The Real Reason Republicans Want to Oust Liz Cheney

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Politico 5/5/21

The Real Reason Republicans Want to Oust Liz Cheney

The problem isn’t her views on Donald Trump. It’s her relationships with fellow Republicans.
 

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...The divide is deeper than pro- or anti-Trump. Rather, it’s a disagreement about how influential an out-of-office Trump continues to be on the party and whether, politically speaking, GOP energy is best spent fighting him or President Joe Biden. Cheney and her allies say Trump is an electoral loser for the GOP and won’t fade on his own; others argue his influence is diminishing and it’s disastrous to keep fighting the last war.

That sentiment is behind the exasperation with Cheney that extends even to some of the Republicans who joined her in voting for Trump’s second impeachment, according to two GOP lawmakers. They say Cheney is hurting the electoral prospects of the anti-Trumpers in the conference, who are being asked about her, rather than Biden, when they return home to their districts....

NY Mag/com 5/5/21

Liz Cheney Wants to Save American Democracy From Trump’s Next Coup
 

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...Democracy is not an issue you can simply put aside, or even weigh alongside all the other issues. It’s a foundational issue — the one decision that has to be settled before any other political question can be considered.

That fate of American democracy is the biggest issue in American politics. The system survived Trump’s often clumsy efforts to subvert it. But the threat is far from over. A majority of Republican voters believe Trump’s lie that the election was stolen, and this belief has been the most important driver of their post-election behavior. Republican-controlled states are implementing voting restrictions to placate this lie; Republican officials who refused to go along with Trump’s autogolpe are being removed from their positions.

The Bulwark’s Jonathan Last recently argued that Trump’s election lie is the Republican autopsy. “Republicans are already well on their way to marshaling the political will to do whatever the law even theoretically might allow in pursuit of power,” he argued. In 2020, a handful of key Republican actors were unwilling to use the full extent of their power to overturn the result and either assign electoral votes to their party using their control of state government, or throw the contest to the House.

Trump is both extending his control over the party and ensuring that his anti-democratic ideology is no longer challenged. He is training his party to join him in subverting the next election. ...

 

I was hoping that without Twitter and facebook, along with NY state investigations that Trumps influence would wane.  More upsetting is the BIG LIE continuing with Republicans enabling.

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Agree with her sentiments 100%.

Liz Cheney's Washington Post Op ED 5/5/21

The GOP is at a turning point. History is watching us.
 

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...In public statements again this week, former president Donald Trump has repeated his claims that the 2020 election was a fraud and was stolen. His message: I am still the rightful president, and President Biden is illegitimate. Trump repeats these words now with full knowledge that exactly this type of language provoked violence on Jan. 6. And, as the Justice Department and multiple federal judges have suggested, there is good reason to believe that Trump’s language can provoke violence again. Trump is seeking to unravel critical elements of our constitutional structure that make democracy work — confidence in the result of elections and the rule of law. No other American president has ever done this.

The Republican Party is at a turning point, and Republicans must decide whether we are going to choose truth and fidelity to the Constitution.

...Each of us swears an oath before God to uphold our Constitution. The electoral college has spoken. More than 60 state and federal courts, including multiple Trump-appointed judges, have rejected the former president’s arguments, and refused to overturn election results. That is the rule of law; that is our constitutional system for resolving claims of election fraud.

The question before us now is whether we will join Trump’s crusade to delegitimize and undo the legal outcome of the 2020 election, with all the consequences that might have...

 

 

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2 hours ago, NRSKarenRN said:

Agree with her sentiments 100%.

Liz Cheney's Washington Post Op ED 5/5/21

The GOP is at a turning point. History is watching us.
 

 

How quickly will that bit of sanity be cancelled in the Republican party?

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Funny how the press propaganda machine and their followers in this forums cant get enough of Republican disagreements,  but will barely acknowledge the Texas Democrat congressman's criticism of Bidens handling of the border crisis.

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2 hours ago, Beerman said:

Funny how the press propaganda machine and their followers in this forums cant get enough of Republican disagreements,  but will barely acknowledge the Texas Democrat congressman's criticism of Bidens handling of the border crisis.

White supremacy is a very real threat to this country remaining free.  So, it is funny how the propaganda machine of the Nazi right and their Trump supporting followers think Republican disagreements = Real conservatives fighting other conservatives and the border can be solved over night.  When in fact Trump supporters are not real conservatives and Trump supporters were OK with Trump's Nazi's writing policies to support zero immigration from human beings from predominantly black and brown countries. 

Trump and his supporters are white nationalist, who are also authoritarians.  Real conservatives left the Republican party long ago or have remained to fight Nazis/Trump supporters for control of the party, Nazi political apologist (insert all the names of the politicians Trump supports), and Nazis.   

Speaking of media propaganda, Trumps' propagandist are circulating lies on a daily basis so I figured I should ask the Trump supporters on this forum.  Trump supporters, are you actually confused that:

1.) The twice impeached Trump is no longer President of the United States?  Your Fuhrer said he is yesterday.

2.) The election in 2020 is legit and was not fraudulent? Your idol god insists that the "Big Lie" is that he is not President, when in fact is known as the Big Liar!

3.) January 6 was an attempted coupe by Trump and his whacked Trump terrorist? The twice impeached political abomination continues to call Trump terrorist patriots, when in fact they are traitors to this country and future prisoner number whatever.  

 

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2 hours ago, Beerman said:

Funny how the press propaganda machine and their followers in this forums cant get enough of Republican disagreements,  but will barely acknowledge the Texas Democrat congressman's criticism of Bidens handling of the border crisis.

LOL

Do you ou think that rises to the level of threat that THE BIG LIE represents to our republic? If so, you fall on the side sedition, not patriotism.  

You get to decide. 

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1 hour ago, SummerGarden said:

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Trump and his supporters are white nationalist, who are also authoritarians.  Real conservatives left the Republican party long ago or have remained to fight Nazis/Trump supporters for control of the party, Nazi political apologist (insert all the names of the politicians Trump supports), and Nazis.   

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When you say "Trump supporter,"  are you referring to all of the 74 million who voted for him?  Or, are you using other criteria to make this classification?

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2 hours ago, chare said:

When you say "Trump supporter,"  are you referring to all of the 74 million who voted for him?  Or, are you using other criteria to make this classification?

Anyone who supports Trump is a Trump supporter.  In addition, I thank God that 81.1 million Americans who voted for President Biden and against Trump and Trumpism were not and are not outnumbered.  We are the majority and we will continue to fight and win.

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3 hours ago, chare said:

When you say "Trump supporter,"  are you referring to all of the 74 million who voted for him?  Or, are you using other criteria to make this classification?

This seems like an odd question.  How would you define a Biden supporter? 

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On 5/7/2021 at 11:53 AM, chare said:

When you say "Trump supporter,"  are you referring to all of the 74 million who voted for him?  Or, are you using other criteria to make this classification?

Well...........yes.  They voted for him despite him being on the continuum of evil.  He's not Hitler; he's just on the same continuum.

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On 5/6/2021 at 3:16 PM, NRSKarenRN said:

Politico 5/5/21

The Real Reason Republicans Want to Oust Liz Cheney

The problem isn’t her views on Donald Trump. It’s her relationships with fellow Republicans.
 

NY Mag/com 5/5/21

Liz Cheney Wants to Save American Democracy From Trump’s Next Coup
 

I was hoping that without Twitter and facebook, along with NY state investigations that Trumps influence would wane.  More upsetting is the BIG LIE continuing with Republicans enabling.

I don't think that the problem is Trump. I think that republicans know that in a fair fight they will lose hands down as evidenced by their losing the popular votes in the last 7 elections I think. 

I think that they have calculated that their only chances going forward is to cheat as best as they can. Suppress voting for Democrats, gerrymandering and any other illegal means to retain power. In other words, Cancel Democracy! 

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2 hours ago, Curious1997 said:

I don't think that the problem is Trump. I think that republicans know that in a fair fight they will lose hands down as evidenced by their losing the popular votes in the last 7 elections I think. 

I think that they have calculated that their only chances going forward is to cheat as best as they can. Suppress voting for Democrats, gerrymandering and any other illegal means to retain power. In other words, Cancel Democracy! 

Republicans hate smart women.  Hilary was the smartest and they hated her the most.  They still want their women subservient to their stupidity and they get real testy when a woman starts to break free of the metaphorical shackles.  It's enough to make a woman want to be a Democrat and maybe Liz will switch:)  But this is a woman who put political gain over her own sister so I doubt it will happen.  Who ever thought she would eventually be eaten by her own party?

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