I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
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Crusades said:
You can allocate Christian to not Christian as you wish.
Yes and Jesus died on the cross for his sins.
I'm not saying Trump is or isn't Christian, just that it's not my place to decide. That's Jesus' job.
However it's completely ridiculous to claim he said "I'm not Christian" then ask a group of Christians to vote for him. What? 😆
Nope. Back to Bible study you go. Lack of discernment will have you believing the lies of a conman.
Have you ever heard of a slip of the tongue? Trump has verbal gaffes all of the time. His speech patterns are often include nonsensical word salad and associated looseness. He misspeaks regularly and clearly struggles with some pronunciations and word formation in his public appearances. No matter, what Trump says doesn't actually matter to many of his voters anyway.
Crusades said:
I guess we can go back to talking about his dressing then?
Or the copy cat dressings on his devoted fans ears. LOL
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Tweety said:
He clearly laid out the agenda Christians want to hear...against abortion, against support for transgendered children, against Critical race theory, etc. I get why they would vote for him, I just wish they would admit it's the agenda and stop pretending he's a Christian because if they think that they are being conned.
In my opinion of course.
Agreed.
Trump knows marketing. He is an accomplished conman.
I think that some of the Christians are conned and some of them think they can hide behind "faith" and gas light the rest of us about who Trump really is and what he really stands for, like they do their congregations and followers.
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Crusades said:
Sure "let he who is without sin cast the first stone...".
Who is casting stones? Examining someone's fruit of the Spirit is not equivalent to casting stones, it's exactly what Christiansare instructed to do. You are confused about the New Testament teachings.
He appeared last night and again today without a dressing. And in a weeks time, his wound is completely healed with an intact ear. It's a miracle!
It really is miraculous to me not that he's healed but that the bullet came so close to killing him. He truly is extremely lucky. People say that God saved him, but that doesn't make sense because then God killed that other guy instead.
toomuchbaloney said:
Who is casting stones?
Me.
I'm casting stones and passing judgement. He's a con man, a convicted felon, an adulterer and a liar for starters. I am none of those things. Am I a sinner? Not on a daily basis that I can tell, but I do fall short of perfection and sainthood for sure.
I do have a past where I've needed people to forgive me and forgive myself, and I've made mistakes. But on a daily basis, I'm honest, hardworking, care about people and am not petty. Trump shows no remorse or signs of changing for the better, so I'm casting stones.
Then again I'm not a Christian and don't have to live by the "ignore the sins that other people are doing because I'm a sinner too".
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Tweety said:
It really is miraculous to me not that he's healed but that the bullet came so close to killing him. He truly is extremely lucky. People say that God saved him, but that doesn't make sense because then God killed that other guy instead.
Me.
I'm casting stones and passing judgement. He's a con man, a convicted felon, an adulterer and a liar for starters. I am none of those things. Am I a sinner? Not on a daily basis that I can tell, but I do fall short of perfection and sainthood for sure.
I do have a past where I've needed people to forgive me and forgive myself, and I've made mistakes. But on a daily basis, I'm honest, hardworking, care about people and am not petty. Trump shows no remorse or signs of changing for the better, so I'm casting stones.
Then again I'm not a Christian and don't have to live by the "ignore the sins that other people are doing because I'm a sinner too".
Trump was lucky on that stage that day.
I don't think that listing Trump's earned descriptors and describing his fruit is the same as casting stones. You aren't accusing Trump of something that you are also guilty of. Casting stones is kind of an archaic way to say someone is projecting their flaws or misdeeds into another, isn't it?
Yeah all of us sin and fall short. Believers pray for forgiveness from God as well as from loved ones when we've stumbled. That's something Trump says he's never done.
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The ads against Trump are brutal. This is a year old ad. It's hard for Trump when film makers campaign against him independently of the DNC or their candidate.
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Crusades said:
Ypu literally have said Trump is Hitler, that he is a cult leader with millions of cult members who vote the same as supremist and that Trump will put people in concentration camps, take away their birthcontrol and force pregnancies. That he was responsible for thousands of COVID deaths. Also that he is a fascist and a threat to our democracy. Your cognitively intact president said it was time to put Trump in a "bullseye ". Trump imisleadi people about an election and said to "peaceful and patriotically make your voices heard", He's guilty of an insurrection. Yet nobody talks about only a few days later a man literally puts Trump in a "bullseye" And you have nothing to say abput that incitement to assination politically violent rhetoric?
Are you claiming you didn't say anything like this?
Hitler killed 6 million Jews. You say that Trump is comparable to Hitler. If someone assisinated Hitler. That would have been great and would have saved millions of lives.
But you condemn the political violence against Trump. Which means that the left Hitler propaganda is just that.
Almost forgot. Then there's a marked deflection around if Trump was actually hit with a bullet and the size of a dressing? What's that about propaganda?
I literally have compared Trump to Hitler and Mussolini. Yes, Trump is a pretty bad candidate with some terrible history and alarming plans for the future. On top of all of that he's a pathological liar with NPD.
You've circled back to the republican gunman getting his inspiration from liberals again. That's funny for someone so sensitive about Trump's speech on 010621.
Are you claiming that I've used violent imagery or inciting language? It sounds like that's what you are doing?
Yes, apparently you believe that political assassination is OK if the person is bad enough. No, your logic and memory are bad. I don't agree with political violence even when it involves Hitler. I've started this over and over but you seem to be unable to grasp the meaning.
To cover all of the bases you ended up on the mystery about why the presidential candidate has concealed the medical report related to his injury and why he needed that big bandage for such a minor wound. What a nice way to end. I'll be thinking about the people who taped "bandages" to their right ear at the convention like the politicians who dressed like Trump and attended his trial. I'll be thinking about what cults look like.
It really is miraculous to me not that he's healed but that the bullet came so close to killing him. He truly is extremely lucky. People say that God saved him, but that doesn't make sense because then God killed that other guy instead.
My bad. Me declaring near instaneous healing of a 2 cm cartilage wound a miracle was sarcasm.
I literally have compared Trump to Hitler and Mussolini. Yes, Trump is a pretty bad candidate with some terrible history and alarming plans for the future. On top of all of that he's a pathological liar with NPD.
You've circled back to the republican gunman getting his inspiration from liberals again. That's funny for someone so sensitive about Trump's speech on 010621.
Are you claiming that I've used violent imagery or inciting language? It sounds like that's what you are doing?
Yes, apparently you believe that political assassination is OK if the person is bad enough. No, your logic and memory are bad. I don't agree with political violence even when it involves Hitler. I've started this over and over but you seem to be unable to grasp the meaning.
To cover all of the bases you ended up on the mystery about why the presidential candidate has concealed the medical report related to his injury and why he needed that big bandage for such a minor wound. What a nice way to end. I'll be thinking about the people who taped "bandages" to their right ear at the convention like the politicians who dressed like Trump and attended his trial. I'll be thinking about what cults look like.
The motive of the try hard assassin is not known yet. He's a "registered republican" but allegedly make a donation to a Democrat political group.
Since you are speculating, let's explore behaviors and see if they match up with your assessment for a "cult victim" MAGA extremist.
It's very unlikely a cult member will attempt to assassinate the cult leader. It's very unlikely a MAGA would attempt to kill Trump.
We know how people can be radicalized by false information and being told to peacfully and patriotically make their voices heard. So do you think it's unlikely for this person to listen to the "Trump is Hitler and a threat to democracy and will put people in concentration camps and forced pregnancy centers" and just a few days prior the POTUS says to put Trump in a 'bullseye " ; none of this could be what motivated the try hard assassin? Or swayed his "republican ways"? Loool
Just some liberal hypocrisy. However we really should deflect to the size of Trump's dressing , downplay his injury and lie about possible other causes than a bullet hitting Trump's ear. Then ponder on a medical report that is not necessary because the injury happened live on television. Then rejecting Dr Jacksons medical assessment? Due to some sort of millitary disgrace that has nothing to do with his credentials as a nedical Dr. Who's still licensed to practice medicine? While at the same time accusing everyone else as conspiracy theorists. Ritch.
It must have been disappointing for you when the Obama administration killed Osama Bin Laden? You know? Being against political violence even against Hitler. Let me guess? That was perfectly fine because Obama is a Democrat? However killing Sadam Hussain was terrible because conservative Bush was behind it?
Yes I would 100% be in support of killing someone like Hitler to save millions of lives. Apparently you wouldn't? Considering the bar is low for probably speculation, I may conclude this links you to Hitler more than any distorted propaganda links Trump to Hitler.
One of Hitler's first actions were to regulate fire ars then disarm the general population. Trump definitely isn't doing that but Biden is.
Some Nazi supremist may have or may have not voted for Trump and that makes him guiltily by association? Well you said you would be against the assination of Hitler, so what guilt do you bear from that association.?
Must have occurred during my sabbatical from news and this site, but have it if someone stopped you from talking about it.
There was allot of discussion about how big the dressing was and claims that it was broken glass that cut Trump's ear. Now that the FBI has confirmed the obvious, that it has a bullet, I guess the discussion can go back to the dressing. As if this takes away from being shot at. Apparently it's a worthy deflect for some.
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Nope. Back to Bible study you go. Lack of discernment will have you believing the lies of a conman.
Have you ever heard of a slip of the tongue? Trump has verbal gaffes all of the time. His speech patterns are often include nonsensical word salad and associated looseness. He misspeaks regularly and clearly struggles with some pronunciations and word formation in his public appearances. No matter, what Trump says doesn't actually matter to many of his voters anyway.
Or the copy cat dressings on his devoted fans ears. LOL