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I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
Quote“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/09/25/trump-dishes-to-his-psychiatrist-00058732
Tweety said:There really is no way no how the expiring tax cuts pass in 2017 won't be renewed next year. I've read figures that adds 5 trillion to the deficit by the 2030's. Fair enough in a trillion dollar economy 4 trillion might be acceptable over many years. Tariffs and the spending cuts might offset that figure.
Lots of people benefited from the 2017 cuts. We talked ad nauseam about them at the time. One issue is the covid years make it hard to analyze the effect of the cuts on the overall economy.
I would object to furthering tax cuts that lower revenue, particularly cuts to corporations that are having huge profits already, while some services are cut. Some of his tax cuts will benefit the working class such as not taxing tips, overtime or social security benefits. But to be honest the nitty gritty details that affect small business and big corporations and billionaires can get a bit confusing to someone like me.
Fair enough.
More from others than you, but I keep hearing how Trump wants to further enrich billionaires and lower their taxes. But I have yet to hear about what specifically he is proposing that benefit the wealthy.
No one seems to know. Without any thought they just believe in and repeat inaccurate Democrat and liberal media talking points.
Beerman said:Fair enough.
More from others than you, but I keep hearing how Trump wants to further enrich billionaires and lower their taxes. But I have yet to hear about what specifically he is proposing that benefit the wealthy.
No one seems to know. Without any thought they just believe in and repeat inaccurate Democrat and liberal media talking points.
It was pure campaign rhetoric. Harris was fact checked on this and proven wrong.
If you remember at the time I was against the tax cuts. I'm still against further tax cuts, but in a country reeling from inflation, I am not against him extending his tax cuts. The cost was and will continue to be to the deficit. Like I said at the time, it was amazing that during Obama's stimulus package years conservatives were extremely concerned about the deficit to the point the Tea Party was born and made it their focus. In 2017 and now where is the Tea Party?
Yes, I know we have a spending problem and perhaps now Trump will address it with his team unlike his first term. Both the people doing the slashing on his team are billionaires which concerns some people. In fact Trump has the wealthiest cabinet ever, again.
Katrina_24 said:are there any conservative/libertarian nursing organizations? I am so sick of being told there is no such thing as biology anymore. I would like to be part of an organization that supports actual science and respects autonomy.
What are your views about the science of immunity?
Katrina_24 said:That is a question with a possibly very long answer. I believe in immunity from certain viruses through infection, vaccination, genetics, etc.. are you referring to the covid shot or just general immunity?
Since you brought up vaccines, do think they were developed and tested using science?
"The billionaire investor and founder of the Japanese tech-investing firm promised in the joint announcement with Trump to create 100,000 jobs at a minimum focused on artificial intelligence and related infrastructure. The money will be deployed before the end of Trump's term.
My confidence level to the economy of the United States has tremendously increased with his victory," Son said. "President Trump is a double down president. I'm going to have to double down."
The Biden administration celebrated 200 billion in investments from the Asia Pacific. It's good that the Trump administration and the US economy is looking good as a place to invest. Japan has been a strong ally over the years, considering our past as enemies it's impressive. Also considering we didn't like the idea in the 80's of Japan buying up America it's good we can celebrate investments now. LOL
QuoteThe overwhelming majority of U.S. institutional investors believe President-elect Donald Trump will strengthen the U.S. economy, according to a new pulse survey released today by Edelman Smithfield.
In other Trump news Bannon suggests a loophole that would give Trump a third term.
Quote"Donald John Trump is going to raise his hand on the King James Bible and take the oath of office, his third victory and his second term,” Bannon said in a speech at the New York Young Republican Club's 112th annual gala.“Since it doesn't actually say consecutive" in the Constitution, Bannon continued, "I don't know, maybe we do it again in '28? Are you guys down for that? Trump '28?”
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/12/16/congress/trump-2028-00194535
Beerman said:But I have yet to hear about what specifically he is proposing that benefit the wealthy.
Trump seldom offers specifics about anything. He barely has an understanding of the issues, and he certainly never delves into the details. It's always "we'll take a look at that" or "we have a concept of a plan" or "we'll be making an announcement in 2 weeks". Remember infrastructure week, that never happened? Repeal and replace Obamacare?
I think this opinion piece by Aaron Rupar explains it very well.
https://www.publicnotice.co/p/trump-time-person-of-the-year-interview-2024
Quote"I don't care" is not generally what you want to hear from a president, especially when he's discussing plans to conduct militarized deportation raids in parts of the country that don't want them. But based on this interview, and on the entire rest of his political career, "I don't care" does seem to sum up Trump's approach to most issues that don't directly involve puffing up his ego.
After a decade at the center of Republican and American politics, Trump continues to barely pretend to understand the broad outlines, much less the nuances, of his own agenda. When he talks about abortion, or tariffs, or trans people, or concentration camps, or Ukraine, or Gaza, he cheerfully flatters himself and talks about how great he's going to make everything. But he offers few policy details, and when he does, those details are almost always conspiracy theories and lies.
In this interview, Trump veers back and forth between semi-conciliatory rhetoric and spine-chilling promises of atrocity without missing a beat, or, apparently, noticing any incongruity.
It's when Trump is being most "presidential" that he shows just how deep in his own derp he is — and how nonchalantly he spews lies and contemplates violence. Even when Trump dials himself down — or perhaps especially when he does — his blank malice is inescapable.
nursej22 said:Trump seldom offers specifics about anything. He barely has an understanding of the issues, and he certainly never delves into the details. It's always "we'll take a look at that" or "we have a concept of a plan" or "we'll be making an announcement in 2 weeks". Remember infrastructure week, that never happened? Repeal and replace Obamacare?
I think this opinion piece by Aaron Rupar explains it very well.
https://www.publicnotice.co/p/trump-time-person-of-the-year-interview-2024
Deflection.
He has offered specifics on the topic we were discussing.. They just don't match what you say he's going to do.
nursej22 said:Trump seldom offers specifics about anything
I agree somewhat and while perhaps off topic to the idea of giving breaks to the wealthy, it describes him well. The last few months of his campaign were a mess. Perhaps now he'll settle down, be honest and presidential, stop demonizing the press and government institutions and roll up his sleeves and deliver. I'll wait.
For example all through the campaign he said he was going to lower prices and didn't give specifics. Now he admits it's not going to be that easy to do. Big business and investors are confident in the economy, as are republicans, but your average Joe republican that voted for him needs to be set up for some disappointment. My opinion is the best we can hope for is prices don't continue to rise, but overall prices most likely aren't going to fall anytime soon. Of course real estate could bust and that would bring the housing market down at least.
QuoteAfter making inflation and the cost of groceries part of his campaign, President-elect Trump is starting to walk back some of his promises to lower prices. The panel discusses what's behind that change and Trump's other potentially extreme actions on immigration.
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There really is no way no how the expiring tax cuts pass in 2017 won't be renewed next year. I've read figures that adds 5 trillion to the deficit by the 2030's. Fair enough in a trillion dollar economy 4 trillion might be acceptable over many years. Tariffs and the spending cuts might offset that figure.
Lots of people benefited from the 2017 cuts. We talked ad nauseam about them at the time. One issue is the covid years make it hard to analyze the effect of the cuts on the overall economy.
I would object to furthering tax cuts that lower revenue, particularly cuts to corporations that are having huge profits already, while some services are cut. Some of his tax cuts will benefit the working class such as not taxing tips, overtime or social security benefits. But to be honest the nitty gritty details that affect small business and big corporations and billionaires can get a bit confusing to someone like me.