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I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can.  My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.  

He's not going away.

Haberman's book is out based on interviews.  I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting.  Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with.  LOL

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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/09/25/trump-dishes-to-his-psychiatrist-00058732

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Crusades said:

Still doesn't explain how Trump is able to "manipulate genitals " with "dementia " LOL. 

Nah... you'll have to explain your own nonsense. 

Crusades said:

They just admitted they edited the interview and rationalized it. 

How does this make Trump a "liar"? 

It doesn't make Trump a liar, for you.  For the rest of us, Trump's misrepresentations are what make him a liar.  

Crusades said:

They just admitted they edited the interview and rationalized it. 

How does this make Trump a "liar"? 

Yep.  They showed about half of it.   I wonder why not releasing transcript.

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toomuchbaloney said:

Nah... you'll have to explain your own nonsense. 

It doesn't make Trump a liar, for you.  For the rest of us, Trump's misrepresentations are what make him a liar.  

So you are admitting lies are categorized by personal feeling? Not fact or evidence? 

Trump said they edited the video, 60 min admits they edited the video. Where's the lie? 

 

 

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Washington Post 10/22/24

Giuliani assets will transfer to Georgia election workers he defamed

The former Trump attorney must place cash, jewelry, his New York apartment and other assets into a receivership controlled by two former Georgia election workers.

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The former Trump attorney must place cash, jewelry, his New York apartment and other assets into a receivership controlled by two former Georgia election workers.

The 24-page ruling orders Giuliani to place the assets into a receivership within seven days. But U.S. District Court Judge Lewis J. Liman of New York ordered the "immediate turnover" of Giuliani's apartment on the Upper East Side, which was previously listed for sale.

Liman also orders Giuliani to take legal steps that would allow the former election workers, Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, to seek an estimated $2 million in legal fees that Giuliani has said he is owed by Trump's campaign organization and the Republican National Committee for his work leading Trump's post-2020 election legal challenges....

Freeman and Moss, who is her daughter, have testified that Giuliani's claim they rigged the election against Trump prompted a life-altering torrent of death threats and other racist abuse that forced them into hiding. The nearly $150 million claim awarded to them by a jury in December 2023 puts them at the top of the list of more than a dozen creditors seeking to collect from Giuliani, who has faced a litany of lawsuits and charges tied to his post-2020 work for Trump....

The judge ruled that the two women "are entitled as a matter of law" to pursue the legal fees owed to Giuliani and that there is "no risk the public could be misled into believing" Giuliani was suing Trump or his campaign. "The risk — if any — that the public would be misled could only from the Defendant himself,” Linman wrote, or others who seek to prevent Freeman and Moss from pursing "a claim for compensation that justly belongs, and is owed, to them.”...

 

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Trump defends right to make threats against FEMA Workers during 10/21/24 N.C. follow-up visit surveying Helene damage.

Aaron Rupar on X has Fox News video

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Asked about threats against FEMA workers (that he inspired), Trump basically says they had it coming

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1848402384902386020?

 

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Crusades said:

So you are admitting lies are categorized by personal feeling? Not fact or evidence? 

Trump said they edited the video, 60 min admits they edited the video. Where's the lie? 

 

 

What nonsense are you trying to attribute to me? 

I'm not going to argue with you about Trump's lies.  You don't care if he lies so what's the point? 

NRSKarenRN said:

Washington Post 10/22/24

Giuliani assets will transfer to Georgia election workers he defamed

The former Trump attorney must place cash, jewelry, his New York apartment and other assets into a receivership controlled by two former Georgia election workers.

 

So many people around Trump, doing Trump's bidding, end up in deep trouble with the law.  

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Beerman said:

Yep.  They showed about half of it.   I wonder why not releasing transcript.

Do you suppose that Fox releases all of the edited bits or transcripts of Trump's "interviews"? What kind of odd double standard are you concocting here? 

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toomuchbaloney said:

Do you suppose that Fox releases all of the edited bits or transcripts of Trump's "interviews"? What kind of odd double standard are you concocting here? 

Ah. The strawman 

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Crusades said:

Ah. The strawman 

Editing for me, but not for thee

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Crusades said:

Ah. The strawman 

You have no idea what these terms mean.  LOL

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"Certainly the former president is in the far-right area, he's certainly an authoritarian, admires people who are dictators — he has said that. So he certainly falls into the general definition of fascist, for sure," Kelly said.

Kelly, who first joined the Trump administration as homeland security secretary and later was White House chief of staff from July 2017 until early 2019, also said Trump had spoken positively about Adolf Hitler.

"He commented more than once that, you know, that Hitler did some good things, too,” Kelly said.

Former White House chief of staff John Kelly says Trump meets the definition of a 'fascist'

Trump: 'I Need the Kind of Generals That Hitler Had'

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In their book, The Divider: Trump in the White House, Peter Baker and Susan Glasser reported that Trump asked John Kelly, his chief of staff at the time, "Why can't you be like the German generals?” Trump, at various points, had grown frustrated with military officials he deemed disloyal and disobedient. (Throughout the course of his presidency, Trump referred to flag officers as "my generals.”) According to Baker and Glasser, Kelly explained to Trump that German generals "tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off.” This correction did not move Trump to reconsider his view: "No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him,” the president responded.

This week, I asked Kelly about their exchange. He told me that when Trump raised the subject of "German generals,” Kelly responded by asking, “‘Do you mean Bismarck's generals?’” He went on: "I mean, I knew he didn't know who Bismarck was, or about the Franco-Prussian War. I said, 'Do you mean the kaiser's generals? Surely you can't mean Hitler's generals? And he said, 'Yeah, yeah, Hitler's generals.’ I explained to him that Rommel had to commit suicide after taking part in a plot against Hitler.” Kelly told me Trump was not acquainted with Rommel.

This guy doesn't deserve the presidency.  

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