The Trump Thread

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I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can.  My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.  

He's not going away.

Haberman's book is out based on interviews.  I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting.  Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with.  LOL

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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/09/25/trump-dishes-to-his-psychiatrist-00058732

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toomuchbaloney said:

I've provided examples.  

It was never really a conversation and any pupose was exhausted long ago, you are just now giving up your attempt to argue about Trump's symptoms.  

Gas lighting is not your strong suit.  

I'd ask you to provide evidence and perhaps question your intelligence bit I'd rather not and you wouldn't produce any evidence anyway. 

Trump is bad......... continue....

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Beerman said:

Wierd and racist indeed.

It reminds me if when our current president said you couldn't shop at 7-11 unless you understood an Indian accent.

That's quite a flashback, thank you.  Unfortunately, Trump and his team provide us with this type of racist stuff today.  

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Crusades said:

I'd ask you to provide evidence and perhaps question your intelligence bit I'd rather not and you wouldn't produce any evidence anyway. 

Trump is bad......... continue....

You are right.  I'm not doing any research for you. It's not my problem that you don't know how to get your questions about medical indications for a procedure answered and insist that SN members provide you with the info that you want.  

Yes.  Trump is a bad candidate. 

toomuchbaloney said:

That's quite a flashback, thank you.  Unfortunately, Trump and his team provide us with this type of racist stuff today.  

Your post had nothing to do with "Trump and his team".

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Beerman said:

Wierd and racist indeed.

It reminds me if when our current president said you couldn't shop at 7-11 unless you understood an Indian accent.

We talked about that gaffe at the time. Kind of hard not to take a dig at Biden though isn't it?

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toomuchbaloney said:

You are right.  I'm not doing any research for you. It's not my problem that you don't know how to get your questions about medical indications for a procedure answered and insist that SN members provide you with the info that you want.  

Yes.  Trump is a bad candidate. 

I think that if you knew you would say. In consistency with your usual behavior, you would provide a lengthy post with references. 

Or you do know and do not want to say because of the indications of suck a medical proceedure and the reality it contains.  

And I wasn't asking you for information because I do not know. 

The indication would be for various reasons. Such as if a woman would like to have the fetus intact for funeral or grieving purposes. Or the intact fetus will have an autopsy and to prevent the potential of a live birth which may bring legal consequences due to the Born Alive Bill. Sometimes it's an act of "mercy " because the alternative is to dismember the fetus when it is alive. 

However there is zero indications to cause fetal demise (kill the fetus/feticide)  before it is removed from the mother to protect the life or health of the mother. 

 

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Beerman said:

Wierd and racist indeed.

It reminds me if when our current president said you couldn't shop at 7-11 unless you understood an Indian accent.

Or when Biden marveled about how impressed he was with Obama for being a presentable and articulate black man. A "dream" he said. 

And he didn't want his children to go to school in a "racial jungle". Or his formidable support against super predators..  

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Crusades said:

I think that if you knew you would say. In consistency with your usual behavior, you would provide a lengthy post with references. 

Or you do know and do not want to say because of the indications of suck a medical proceedure and the reality it contains.  

And I wasn't asking you for information because I do not know. 

The indication would be for various reasons. Such as if a woman would like to have the fetus intact for funeral or grieving purposes. Or the intact fetus will have an autopsy and to prevent the potential of a live birth which may bring legal consequences due to the Born Alive Bill. Sometimes it's an act of "mercy " because the alternative is to dismember the fetus when it is alive. 

However there is zero indications to cause fetal demise (kill the fetus/feticide)  before it is removed from the mother to protect the life or health of the mother. 

 

You want to talk about killing fetuses. Don't make that about me.  

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Beerman said:

Your post had nothing to do with "Trump and his team".

Except I, at minimum, implied that team Trump gives us examples of racist rhetoric and thinking regularly. That means that my post has something to do with Trump and his team.  All of that occurred in the Trump thread.  

Thanks for your critique though.  

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Crusades said:

Or when Biden marveled about how impressed he was with Obama for being a presentable and articulate black man. A "dream" he said. 

And he didn't want his children to go to school in a "racial jungle". Or his formidable support against super predators..  

Oh boy, another focus on the past as a way to avoid considering the blatant and current racism of the man, and his political team, that you intend to elevate to the presidency.  It makes it easier for you to support the straightforward racism of Team Trump by suggesting that other people are racist too. That's so common and tired.  

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Crusades said:

Or when Biden marveled about how impressed he was with Obama for being a presentable and articulate black man. A "dream" he said. 

And he didn't want his children to go to school in a "racial jungle". Or his formidable support against super predators..  

Given that settlers are indoctrinated from birth in the European tradition of white supremacy, neither of your examples comes as much of a surprise. Digging out of that hole is frequently embarrassing. I find it much more helpful to put peoples' words together with what they do before I decide that something's deliberately "racist".

Biden probably really said and did those things. He then turned around and took his political leadership from a highly qualified bicultural man, appointed a highly qualified Black woman to the SJC and took another highly qualified bicultural woman to be his top assistant as VP. What did trump do?

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heron said:

What did trump do?

Trumps rests on the economic gains of African Americans during his good economy.  I was looking for something to back that up, but opps.....

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"Setting aside the severe shock caused by the Covid pandemic, the absolute and relative economic status of African Americans improved under both presidents,” said Gary Burtless, an economist with the Brookings Institution, a Washington, D.C. think tank. "Nonetheless, looking closely at most of the economic indicators, I think we'd have to give the nod to economic progress achieved during the Biden years. The latest numbers suggest that the relative wage gains of workers in the lower ranks of the earnings distribution, including African Americans, have persisted up through the present.”

https://www.tampabay.com/news/2024/07/02/how-did-black-americans-do-economically-under-trump-biden/

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Donald Trump is on track to be the first president since Richard Nixon to go a full first term without selecting a Black nominee for a federal appeals court.

Just one of Trump's 53 confirmed appeals court judges is Hispanic and none are Black. 

Froom Bloomberg which I don't subscribe.  https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/no-black-judges-among-trumps-appeals-court-confirmations

He did designate an African American to African American Cilvil Rights Network, so there is that and that's decent of him.

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