The Supreme Court has overruled Roe v. Wade, the 1973 landmark decision establishing the right to abortion.

[Julie]

This final decision ends constitutional protection for abortion, returning the rights to state legislatures.

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In a historic and far-reaching decision, the U.S. Supreme Court officially reversed Roe v. Wade on Friday, declaring that the constitutional right to abortion, upheld for nearly a half century, no longer exists.

Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, ending right to abortion upheld for decades

Do you think the Supreme Court made the right decision or gone too far?

[heron, ASN, RN]

On 6/30/2022 at 8:37 AM, SunCityInsPhysical said:

It's 2022 and Planned Parenthood has been in Business since the 1950s  along with Reproduction education in the school system. How sad that in 60+ years the number of 'needed' abortions annually keeps going UP.  How many of those are really due to life or death risk to the mother or for genetic anomalies of the fetus?

Lack of access to prevention is a farce. Every school across the country can be an access point for contraceptives but also should be working WITH students and parents (a Village)to educate, monitor, assess  the effectiveness of what is being taught, intervene The goal should be graduates who are prepared, stable and capable of managing themselves, (self discipline) living a healthy lifestyle, emotionally, financially ready for becoming parents. 

My job as a child was to participate and prepare myself for adulthood and if emotionally and financially capable to become a parent. It took me 5 pregnancies. My job as a parent was to bring my son up the same way and I did. He's 37 and is now in a position where he is ready and desires to marry and have a family. 

If Planned Parenthood and those who defend or support it really want to do some good for women how about developing a universal action plan working with Public Health agencies, insurers, churches etc. to truly assist women of all ages in planning how and when they become capable, responsible parents. Currently good healthy messages aren't getting through. Young women are looking for love, having casual sex, are being exploited and targeted by media and commerce, Young Boys to old men who havent acquired self control or refuse to.

There is no escaping the consequences of our actions. Each person must bear the responsibility for their education and actions. 

This revisit of Roe vs. Wade is a sad testimony of our failure to be responsible. 

This is on each of us. Our actions or lack there of got us to this point.

Apathy, wearing blinders and other f actors have worked hand in hand to bring us to this tipping point. 

The court shouldn't have had to do this. 

So everyone who's out their protesting, this is your wake up call. 

Be responsible. Be respectful of youself and others. Let's make our goal reducing the need for abortions. 

Sorry this was so long, but, after watching every news channel, I failed to see or hear anyone voicing these points. 

 

Umm … you have no clue. Planned parenthood goes back over a hundred years. The number of abortions has declined over 50% since Roe v Wade was decided in the 70’s. (That’s according to CDC surveillance published in MMWR IN 2020.) I can’t copy/paste on my phone, but the info is easily accessible at the CDC website and any sources that include the history of birth control. You, or your scriptwriters, need to do some homework.

Unless, of course, you’re deliberately posting misinformation - which is a whole ‘nother  thread.

[heron, ASN, RN]

On 7/1/2022 at 7:07 PM, VivaLasViejas said:

Thank you. The Bill of Rights speaks of the right to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That includes the unborn! 

Interesting that “liberty and the pursuit of happiness” seems to be left out of these discussions.

Then there is “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof …” The definition of what constitutes a separate life entitled to protection by the state is almost purely a religious/philosophical one. The forced pregnancy movement seeks to enshrine their personal religious beliefs into civil law, thus forcing those beliefs into all those who do not share them. NOPE.

[Nurse Pompom]

On 6/24/2022 at 12:52 PM, Julie said:

This final decision ends constitutional protection for abortion, returning the rights to state legislatures.

Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, ending right to abortion upheld for decades

Do you think the Supreme Court made the right decision or gone too far?

People who are OK with this news probably are OK with same sex marriages being taken down, right to bear arms, right to freedom of speech and so on. I think it is sad that the separation of church of state isn't a reality. I mean it's 2022 and we are still being lead by santa claus type beliefs? It's depressing, but I shouldn't get too depressed or too sick, I have no rights over my own body.

[Mommavik, ADN]

I totally agree! This is ridiculous, and although I personally would only abort a child if absolutely necessary, I support any woman's right to do what she and her doctor feel is right for her to do. That said,  this is giving a great opportunity for those who want to control our rights. I have already said that it wouldn't be far until women having an abortion would be arrested, or pregnant women could be arrested for doing things that could harm the fetus. I recently read that THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED, even before Roe vs Wade was reversed!  One woman was jailed after she fell down the stairs at home, went to the hospital, the doctor there felt her concern indicated she wanted to harm her child. She spent 2 days in jail before being released, SMH. Numerous cases of women who have had abortions or having had a miscarriage being charged with fetacide or other charges when abortion was legal due to Roe vs Wade.  One woman was convicted after a miscarriage. She went to the hospital because of severe cramps and bleeding but a child couldn't be found. It was later found in a dumpster. She was charged AND convicted of fetacide (for taking an abortion pill even though none was found in her system; and prosecuters  claimed the child was born alive and she left it. Doctors said that the fetus was about 24 weeks, and was stillborn) She was sentenced to 20 years in prison Her sentence was overturned after 1 year in prison.  Many other cases are on the news. These women, many of whom are already marginalized, have their lives totally ruined by these accusations. Being arrested causes job loss, which causes loss of home. Other children in the home must go to other family members or foster care if there aren't any willing to step up.  Once in foster care, it isn't easy for a mother to get them back, especially since she now has to get a job, earn enough to get into another home and show she can support them.  This is AFTER going through one of the worst things a woman can go through! We need to fight to have this corrected! There is a 10 year old incest victim who has had to travel out of state to get the abortion she needs. Her home state doesn't care that her body is in no way mature enough to carry a child to term. She has been refused this medical care. Where does it stop? What can we do as women and as nurses?

[heron, ASN, RN]

2 hours ago, Mommavik said:

I totally agree! This is ridiculous, and although I personally would only abort a child if absolutely necessary, I support any woman's right to do what she and her doctor feel is right for her to do. That said,  this is giving a great opportunity for those who want to control our rights. I have already said that it wouldn't be far until women having an abortion would be arrested, or pregnant women could be arrested for doing things that could harm the fetus. I recently read that THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED, even before Roe vs Wade was reversed!  One woman was jailed after she fell down the stairs at home, went to the hospital, the doctor there felt her concern indicated she wanted to harm her child. She spent 2 days in jail before being released, SMH. Numerous cases of women who have had abortions or having had a miscarriage being charged with fetacide or other charges when abortion was legal due to Roe vs Wade…

… We need to fight to have this corrected! There is a 10 year old incest victim who has had to travel out of state to get the abortion she needs. Her home state doesn't care that her body is in no way mature enough to carry a child to term. She has been refused this medical care. Where does it stop? What can we do as women and as nurses?

Vote.

[chare]

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[heron, ASN, RN]

I don’t have a source, but I think I remember hearing about this case a while (years?) back.

[chare]

Source?

2 hours ago, Mommavik said:

... I have already said that it wouldn't be far until women having an abortion would be arrested, or pregnant women could be arrested for doing things that could harm the fetus. I recently read that THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED, even before Roe vs Wade was reversed!  One woman was jailed after she fell down the stairs at home, went to the hospital, the doctor there felt her concern indicated she wanted to harm her child. She spent 2 days in jail before being released, SMH. Numerous cases of women who have had abortions or having had a miscarriage being charged with fetacide or other charges when abortion was legal due to Roe vs Wade.  One woman was convicted after a miscarriage. She went to the hospital because of severe cramps and bleeding but a child couldn't be found. It was later found in a dumpster. She was charged AND convicted of fetacide (for taking an abortion pill even though none was found in her system; and prosecuters  claimed the child was born alive and she left it. Doctors said that the fetus was about 24 weeks, and was stillborn) She was sentenced to 20 years in prison Her sentence was overturned after 1 year in prison.  ...

 

[Silver_Rik, ASN, RN]

On 7/1/2022 at 9:07 PM, VivaLasViejas said:

Thank you. The Bill of Rights speaks of the right to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That includes the unborn! 

That’s not in the Bill of Rights, it’s from the declaration of Independence.  Since abortion before 16-20 weeks wasn’t prosecuted in colonial America, the first state to pass an abortion law was Connecticut in 1803, and the men who wrote those documents didn’t even fully extend those rights to women or non white people it’s pretty presumptuous to insist that they intended them to apply to fetuses 

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

On 7/5/2022 at 4:28 PM, Silver_Rik said:

That’s not in the Bill of Rights, it’s from the declaration of Independence.  Since abortion before 16-20 weeks wasn’t prosecuted in colonial America, the first state to pass an abortion law was Connecticut in 1803, and the men who wrote those documents didn’t even fully extend those rights to women or non white people it’s pretty presumptuous to insist that they intended them to apply to fetuses 

So why should we accept that the constitution can never be changed? It was, after all, written by white, male, slave and/or property owners.  Other countries change their constitutions commonly.  Do we have to follow the belief systems of our framers or assume that the world and it's people have evolved since then?  Less than half of the country were even qualified to vote by their rules.   But this was really put here to post:

Conservatives Called an Ohio Rape Case Fake News. Now an Arrest Has Been Made (MSN.com)

So the next time someone quotes a headline from the usual culprits of the right wing rags (and even the WSJ got caught with their pants down with this story):  remember the quality of the people and entities who called the little girl a liar because they couldn't even wait until the story unfolded.  She is NOT the ONLY pre-teen girl who needs an abortion.

[toomuchbaloney]

Texas Sues Biden Administration Over Access to Emergency Medical Abortions https://nyti.ms/3cicAJW

Holy cow. 

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“EMTALA was not designed specifically for abortion access, or miscarriage management, but it absolutely includes both of them,” Mr. Gostin said. He said the law would permit an abortion “so long as it was based upon the need to prevent a pregnant woman from having serious health or life-threatening consequences due to her pregnancy.”

The guidance for hospitals was the first of two abortion-related actions that the Department of Health and Human Services has taken this week. On Wednesday, it warned the nation’s 60,000 retail pharmacies that they risk violating federal civil rights laws if they refuse to fill prescriptions for pills that can induce abortion.

That guidance references three drugs — mifepristone, misoprostol and methotrexate — that are often prescribed for other conditions but can also induce abortions. But the guidance was cautiously written, steering clear of telling pharmacies that they are required to provide the drugs for the purpose of abortion.

Texas isn't really a shining example of how to support women and children. 

[TAKOO01, BSN]

On 7/4/2022 at 4:57 AM, Tenebrae said:

Your friends who are responsible for the overturning of Roe V Wade are also going after access to contraception. Surely if we are so concerned about the number of abortions we would make sure that women have access to safe birth control. 

Of course that assumes that the intention of overturning Roe V Wade was about stopping abortion and not merely seeking to exert control over a womans reproductive rights. 

I'm a member of a nursing subreddit r/nursing. In the last week I've read of at least 2 cases of where women living in a trigger state with an ectopic pregnancy were forced to wait for essential healthcare because of the concerns of the doctors and the like over potentially breaking the law. I never heard of 

I believe that Texas (could have the wrong state) has something grandfathered into the law that says health professionals should try to remove the pregnany from the fallopian tube and place it into the uterus. Despite established health knowledge that advises an ectopic pregnancy will never be viable and it is not simply a case of removing the embryo from the wrong place and sticking it in the right place

I never heard of this reimplantation nonsense, so you made me look it up. It is actually true, although its from a couple of years ago. Why do we let these morons with no medical or scientific expertise propose these laws? 

Here is what I found:

https://www.Google.com/amp/s/consultqd.clevelandclinic.org/new-ohio-bill-falsely-suggests-that-reimplantation-of-ectopic-pregnancy-is-possible/amp/

Thanks for helping  me to learn something new, Tenebrae, even though it has just made me feel disgusted at what is happening in our country.