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I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
Quote“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/09/25/trump-dishes-to-his-psychiatrist-00058732
On 11/17/2022 at 10:03 AM, Beerman said:Not exactly new, but better. I don't think I've seen the logo. It's funny!
Most of the rest of the world has managed to not use MAGAphile. Funny how a handful here struggle.
I bet you have an example of that "struggle", or maybe not. Conservatives in these threads complained about use of the term Trumpublican too... always circling back to that notion that not all Republicans are Trump supporters...but Trumpublicans and MAGAphiles ARE all Trump supporters. It is interesting that these terms seem to bother the member who used the term Libtard in discussion.
2 hours ago, Tweety said:So Elon Musk has held a vote and the people of Twitter have spoken and Trump's Twitter Account ban has been lifted. Trump apparently isn't interested, but was interested enough to ask his followers to go and vote.
Yeah...Musk thought that the bots should get a voice. Interesting, eh?
On 11/20/2022 at 6:39 AM, Tweety said:They seem to use it with ease and deliberately, what makes you think they struggle not to use it like the rest of the world?
Haha....yes they do. And with the intent to be inflammatory.
Those here have said they use the term to distinguish between Trump supporters and conservatives. And have more than once said they are still waiting for suggestions for a better term.
My point was, this is the only place I've heard the term. Everywhere else, people seem to be able to participate in discussion and even partisan rhetoric without using that term. But, those here are basically saying they will lost without that term or a suggested alternative.
3 hours ago, Beerman said:Haha....yes they do. And with the intent to be inflammatory.
Those here have said they use the term to distinguish between Trump supporters and conservatives. And have more than once said they are still waiting for suggestions for a better term.
My point was, this is the only place I've heard the term. Everywhere else, people seem to be able to participate in discussion and even partisan rhetoric without using that term. But, those here are basically saying they will lost without that term or a suggested alternative.
This is the only place I've heard the term, as well as the term Trumplican, but I have seen it used in a few places since. Most recently to describe the man that attacked Pelosi.
Then again Trump himself loves to make up names for people and institutions like "Fake News Media", Sleepy Joe, Pocahontas. So it's kind of like karma.
While I tend to go high myself and not use derogatory terms, my concern of someone's concern about being labeled a MAGAphile as insult to them is barely a blip on my radar of concerns. They've told me to f-my feelings and "Let's Go Brandon", so karma again.
Oh wait, is that liberal hypocrisy and double standards?
28 minutes ago, Tweety said:This is the only place I've heard the term, as well as the term Trumplican, but I have seen it used in a few places since. Most recently to describe the man that attacked Pelosi.
Then again Trump himself loves to make up names for people and institutions like "Fake News Media", Sleepy Joe, Pocahontas. So it's kind of like karma.
While I tend to go high myself and not use derogatory terms, my concern of someone's concern about being labeled a MAGAphile as insult to them is barely a blip on my radar of concerns. They've told me to f-my feelings and "Let's Go Brandon", so karma again.
Oh wait, is that liberal hypocrisy and double standards?
Not saying you should be concerned. However, calling Biden or Warren or Trump a name is different than calling people here a name, imo. So, disagree about it being karma. Anyway, moving on....
26 minutes ago, Tweety said:This is the only place I've heard the term, as well as the term Trumplican, but I have seen it used in a few places since. Most recently to describe the man that attacked Pelosi.
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I think both have been around. The Urban Dictionary entries for MAGAphile and Trumplican entries date from January 11, 2020 and February 28, 2017 respectively.
32 minutes ago, Tweety said:[...]
Then again Trump himself loves to make up names for people and institutions like "Fake News Media", Sleepy Joe, Pocahontas. So it's kind of like karma.
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Actually it was Fauxcahontas. And yes, it is karma and karma can be a *****
38 minutes ago, Tweety said:[...]
While I tend to go high myself and not use derogatory terms [emphasis concern of someone's concern about being labeled a MAGAphile as insult to them is barely a blip on my radar of concerns. They've told me to f-my feelings and "Let's Go Brandon", so karma again.
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Yes, you do, and it is noted and appreciated. And, I agree with the rest. I've always been amazed with those that sling mud and then cry foul when someone flings it back.
20 minutes ago, Beerman said:Not saying you should be concerned. However, calling Biden or Warren or Trump a name is different than calling people here a name, imo. So, disagree about it being karma. Anyway, moving on....
I've seen it used more in a general way speaking of Trump supporters. If someone calls someone a MAGAphile as an individual poster and means it derogatory that that person alone, that's a violation of the Terms of Service and should be reported.
Moving on......
15 minutes ago, chare said:I think both have been around. The Urban Dictionary entries for MAGAphile and Trumplican entries date from January 11, 2020 and February 28, 2017 respectively.
Actually it was Fauxcahontas. And yes, it is karma and karma can be a *****
Yes, you do, and it is noted and appreciated. And, I agree with the rest. I've always been amazed with those that sling mud and then cry foul when someone flings it back.
Haven't you wanted me to specifically differentiate between all Republicans or all conservatives and those who support and/or defend Trump in these political threads? Are you now complaining because a term is now being used to identify narrow group of people within the republican party? And, in order to make the term negative must you assign a derogatory intent to the user? Is that because the root elements of the word have no negative connotation? That's interesting. What do you think the intention is in complaining about terminology used to identify a group of like minded people?
Is there another term/word that better describes those voters that you would prefer that I use?
38 minutes ago, Beerman said:Not saying you should be concerned. However, calling Biden or Warren or Trump a name is different than calling people here a name, imo. So, disagree about it being karma. Anyway, moving on....
Who called a member here a name? Was an individual in this (or another) thread called a name?
14 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:38 minutes ago, chare said:I think both have been around. The Urban Dictionary entries for MAGAphile and Trumplican entries date from January 11, 2020 and February 28, 2017 respectively.
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Haven't you wanted me to specifically differentiate between all Republicans or all conservatives and those who support and/or defend Trump in these political threads? Are you now complaining because a term is now being used to identify narrow group of people within the republican party? And, in order to make the term negative must you assign a derogatory intent to the user? Is that because the root elements of the word have no negative connotation?
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Once again, I post a neutral comment regarding the history of MAGAphile and Trumplican, and once again you take of down the rabbit hole as you make multiple assumptions. And, I lost it while editing the post, but I had included a comment that I did not have a problem or find it offensive if it was not globally applied to all conservatives.
Say hello to the hookah-smoking caterpillar on the way down.
Like CRT, voter fraud and litter boxes in classrooms, this whole kerfuffle is a solution in search of a problem. You all might check out the process used to include a definition in the Urban Dictionary. The short form is that my definition is just as valid as theirs.
If the word magaphile is used so negatively, you would think that I, as a person who really is a far-leftist, would have come across it before now. I haven’t. Searching it yields only the urban dictionary’s reference, an art genre on the Deviant Art website, a voodoo doll for sale on Etsy and a Twitter handle I’m not allowed to see because I don’t have a Twitter account. Not much of a case for labeling the term as “pejorative”.
The question remains, what’s the agenda? We know that the CRT outrage is a tool used to justify the whitewashing of American history in schools. “Voter fraud” is an excuse to screen out undesirable voters. Cat litter in classrooms is a fantasy promoted by those who would like to eliminate free public education.
So … why the knee-jerk opposition to a semantically accurate term? It’s interesting to observe that the uproar is led by posters who either deny being “trump supporters” or carefully avoid naming their own personal viewpoints?
Cui bono? Who benefits from making it harder to think or talk about the MAGA subculture … which, by the way, precedes the advent of trump by decades, sometimes centuries? (Which is why I don’t go with tweety’s perfectly valid alternative.)
What an interesting rabbit hole we have here.
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So Elon Musk has held a vote and the people of Twitter have spoken and Trump's Twitter Account ban has been lifted. Trump apparently isn't interested, but was interested enough to ask his followers to go and vote.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63692369