admission process, and the math/science skills needed to become a nurse. Also give them props for including the LPN aspect. I think this article might just bring some new nurses into the field, simply because they never realized that they could get a nursing degree without having to go to a 4 year college/university. I think that is a great thing!

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