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I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can.  My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.  

He's not going away.

Haberman's book is out based on interviews.  I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting.  Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with.  LOL

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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/09/25/trump-dishes-to-his-psychiatrist-00058732

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Crusades said:

 There was allot of discussion about how big the dressing was and claims that it was broken glass that cut Trump's ear. Now that the FBI has confirmed the obvious, that it has a bullet,  I guess the discussion can go back to the dressing. As if this takes away from being shot at. Apparently it's a worthy deflect for some. 

please excuse my sarcasm.  

"Worthy of deflection" LOL

The discussion can go wherever we want it to go.  For instance, we can still talk about the complete lack of transparency from the liar who was bleeding on the stage and the weird preference for cult members to dress like or adorn themselves like the cult leader does.  

Trump's ear doesn't resemble any kind of a gun shot wound that I've ever seen, and I've seen plenty.  That's OK though.  He's a well known liar and marketing wizard who had conned scores of people before he ever got himself elected.  His inability to be transparent about something as easy as an obvious injury is just good campaign material against him.  He invites the skepticism about his honesty.  

You used sarcasm? 

 

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Crusades said:

 There was allot of discussion about how big the dressing was and claims that it was broken glass that cut Trump's ear. Now that the FBI has confirmed the obvious, that it has a bullet,  I guess the discussion can go back to the dressing. As if this takes away from being shot at. Apparently it's a worthy deflect for some. 

please excuse my sarcasm.  

I've been called out so much for my sarcasm I've mostly stopped.  Mostly.  Written words are hard to interpret sometimes.   

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In this way, the bandage was a familiar message. It was, in fact, the message that, over the years has become one of Trump's most revisited messages: that he has been uniquely and unfairly hurt. Persecuted and prosecuted by any number of nefarious villains: the liberal left, the deep state, the activist judges, lowly poll workers, Dominion voting machines, Barack Obama, Joe Biden.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2024/07/19/trump-ear-bandage/

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Tweety said:

We've had some discussions about sarcasm and I've been misunderstood so often I try not to use it.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2024/07/19/trump-ear-bandage/

Sure. I can see that point. Except in this instant he was 100% shot at , live on TV and some are trying to minimize it. This time he really was a victim. So this time he was uniquely and unfairly hurt, most likely motivated by politics by a nefarious villian that tried to kill him. Yet still he's being accused of exaggerating his attempted murder because of his dressing size. 

Minimizes and down playing his attempted assisnation by questioning the dressing and if a bullet actually hit his ear

( there is a still photo that caught the actual bullet behind his head) 

in a way kind of gives him some credibility that perhaps some really are trying to "get him" when this was so obvious and people arec till trying to discredit him. 

I'm kind of surprised Trump himself hasn't tried to exaggerate the wound and/or   hyperinflate the attempted assassination. 

(Not saying Trump doesn't have a tendency to hyperinflate his victim staus) . 

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toomuchbaloney said:

"Worthy of deflection" LOL

The discussion can go wherever we want it to go.  For instance, we can still talk about the complete lack of transparency from the liar who was bleeding on the stage and the weird preference for cult members to dress like or adorn themselves like the cult leader does.  

Trump's ear doesn't resemble any kind of a gun shot wound that I've ever seen, and I've seen plenty.  That's OK though.  He's a well known liar and marketing wizard who had conned scores of people before he ever got himself elected.  His inability to be transparent about something as easy as an obvious injury is just good campaign material against him.  He invites the skepticism about his honesty.  

You used sarcasm? 

 

Perhaps we could talk about the cult like mentality that some may doubt that he was hit with a bullet when it hapoened on live TV and the FBI confirmed that it was a bullet and it was an assassination attempt and people still don't believe it happened? Or how the wound isn't big enough for them? 

How talking about dressing size and redundant medical reports only feeds the fire of conspiracy theorists. By people who constantly say everything else is a conspiracy. (The laptop.....) 

Yes I'm sure he somehow conned an attempted assination and wound to his ear. 

He doesn't have to con anyone. He was shot at on live TV. Another person died. Perhaps you should conclude that until you get an autopsy report.... 

Since speculation is now acceptable, perhaps he really is unfairly persecuted? I mean he was almost killed and peoplevare trying to minimize it. LOL 

Yes. I'm sure that you have seen several gun shotcwounds from 100 of feet away with the exact conditions by a bullet shot from a AR . I guess you are more qualified than the FBI? 

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FBI says Trump was indeed struck by bullet during assassination attempt

https://apnews.com/article/trump-bullet-shrapnel-ronny-jackson-christopher-wray-cb780b9d1a078f0be4191682e75101cf

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Crusades said:

Sure. I can see that point. Except in this instant he was 100% shot at , live on TV and some are trying to minimize it. This time he really was a victim. So this time he was uniquely and unfairly hurt, most likely motivated by politics by a nefarious villian that tried to kill him. Yet still he's being accused of exaggerating his attempted murder because of his dressing size. 

Minimizes and down playing his attempted assisnation by questioning the dressing and if a bullet actually hit his ear

( there is a still photo that caught the actual bullet behind his head) 

in a way kind of gives him some credibility that perhaps some really are trying to "get him" when this was so obvious and people arec till trying to discredit him. 

I'm kind of surprised Trump himself hasn't tried to exaggerate the wound and/or   hyperinflate the attempted assassination. 

(Not saying Trump doesn't have a tendency to hyperinflate his victim staus) . 

LOL

Some are trying to minimize it you say? Oh no. Am I minimizing that tiny injury (that now is apparently fully healed) in ways similar to you minimizing Trump's attempt to overthrow the 2020 election? Or am I minimizing that injury in the same way you minimize a Trump's disqualifying character flaws and mental illness? 

Trump could get away from accusations by releasing the medical report.  Apparently he isn't interested in the voters knowing the extent or nature of that injury.  That fits with his preference for creating his own narrative, a common trait in pathological liars and narcissists. 

Trump discredits himself multiple times everyday. He's a liar. 

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Crusades said:

Sure. I can see that point. Except in this instant he was 100% shot at , live on TV and some are trying to minimize it. This time he really was a victim. So this time he was uniquely and unfairly hurt, most likely motivated by politics by a nefarious villian that tried to kill him. Yet still he's being accused of exaggerating his attempted murder because of his dressing size. 

Minimizes and down playing his attempted assisnation by questioning the dressing and if a bullet actually hit his ear

( there is a still photo that caught the actual bullet behind his head) 

in a way kind of gives him some credibility that perhaps some really are trying to "get him" when this was so obvious and people arec till trying to discredit him. 

I'm kind of surprised Trump himself hasn't tried to exaggerate the wound and/or   hyperinflate the attempted assassination. 

(Not saying Trump doesn't have a tendency to hyperinflate his victim staus) . 

I get it.  There's a contingent of conspiracy theorists that believe it him being hit was fake, but I haven't heard much from him.  Apparently his doctors said he needed a bandage and there really isn't any easy way to cover the ear so if there was "a lot of discussion about how big it was" meh, tell them to cover their ear and see how they look.   

At the end of the day it was a minor injury and he escaped a horrifying outcome.  Sometimes a close call with death humbles people, makes them appreciate life and loved ones, gives them a sense of gratitude and kindness.  

I think the followers showing support with their bandages though are worthy to be mocked because they looked silly.  They cheered and had the red hats, they should have stopped there.  LOL

 

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toomuchbaloney said:

LOL

Some are trying to minimize it you say? Oh no. Am I minimizing that tiny injury (that now is apparently fully healed) in ways similar to you minimizing Trump's attempt to overthrow the 2020 election? Or am I minimizing that injury in the same way you minimize a Trump's disqualifying character flaws and mental illness? 

Trump could get away from accusations by releasing the medical report.  Apparently he isn't interested in the voters knowing the extent or nature of that injury.  That fits with his preference for creating his own narrative, a common trait in pathological liars and narcissists. 

Trump discredits himself multiple times everyday. He's a liar. 

Perhaps he considers his voters smart enough to watch the video of him being shot then examining the photos post injury? 

What's your theory that he doesn't release a medical report? 🤔 

A medical Dr gave a report and that wasn't good enough either. Apparently  nedical credentials are determined by  political preference. 🙄 

This "narrative"  is 100% verified a per the video. 

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Pic Shows Bullet Flying Past Trump?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/picture-trump-bullet/

I thought it was the MAGA that denied facts? 

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Tweety said:

I get it.  There's a contingent of conspiracy theorists that believe it him being hit was fake, but I haven't heard much from him.  Apparently his doctors said he needed a bandage and there really isn't any easy way to cover the ear so if there was "a lot of discussion about how big it was" meh, tell them to cover their ear and see how they look.   

At the end of the day it was a minor injury and he escaped a horrifying outcome.  Sometimes a close call with death humbles people, makes them appreciate life and loved ones, gives them a sense of gratitude and kindness.  

I think the followers showing support with their bandages though are worthy to be mocked because they looked silly.  They cheered and had the red hats, they should have stopped there.  LOL

 

Yes!! These people with the ridiculous bandages over their ears deserve to be mocked to the highest degree!! Looool. 

I saw some people mocking them by putting maxi pads over their ears!! 

I don't see the point of questioning an attempted assassination. He was shot at. We all saw it. He very narrowly missed being dead. 

I don't care if it's Trump. They attempted assassination doesn't change the fact that he's the worst candidate in the history of our nation.

We should all agree that is horrific that someone would attempt that. And that the security was inadequate. 

Sympathy bandages were a little silly...

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In another universe, a presidential candidate is wounded in an assassination attempt, cooperates with the Secret Service, and quickly exits the area, staying low to minimize being a target. Later that day, an official medical report is issued jointly by the hospital and candidate spokesperson. Exam and testing results are provided, as well as condition. The candidate appears a couple of days later at a gathering, where attendees are wearing a ribbon recognizing the person who lost their life during the assassination attempt. The candidate calls for a moment of silence, then urges attendees to make a donation to a charitable fund designated by the deceased's family. 
 

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nursej22 said:

In another universe, a presidential candidate is wounded in an assassination attempt, cooperates with the Secret Service, and quickly exits the area, staying low to minimize being a target. Later that day, an official medical report is issued jointly by the hospital and candidate spokesperson. Exam and testing results are provided, as well as condition. The candidate appears a couple of days later at a gathering, where attendees are wearing a ribbon recognizing the person who lost their life during the assassination attempt. The candidate calls for a moment of silence, then urges attendees to make a donation to a charitable fund designated by the deceased's family. 
 

Apparently Biden called the family to offer condolences and they refused to talk to him.  Understandable I guess.  I saw a Facebook post by the daughter the next day saying the mainstream media wasn't going to say anything about her father.  I know Trump supporters tend to not like mainstream media, but hopefully she found some comfort in being wrong.  Her father was hailed a hero.

I guess by now Trump himself called the family.  

 

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Crusades said:

Perhaps he considers his voters smart enough to watch the video of him being shot then examining the photos post injury? 

What's your theory that he doesn't release a medical report? 🤔 

A medical Dr gave a report and that wasn't good enough either. Apparently  nedical credentials are determined by  political preference. 🙄 

This "narrative"  is 100% verified a per the video. 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/picture-trump-bullet/

I thought it was the MAGA that denied facts? 

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I watched it happen live.  I'm not certain why you are so triggered by this.  

My theory is that Trump didn't release a medical report because he's a liar and propagandist.  That's what the evidence suggests.  Otherwise the release would have been immediate with a press briefing.  He was lucky.  Why not just be transparent?  

What facts did I deny? There were 8 bullets fired in the direction of Trump.  One of them was captured in that very cool image.  No one is denying there were bullets flying around endangering Trump and the attendees.  The FBI recently released a one sentence statement indicating that, at minimum, a bullet fragment struck Trump.  They didn't say how they determined that.  

https://apnews.com/article/trump-bullet-shrapnel-ronny-jackson-christopher-wray-cb780b9d1a078f0be4191682e75101cf

It's interesting that apparently other tests were done but none of the results were reported either.  

It is kind of interesting that having a near death experience didn't seem to make Trump moderate his messaging or move to a more moderate campaign focusing more on policy than pretty grievance.  That was the idea forwarded at the convention.  Apparently Trump is not up to that.  

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