The Supreme Court has overruled Roe v. Wade, the 1973 landmark decision establishing the right to abortion.

[Julie]

This final decision ends constitutional protection for abortion, returning the rights to state legislatures.

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In a historic and far-reaching decision, the U.S. Supreme Court officially reversed Roe v. Wade on Friday, declaring that the constitutional right to abortion, upheld for nearly a half century, no longer exists.

Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, ending right to abortion upheld for decades

Do you think the Supreme Court made the right decision or gone too far?

[heron, ASN, RN]

35 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Indeed. Those sites are outside of my preferred media consumption zone. They were, however, the only place that I could find record of Pritt's thinking and suggestions to relieve those men of the inspiration to encourage abortion.  

Highly unlikely that right-wing sources would cover it. That would undermine their push to minimize women’s concerns over the fall-out. Centrist to left-leaning outlets don’t much care about those hillbillies in West Virginia unless Joe Manchin is acting out or the coal industry is involved.

The frankly biased sources on either side are useful, though, because they often produce little tidbits like this that are worth following up or, at least, watching.

ETA: I first heard of Christian Nationalist ideology over 5 years ago on one of those fringe sites. They can be quite predictive, at times. Just because you’re paranoid …

It’s interesting at times to think about the social function of “fringe” thinking and behavior. Consider the ideas that started way out on the fringe, like informed consent.

I personally don’t think Britt’s proposal will go anywhere, but you never know.

[toomuchbaloney]

22 minutes ago, heron said:

Highly unlikely that right-wing sources would cover it. That would undermine their push to minimize women’s concerns over the fall-out. Centrist to left-leaning outlets don’t much care about those hillbillies in West Virginia unless Joe Manchin is acting out or the coal industry is involved. The frankly biased sources on either side are useful, though, because they often produce little tidbits like this that are worth following up or, at least, watching.

I personally think the proposal won’t go anywhere, but you never know.

Maybe it won't go anywhere this time...but we've gotten to the place where it was politically safe for him to speak it out loud...

[HiddenAngels]

3 hours ago, heron said:

I just read that a Republican legislator in West Virginia is advocating for a halt to child support enforcement. His argument: the threat of having to pay child support makes men pressure women into having abortions.

Google: “WV State Delegate Chris Pritt child support”. (Happens to be a divorce attorney.) There’s video of his speech.

Wow! This is not an IF, THEN, situation.  He should know better.

Now if he would have said the threat of their wives or girlfriends finding out make men pressure women into having abortions, I might have given it a slow read.

[HiddenAngels]

2 hours ago, MEDFET said:

I think my ambition and drive was similar to your until recent exposure to corrupt ness has me feeling like what seems so obvious is not the case. Many americans believe that we have born freedom that we as society given equal rights but don’t really grasp whose on the frontline and what we are giving up to secure these rights 

Can you elaborate?  I feel like I kind of want to get this, but..

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

2 hours ago, heron said:

Highly unlikely that right-wing sources would cover it. That would undermine their push to minimize women’s concerns over the fall-out. Centrist to left-leaning outlets don’t much care about those hillbillies in West Virginia unless Joe Manchin is acting out or the coal industry is involved.

The frankly biased sources on either side are useful, though, because they often produce little tidbits like this that are worth following up or, at least, watching.

ETA: I first heard of Christian Nationalist ideology over 5 years ago on one of those fringe sites. They can be quite predictive, at times. Just because you’re paranoid …

It’s interesting at times to think about the social function of “fringe” thinking and behavior. Consider the ideas that started way out on the fringe, like informed consent.

I personally don’t think Britt’s proposal will go anywhere, but you never know.

When I read Ginni Thomas had previous been a cult member in her youth, it made me think that there must be something measurable in fringe thinkers that could be seen on a PET scan if only we knew what to look for.  She actually spoke to people about the dangers of cults but gotten bitten with the cultist virus again.  I think her husband has the same brain lesion.

[heron, ASN, RN]

3 minutes ago, subee said:

When I read Ginni Thomas had previous been a cult member in her youth, it made me think that there must be something measurable in fringe thinkers that could be seen on a PET scan if only we knew what to look for.  She actually spoke to people about the dangers of cults but gotten bitten with the cultist virus again.  I think her husband has the same brain lesion.

Umm … I’m a fringe thinker. 

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

Just now, heron said:

Umm … I’m a fringe thinker 

But would you use your thoughts for evil?

[heron, ASN, RN]

10 minutes ago, subee said:

But would you use your thoughts for evil?

Define “evil”. My very existence is “evil” to a fairly significant fraction of society. According to them, I deserve  the death penalty for being alive.

Needless to say, I find all the right-wing whingeing about cancellation, witch hunts, and the persecution of Christians to be pretty risible. 

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

3 minutes ago, heron said:

Define “evil”. My very existence is “evil” to a fairly significant fraction of society. According to them, I deserve  the death penalty for being alive.

Needless to say, I find all the right-wing whingeing about cancellation, witch hunts, and the persecution of Christians to be pretty risible. 

Alan Dershowitz had the bad taste to complain that he had been "cancelled" by the people at Martha's Vineyard.  I wanted to explain to him that there is a difference between being cancelled and being shunned.  The first may not be deserved but the second is certainly deserved.

[HiddenAngels]

16 hours ago, heron said:

Umm … I’m a fringe thinker. 

But you’re certainly no follower ? 

[HiddenAngels]

16 hours ago, subee said:

When I read Ginni Thomas had previous been a cult member in her youth, it made me think that there must be something measurable in fringe thinkers that could be seen on a PET scan if only we knew what to look for.  She actually spoke to people about the dangers of cults but gotten bitten with the cultist virus again.  I think her husband has the same brain lesion.

This is such an interesting point and not to add shade.

I don’t know if it’s necessarily ‘fringe thinkers’,  I honestly thought fringe thinking was relative.  I mean we all sway when we need to. 
 

But, more to this point on cult following or should we say perpetual cult following. It seems People will blindly follow someone or an idea and Whether they know it to be true or just don’t t care should be another all nurses post.  However do you think it has something to do with lack of responsibility and accountability,  or having to do with power tripping, or as you posted something more serious but not readily diagnoseable ‘is that a word’.  If the latter then we as humans certainly have a responsibility to study that more in depth. 

[HiddenAngels]

16 hours ago, heron said:

Define “evil”. My very existence is “evil” to a fairly significant fraction of society. According to them, I deserve  the death penalty for being alive.

Judgement Free Zone ?