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I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can.  My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.  

He's not going away.

Haberman's book is out based on interviews.  I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting.  Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with.  LOL

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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/09/25/trump-dishes-to-his-psychiatrist-00058732

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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/09/special-counsel-obtained-search-warrant-for-donald-trumps-Twitter-account-00110484

What do you know, Musk was required to comply after he made a $350k donation to the Jack a Smith Special Prosecutor fund. 

Do you think that Trump's Tweets might give hints as to his frame of mind in the weeks leading up to his attempt to overthrow our government?

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Can anyone explain why Trump repeatedly describes Pence as liddle' ?

And what is the purpose of the apostrophe?

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nursej22 said:

Can anyone explain why Trump repeatedly describes Pence as liddle' ?

And what is the purpose of the apostrophe?

Trump is a bully. His use of those terms is likely simply an attempt to diminish his target. The apostrophe represents his casual misuse of the language. 

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Fulton County court clerk Che Alexander confirmed to reporters congregated in her office that there are 10 indictments from the grand jury on Monday night. She would not say who was indicted.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-fulton-county-georgia-08-14-23/index.html

 

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"The law has caught up with Donald Trump" per law professor Neal Katayl tonight on MSNBC.

Former President Trump + 18 others charged with racketeering and several conspiracy charges in 41 count indictment. Per Fanni Willis press conference, due in court by Friday, August 25th,  otherwise will be arrested. Prosecutors allege Trump and defendants engaged in "criminal enterprise" with 30 unindicted co-conspirators across state lines.

Guess it's Trumps get out of debate card??

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Donald Trump, former US president

Rudy Giuliani, Trump lawyer

Mark Meadows, White House chief of staff

John Eastman, Trump lawyer

Kenneth Chesebro, pro-Trump lawyer

Jeffrey Clark, top Justice Department official

Jenna Ellis, Trump campaign lawyer

Robert Cheeley, lawyer who promoted fraud claims

Mike Roman, Trump campaign official

David Shafer, Georgia GOP chair and fake elector

Shawn Still, fake GOP elector

Stephen Lee, pastor tied to intimidation of election workers

Harrison Floyd, leader of Black Voices for Trump

Trevian Kutti, publicist tied to intimidation of election workers

Sidney Powell, Trump campaign lawyer

Cathy Latham, fake GOP elector tied to Coffee County breach

Scott Hall, tied to Coffee County election system breach

Misty Hampton, Coffee County elections supervisor

Ray Smith, Trump campaign attorney

"The charges include False Statements and Solicitation of State Legislatures, high-ranking state officials, the creation and distribution of false electoral college documents, the harassment of election workers, the solicitation of Justice Department officials, the solicitation of then-Vice President Mike Pence, the unlawful breach of election equipment, and acts of obstruction. "

NY Times posting full indictment with annotations

Fox link: https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/08/CRIMINAL-INDICTMENT.pdf

Georgia's bail conditions very tough, especially if voids bail conditions....like witness intimidation.  Ironic Rudy Giuliani indicted under RICO charges while he was NY DA brought down several mobsters with those charges; will he flip?  Expected that many will flip to avoid a trial.

Fox: Trump indicted out of Georgia probe into alleged efforts to overturn 2020 election

I had to turn off Fox News after they featured Paul Manafort  and running on website Trumps Hannity interview to spin tonights indictment coverage.,

Home late after taking my doxie rescue to vet...... off to bedtime indictment reading.

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CNN 8/9/2023

Ex-federal judge and prominent conservative: 'There is no Republican Party
 

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J. Michael Luttig, a conservative retired federal judge and key adviser to former Vice President Mike Pence, declared on Wednesday that "there is no Republican Party" and said former President Donald Trump is even more dangerous than he was in the aftermath of the 2020 election.

"American democracy simply cannot function without two equally healthy and equally strong political parties. So today, in my view, there is no Republican Party to counter the Democratic Party in the country,” Luttig, who advised Pence on how to handle the January 6, 2021, election certification vote, told CNN's Poppy Harlow on "CNN This Morning.” "And for that reason, American democracy is in grave peril.”

Luttig, who holds bona fide conservative credentials with longstanding ties to the Supreme Court, has become increasingly outspoken in sharing his criticisms of the GOP, calling the party "spineless" in June over its continued support of Trump.

Interview link: https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09/politics/michael-luttig-conservative-judge-republicans-cnntv/index.html

 

PBS Newshour:

Retired judge says Trump 'corrupted American democracy'

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An influential group of Republican legal voices called for a Jan. 2024 trial date to be set for Donald Trump for his attempt to overturn the presidential election. The group included former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Michael Luttig, a retired federal judge and one of the nation's leading conservative legal minds. Judy Woodruff spoke with Luttig for her series, America at a Crossroads.

 

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I watched the PBS interview.  Some conservative voters should watch it.  

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Mark Meadows lawyers have submitted a request to move his Georgia trial to Federal court -guess doesn't want broadcast of the election fraud trial since GA permits cameras in the courtroom.

ABC News 8/15/23

Mark Meadows seeks to move Fulton County election case to federal court

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The filing from Meadows' attorney George Terwilliger and Atlanta-based attorney Joseph Englert is based on a federal law that they argue requires the removal of criminal proceedings brought in state court to the federal court system when someone is charged for actions they allegedly took as a federal official acting "under color" of their office....

..."Nothing Mr. Meadows is alleged in the indictment to have done is criminal per se: arranging Oval Office meetings, contacting state officials on the President's behalf, visiting a state government building, and setting up a phone call for the President," Terwilliger wrote in the filing. "One would expect a Chief of Staff to the President of the United States to do these sorts of things."...

 

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Georgia elections:   Believe the former President Trump or the current Governor Kemp??

 

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You guys that have been here through it all remember me saying "show me the proof of election fraud and that Trump won the Presidency, and I will deal with the ugly truth".  I've been waiting three years.  I can't wait to hear about his report that he's waited three years and after he was indicted before presenting it.  

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