I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
Trump's injury was likely not a gunshot injury. It is most likely secondary to flying debris. Glass from a shattered teleprompter is a possibility.
While his injury may have been caused by debris, I haven't yet seen evidence of the teleprompter to Trump's right being shattered. It well could have been, but had it been shattered, I would further expect there would be additional injuries other than just an ear. In some photos that I have seen, there's a distinct notch in the outer portion of Trump's ear and this easily could be where a bullet could have hit his ear. In any case, Trump was in the direct line of fire and very easily could have died during the incident.
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akulahawkRN said:
Ideally scientists use the scientific process, but they can very much be swayed by politics and/or public opinion to shape their output. They're only human. However, Congress does delegate certain rulemaking authority to agencies like the FDA and HHS, among the many others. However, those agencies may NOT stray outside what they are authorized to do. Ambiguity in the enabling (and other) statutes is where executive agencies can try to use their rulemaking authority to expand their power. Under Chevron that was allowable. Now it isn't.
I think that it's a politically biased and motivated contention that there is significant straying outside authority and instead an authoritarian preference for some micromanagement in certain areas.
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akulahawkRN said:
While his injury may have been caused by debris, I haven't yet seen evidence of the teleprompter to Trump's right being shattered. It well could have been, but had it been shattered, I would further expect there would be additional injuries other than just an ear. In some photos that I have seen, there's a distinct notch in the outer portion of Trump's ear and this easily could be where a bullet could have hit his ear. In any case, Trump was in the direct line of fire and very easily could have died during the incident.
If it was a bullet injury I would expect greater injury. We would have a better idea if Trump was both more transparent and more credible.
Trump was absolutely in the line of fire, the kid tried to kill him. He got off 8 shots before he was neutralized. It's still unclear if it was Trump who made the decision to take the stage when it was known that there was a potential threat. It certainly would be a unusual thing for the SS to do, but they have been missing some expectations for awhile now.
Then Trump put himself back into a potential line of fire a couple more times after the initial shots and injury. Secret Service didn't seem to have control of much that day.
Then Trump put himself back into a potential line of fire a couple more times after the initial shots and injury. Secret Service didn't seem to have control of much that day.
I thought this the first time I saw the video. He seemed to be putting all the SS agents as well as himself at risk. I never heard though, did he get his shoes back?
Another question I've had is why do an open air event with so many unsecured viewpoints? Is it because it was cheap? I would think indoor venues would be more secure.
"Christians, get out and vote! Just this time – you won't have to do it any more,” the Republican former president said on Friday night at a rally hosted in West Palm Beach, Florida, by the far-right advocacy group Turning Point Action.
"You know what? It'll be fixed! It'll be fine. You won't have to vote any more, my beautiful Christians.”
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At that point, with a slight shake of his head and his right hand pressed against the left side of his chest, Trump said, "I'm not Christian.” But he added: "I love you. Get out – you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote.”
Why wouldn't people need to vote again in 4 years of Trump is elected?
This type of rhetoric is evidence that Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the power of the presidency again.
I wonder if that was a slip of the tongue for the philandering felon to admit that he wasn't a Christian. It won't matter. The Trump Christians will likely just explain it away and laugh it off.
Why wouldn't people need to vote again in 4 years of Trump is elected?
This type of rhetoric is evidence that Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the power of the presidency again.
I wonder if that was a slip of the tongue for the philandering felon to admit that he wasn't a Christian. It won't matter. The Trump Christians will likely just explain it away and laugh it off.
Oh my word. I was prepared to say he probably meant they won't have to vote for HIM ever again. But that's not it because then he goes on and mentions a "fix" and says you won't have to vote anymore.
As far as "I'm not Christian", if you listen to the actual clip, it's possible to hear "I'm a Christian..." Because I think he thinks that he really is. The people he's surrounded by call themselves Christian and that's who his examples are. Sort of like Richard Dawkins (obviously from a completely different worldview than trumpers) now saying he's a "cultural Christian". Wanting (some of) the fruit but not the labor.
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mtmkjr said:
Oh my word. I was prepared to say he probably meant they won't have to vote for HIM ever again. But that's not it because then he goes on and mentions a "fix" and says you won't have to vote anymore.
As far as "I'm not Christian", if you listen to the actual clip, it's possible to hear "I'm a Christian..." Because I think he thinks that he really is. The people he's surrounded by call themselves Christian and that's who his examples are. Sort of like Richard Dawkins (obviously from a completely different worldview than trumpers) now saying he's a "cultural Christian". Wanting (some of) the fruit but not the labor.
Trump cult members and apologists will definitely argue that he's only talking about voting for him and that he said that he is a Christian. They believe Trump over most anything else. There's definitely little to no evidence that Trump is a Christian.
Trump cult members and apologists will definitely argue that he's only talking about voting for him and that he said that he is a Christian. They believe Trump over most anything else. There's definitely little to no evidence that Trump is a Christian.
I showed my husband the clip. He's not a Trump fan in any way. He heard him say "Ima" Christian, because he was trying to identify that himself with them in that moment.
Doesn't really change anything - whether he calls himself one or not doesn't make him one.
The other comments should be a wake up call, but it's no different than other truly scary rambling comments he makes that totally disrespect the Democratic values of our country - constitutional order, free and fair election process, equal branches of government all of our founding principles.
I showed my husband the clip. He's not a Trump fan in any way. He heard him say "Ima" Christian, because he was trying to identify that himself with them in that moment.
Doesn't really change anything - whether he calls himself one or not doesn't make him one.
The other comments should be a wake up call, but it's no different than other truly scary rambling comments he makes that totally disrespect the Democratic values of our country - constitutional order, free and fair election process, equal branches of government all of our founding principles.
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mtmkjr said:
I showed my husband the clip. He's not a Trump fan in any way. He heard him say "Ima" Christian, because he was trying to identify that himself with them in that moment.
Doesn't really change anything - whether he calls himself one or not doesn't make him one.
The other comments should be a wake up call, but it's no different than other truly scary rambling comments he makes that totally disrespect the Democratic values of our country - constitutional order, free and fair election process, equal branches of government all of our founding principles.
The republican candidate is a threat to our republic.
Trump cult members and apologists will definitely argue that he's only talking about voting for him and that he said that he is a Christian. They believe Trump over most anything else. There's definitely little to no evidence that Trump is a Christian.
Who determines who is a Christian? You? LOL
Perhaps you should leave that to Jesus.
Yes. Trump is a sinner. However a Christian yourself, you would know that Jesus loves all, even sinners. Heck, he was crucified for our sins.
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While his injury may have been caused by debris, I haven't yet seen evidence of the teleprompter to Trump's right being shattered. It well could have been, but had it been shattered, I would further expect there would be additional injuries other than just an ear. In some photos that I have seen, there's a distinct notch in the outer portion of Trump's ear and this easily could be where a bullet could have hit his ear. In any case, Trump was in the direct line of fire and very easily could have died during the incident.