Pro Republica The Insurrection website gathering information regarding behind the scenes rally/riot start, online postings and public information about the U.S. Capital Building Riot which occurred immediately post President Trump rally held 1/06/2021. Will post info of interest regarding the upcoming Impeachment Trial for our members discussion in this thread . Our Democracy still at stake. Karen
Caroline Wren, a Trump fundraiser, is listed as a “VIP Advisor” in a National Park Service permit for the Jan. 6th rally at the Ellipse. Text messages and a planning memo show the title downplays the active role she played in organizing the event.
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ProPublica sifted through thousands of videos taken by Parler users to create an immersive, first-person view of the Capitol riot as experienced by those who were ther
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Fascism: A Warning by Madeline Albright is another great read as discusses Fascist leaders around the world--helps to understand the influences on the Capital riot and how it could occur in the US.
Fascism: A Warning by Madeline Albright is another great read as discusses Fascist leaders around the world--helps to understand the influences on the Capital riot and how it could occur in the US.
One way to put a stop to people like Trump or the madness of our election system is to adopt the British style of govt. Vote for the party instead of the candidate. We don't seem to be able to get rid of the two party system and to prevent people like Nixon or Trump or any other charismatic idiot from fooling the public, vote for the party and let the party choose their leader.
This ensures that only a proper politician with exceptional experience becomes president and if he plays around like a Trump, he can be easily ousted through a vote of no confidence from his own party and replaced. Such a person has to be diplomatic and conciliatory to begin with, so he can using a form of coalition within his own party get to the front. This means he/she has to take into account the needs of everyone.
Danish style! But only within their own party. This should take all the black money out of politics and ensure we don't have personalities instead of proper politicians. People like Majorie Taylor Greene and Josh Hawleys etc will never get a look in and therefore present little chance of future Trumps.
Once a politician knows that there's a consequence not only in four years but during their tenure, that should improve their behavior and the party's considerably.
I hate the fact that we vote for an individual instead of the party. When you hold people accountable, they tend to rise to the occasion or fail! This is how it's done in every system in our country. Except for politics where the biggest mouth with the prettiest teeth etc wins.
From nursing to ditch digging. You don't pull your weight, you're sacked! That's why we don't have proper politicians like Angela Merkel etc coming to the fore.
I'm not saying I like only two parties but voting for individuals has worked well for us for the most part.
The British have Boris Johnson and that's nothing to be excited about.
Sadly while the politicians have gone a little bat shite crazy, it's also the voting public that has elected them that's crazy as well. We can blame the system, blame the politicians, but we've a dumbed down selfish ignorant society that seems hell bent on destruction and isn't forward looking.
Trump and his supporters have spoke of starting the "Patriot Party" (which ironically the original Patriot Party was socialist). Interesting times.
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I'm not saying I like only two parties but voting for individuals has worked well for us for the most part.
The British have Boris Johnson and that's nothing to be excited about.
Sadly while the politicians have gone a little bat shite crazy, it's also the voting public that has elected them that's crazy as well. We can blame the system, blame the politicians, but we've a dumbed down selfish ignorant society that seems hell bent on destruction and isn't forward looking.
Trump and his supporters have spoke of starting the "Patriot Party" (which ironically the original Patriot Party was socialist). Interesting times.
It's a problem when one party suppresses voting and establishes their power by activation and empowerment of their extremists. That's what the current GOP is doing...pandering to their extremists. That's going to end badly just like it did in world history.
I'm not saying I like only two parties but voting for individuals has worked well for us for the most part.
The British have Boris Johnson and that's nothing to be excited about.
*The British has an entrenched Civil Service which actually runs the country. Boris can be replaced quickly if the country reacts badly to him ala Blair.
Sadly while the politicians have gone a little bat shite crazy, it's also the voting public that has elected them that's crazy as well. We can blame the system, blame the politicians, but we've a dumbed down selfish ignorant society that seems hell bent on destruction and isn't forward looking.
My point exactly. It's the voters I'm worried about. We vote for a person here and assign blame to them, but by shifting the blame to the party it ensures that they have to choose their leader well and THAT PERSON must make good choices because they can be REPLACED midway through a term, without an election looming.
This makes that person far more accountable and the party more in step with each other's goals because to become leader, they have to essentially practice COALITION within the party!
The American system is badly broken! The Electoral College reflects this. Republicans have lost SEVEN OUT OF THE LAST EIGHT POPULAR VOTES and the electoral college intervened.
It's a problem when one party suppresses voting and establishes their power by activation and empowerment of their extremists. That's what the current GOP is doing...pandering to their extremists. That's going to end badly just like it did in world history.
And now they are trying to ramp up voter suppression as in Georgia with Stacy Abrams and redistricting as in Pennsylvania with the judicial components, to make sure that the votes go their way.
Just like Citizens United have taken away votes from individuals, republicans are using every underhanded tactics to to suppress votes and voter's rights.
And now they are trying to ramp up voter suppression as in Georgia with Stacy Abrams and redistricting as in Pennsylvania with the judicial components, to make sure that the votes go their way.
Just like Citizens United have taken away votes from individuals, republicans are using every underhanded tactics to to suppress votes and voter's rights.
I saw this happening where I live. As a state Republicans run the governorship, house and senate and thus are in charge of gerrymandering.
My county is mostly Republican (but we went for Biden, but 2016 went for Trump). I live in in the most Democratic part of town, we are a racially mixed and have always voted heavily Democrat in higher percentages than the rest of the city and county. My neighborhood was then taken out of our district by Republican gerrymandering and combined with a county across the water that was heavily Republican and we were represented by Republicans in congress in Washington for several terms.
It wasn't until the State Supreme Court ruled this illegal that we were put back into the city we live in. We have since sent a Democrat to Congress to represent us. The manipulation of our votes was so obvious it was criminal in my mind.
I'm absolutely sure that these people including the vermin in congress and senate that supported the insurrection etc understand the frailty of life. The mechanisms of living and how easily extinguished it is? Or the horrific futures of serious injuries?
I think in general people(voters) criminals (and I know it's unrealistic) SHOULD be made to see a pediatric oncology unit with young ones who are completely blameless going through their traumas or an ICU unit of people fighting for their lives or CCU etc, so possibly they can understand what the implications of violence is or how easy it is to suffer in debilitating pain from no fault of their own except disease or injury.
I think these people don't understand and take life for granted which is why they can so easily resort to violence or call for it.
I saw a motorcycle instructor once who would ask the students to kneel suddenly onto the asphalt and watch them wince in pain, just from the impact. He would then tell them, that when they come off their bikes at just 20mph, to imagine what the pain will be like. I asked him how many people come back the next time, his response was that at least two people never come back and even though he's losing money, he's saving lives.
People who tout violence, need the same reminders. Neither Trump nor his supporters understand the implications.
I worked as a bouncer at a local club with a friend of mine when I was stupid for a couple of months. Amazing money but then you realize that some of the guys weren't even drunk when they started ***. They really just wanted to fight someone and were basically evil bastards. We would circulate every half hour and you could pick them out. They always bullied their girlfriends or spoke loudly and aggressively and for the slightest of reasons would look to get into an argument. We booted them out for no reason whatsoever, because get a few drinks in or some coke etc and we would have a handful.
Those are some of the people that went to the insurrection. Just looking for trouble.
"Our historic, patriotic and beautiful movement to Make America Great Again has only just begun," Trump said in a statement issued just moments after the Senate vote.
"In the months ahead I have much to share with you, and I look forward to continuing our incredible journey together to achieve American greatness for all of our people," he said.
"We have so much work ahead of us, and soon we will emerge with a vision for a bright, radiant, and limitless American future," Trump said.
Donald Trump's statements after acquittal and the "greatest witch hunt any president has ever had to endure." (paraphrased)
He does know he isn't the President doesn't he?
Obviously the last four years have been a failure for MAGA, even with acquittal, but apparently MAGA never started, it's only just begun.
How does he get over the fact that all the people he sucked up to and admired, are still in power and he's now been pitied by them because he's the biggest loser and is looking at jail time and losing everything!
He showed himself and caused such a car wreck that the republicans have lost everything!
It looks like he's getting a taste of his own medicine and I wonder how it tastes?
He loved to sue people, well he's going to be putting all that experience to use because I'm sure this is only the beginning!
Every suit has to have a discovery process, if indicted theoretically. Can you imagine how many people are scrambling because they don't know what will be uncovered, AND I know I wouldn't be trusting Trump to not put them under the bus!
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Fascism: A Warning by Madeline Albright is another great read as discusses Fascist leaders around the world--helps to understand the influences on the Capital riot and how it could occur in the US.