I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
In a Sunday announcement naming his ambassador to Denmark, Trump wrote that, "For purposes of National Security and Freedom throughout the World, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity."
Greenland is not self-sufficient and I really think they like being part of Denmark but would rather be independent. It's just a guess but doubtful they want to be part of Trump's America. Their free healthcare would be incentive enough to stay away from us. They already allow an American base there. We don't need to own them.
what are folks' opinion about Trump proposing to take back the Panama Canal, annex Canada and acquire Greenland? Is he joking? Is this a negotiating tactic? What does he hope to gain? Is he hoping to influence voters by calling Trudeau "governor"?
His Christmas social media post said that Chinese soldiers are operating the Panama Canal? Really?
He also thinks Wayne Gretzky should be the Prime Minister of Canada, because he's famous? Thats just silly.
what are folks' opinion about Trump proposing to take back the Panama Canal, annex Canada and acquire Greenland? Is he joking? Is this a negotiating tactic? What does he hope to gain? Is he hoping to influence voters by calling Trudeau "governor"?
His Christmas social media post said that Chinese soldiers are operating the Panama Canal? Really?
He also thinks Wayne Gretzky should be the Prime Minister of Canada, because he's famous? Thats just silly.
Obviously, annexing Canada is probably illegal and/or impractical. Your article you linked to doesn't suggest to me at all that is what he has said. And the Gretzky recommendation sounds a bit tongue-in-cheek.
As for the others, since you have dove into it and done your homework, get us started and tell us why they're bad ideas.
Trump knows that Canada is and will always be an independent nation and calling the head of state "Governor of the Great State of Canada" is just him being his usual junior high self with his name calling.
Canada has a lot of problems and Trudeau is probably on his way out and unpopular in his home country. Trump should call him by his proper title and highlight our longstanding friendship and ties as well as things he wants them to change and work on.
I also really don't know why he's talking about Greenland again. Greenland and Denmark are aligned with the west and there is an American space force base there. I'm sure in strategic matters they will continue to cooperate with the United States and they've already said they are not up for grabs.
Trump falsely uses the word "pardon" but also has properly used the phrase "commuted the death sentence of". Those people are still in prison for life. Trump on the campaign trail made it clear he was pro-death penalty. Biden paused the death of these people and want to make sure on way out Trump wouldn't undo that. Given that the overwhelming number of death penalty sentences are handed down by states (40 federal to 2,000 states), I'm not sure how I feel about Biden doing this but gut feeling is he should have let what the courts have handed down stand.
Obviously, annexing Canada is probably illegal and/or impractical. Your article you linked to doesn't suggest to me at all that is what he has said. And the Gretzky recommendation sounds a bit tongue-in-cheek.
As for the others, since you have dove into it and done your homework, get us started and tell us why they're bad ideas.
The only information I've seen is from Trump's social media posts. His Christmas message was repeated in the article linked, so I don't know how much more homework you expect.
I didn't say they were bad ideas. I find them hard to understand, so I was hoping other members here could help explain them.
The only information I've seen is from Trump's social media posts. His Christmas message was repeated in the article linked, so I don't know how much more homework you expect.
I didn't say they were bad ideas. I find them hard to understand, so I was hoping other members here could help explain them.
I actually don't expect you to do any homework.
What I do expect is that you'll continue to simply criticize something that comes from Trump or in some small rrmote way may shine a positive light on Trump.
Obviously, annexing Canada is probably illegal and/or impractical. Your article you linked to doesn't suggest to me at all that is what he has said. And the Gretzky recommendation sounds a bit tongue-in-cheek.
As for the others, since you have dove into it and done your homework, get us started and tell us why they're bad ideas.
If there is any substance to what he rants about, why doesn't he say it in a way that might persuade people to his ideas? Instead he does the opposite, saying things in a way to draw anger and opposition from all except for his fan base who seems to love that behavior.
Why do you think he gets meaner at Christmas? And how do you feel about a president insulting and demeaning leaders of other countries? Speaking in ways that diminish the value of other sovereignties. Regardless of the issues, which don't even seem serious, those are the real questions I would like to get answers to from those who support him. How is this unpresidential behavior acceptable if people care about living at peace with others home and abroad?
Biden may not have done anything to unify within the country, but he was respectful of other leaders.
Trump has the power to implement policies and due things that 50% of the country wants him to do. He is actively creating disunity and chaos in the process.
Just living down to his ranking as the worst president in history I guess
If there is any substance to what he rants about, why doesn't he say it in a way that might persuade people to his ideas? Instead he does the opposite, saying things in a way to draw anger and opposition from all except for his fan base who seems to love that behavior.
Why do you think he gets meaner at Christmas? And how do you feel about a president insulting and demeaning leaders of other countries? Speaking in ways that diminish the value of other sovereignties. Regardless of the issues, which don't even seem serious, those are the real questions I would like to get answers to from those who support him. How is this unpresidential behavior acceptable if people care about living at peace with others home and abroad?
Biden may not have done anything to unify within the country, but he was respectful of other leaders.
Trump has the power to implement policies and due things that 50% of the country wants him to do. He is actively creating disunity and chaos in the process.
Just living down to his ranking as the worst president in history I guess
Let's see, you asked four questions and then emphasized in bold that they are real questions you'd like to get answers from those who voted for him.
So, here we go.
Question 1..."Is there is any substance to what he rants about, why doesn't he say it in a way that might persuade people to his ideas?"
Yes, apparently there is substance to most things he says and I reject the premise that he's unable persuade people to his ideas. The fact he's won a presidential election twice should be enough evidence of that.
He got his tax cuts passed and will probably be extended. He's been given credit for torpedoing the garbage border bill passed by the Senate. He announced his tariff plan and already has had the Canadian PM and President of Mexico come meet with him on issues around that.
There are many other examples.
Heck, you just said 50% of the country wants him to do things he wants to do. Seems like he's doing a pretty good job persuading people.
He persuades people and has substance. It's just that you don't agree with it.
Question 2..."Why do you think he gets meaner at Christmas?"
I didn't realize he did. So, my answer is, I don't know.
Question 3..."And how do you feel about a president insulting and demeaning leaders of other countries?"
He often times makes me cringe with things he says. Many times I wish he wouldn't. And, then there are sometimes I'm glad he has shown that the USA isn't going to bend over for our adversaries and even to our allies to the extent that we have at times in the past.
Question 4.. "How is this unpresidential behavior acceptable if people care about living at peace with others home and abroad?"
I was at a Baltimore Ravens game a few weeks ago. Their quarterback often keeps the ball longer then most after a play breaks down when others would throw the ball away to kerp disaster from happening. There is a palpable tension in the stadium when a play develops that way, as the potential for a negative outcome is higher. You can hear fans mumble "get rid of it" even though theyve seen him before make something out of nothing. More often then something bad, something spectacular happens. If the season ended today he'd be the NFL's MVP for the second year in a row.
He's a high risk, high reward type of player. And right now the rewards greatly outweigh the risks.
With much good comes some bad. This is Trump.
In the long run, while I wish Trump would act more presidential, it's far from the most important thing. His actions and policies will have more impact than his mean tweets and posts.
And, actually, so far I do think his behavior has improved over last time.
What I do expect is that you'll continue to simply criticize something that comes from Trump or in some small rrmote way may shine a positive light on Trump.
Yes, I said that Gretzky as PM is silly, but you even said it was tongue in cheek. But I was the critical one?
As for Panama and Greenland, I was inquiring, not criticizing, about USA interests. You apparently don't see this as an issue.
Yes, I said that Gretzky as PM is silly, but you even said it was tongue in cheek. But I was the critical one?
As for Panama and Greenland, I was inquiring, not criticizing, about USA interests. You apparently don't see this as an issue.
The Canada idea apparently isn't as crazy as it sounds.
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Would love to see Elon as President however as an African American immigrant he can't legally run. Good thing Vance is such an all star