The election 2024 Thread

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I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

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toomuchbaloney said:

Is that part of the delusion?  I bet you could search through the relevant threads hoping to find that reference, but you won't.  The typical Trumpian tactic is just to claim nonsense as if it's true and then ignore all evidence that it's nonsense and repeat the same messaging later as if none of us can remember that it's nonsense.  

Goebbels did that too.  He wasn't the first master of disinformation but he certainly was the most dangerous.

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toomuchbaloney said:

Here are my words that you quoted too justify the above comment; "Correct.  Right wing extremists don't negotiate in good faith.  They are liars, the lot and all of the leaders involved in that violence are right wing extremists... including the American republican reportedly attempting to meddle."

Netanyahu = right wing extremist LEADER of Israel

Hamas = right wing extremists LEADERS of Gaza

Trump = right wing extremist LEADER of GOP

Right wing extremism = lies and bad faith negotiations 

Did I simplify that adequately for you to understand this time?  Maybe you didn't understand what I meant by using the word "leaders" and that caused you to confuse the leaders with protesters in the USA.  Or maybe you were just agitating with nonsense again because that certainly doesn't appear to be an attempt at the meaningful discussion you've said you come here to engage in.  

Snort.

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subee said:

Goebbels did that too.  He wasn't the first master of disinformation but he certainly was the most dangerous.

He might get a run for his money should the GOP manage to get Trump back into the white house.  

 

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toomuchbaloney said:

One of the things NEB and I have remarked upon is the difference in the background music and musical guests so far in these conventions.  The DNC certainly has the benefit of some pretty popular and current artists wanting to be associated with the Harris campaign.  The music is good! The state's roll call play list is now part of my Spotify Playlist.  

Apparently he recently used Beyonce's song "Freedom" a BLM anthem that Harris used.  Weird

toomuchbaloney said:

One of the things NEB and I have remarked upon is the difference in the background music and musical guests so far in these conventions.  The DNC certainly has the benefit of some pretty popular and current artists wanting to be associated with the Harris campaign.  The music is good! The state's roll call play list is now part of my Spotify Playlist.  

Apparently he recently used Beyonce's song "Freedom" a BLM anthem that Harris used.  Weird

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Tweety said:

Apparently he recently used Beyonce's song "Freedom" a BLM anthem that Harris used.  Weird

Apparently he recently used Beyonce's song "Freedom" a BLM anthem that Harris used.  Weird

Trump got a cease and desist letter from team Beyoncé. He doesn't care about that really, he doesn't require permission from women.  

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/21/montana-becomes-eighth-state-to-put-measure-protecting-abortion-on-ballot

Republicans tried and tried to keep this initiative off of the ballot.  It seems like they would want to know what the people of the state think about this issue. 

Our governor,  who seems to have presidential aspirations, is an embarrassment as he lies about P 2025.

"In a three-minute address Wednesday night, Polis made several false or misleading claims about the conservative agenda before the DNC crowd."

https://www.denver7.com/news/politics/fact-check-gov-poliss-dnc-attack-on-project-2025-included-false-claims-about-documents-contents

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Crusades said:

Yes. Instead if acknowledging the pro terrorist movement, you divert to "right wing....". Suggesting the terrorist supporters of Hamas are "right wing". 

No you didn't clear up anything. What is "right wing" Don't tell me WHO is right wing according to your opinion but what are the parameters for "right wing"? What's the definition?  

By the way, calling the Jewish leader  "right wing" is almost hilarious but not really when we consider the holocaust.  

There's no requirement for me to acknowledge what you call a pro terrorist movement.  

You should do your own homework. I find it interesting that you've been commenting all this time about politics and you don't understand what right wing means. It's rude that you immediately demand that I define it for you.  

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israel-swears-in-netanyahu-as-prime-minister-most-right-wing-government-in-countrys-history

Do you ever inform yourself outside of social media or right wing rags?

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Beerman said:

Our governor,  who seems to have presidential aspirations, is an embarrassment as he lies about P 2025.

"In a three-minute address Wednesday night, Polis made several false or misleading claims about the conservative agenda before the DNC crowd."

https://www.denver7.com/news/politics/fact-check-gov-poliss-dnc-attack-on-project-2025-included-false-claims-about-documents-contents

There are always voices encouraging the people to not take the fascists seriously and to trust that their ideas won't be executed in any kind of uncomfortable or unacceptable ways.  That part of the history of Mussolini and Hitler is fascinating.  

We're just supposed to trust the same political thinking that gave us abortion laws that are supposed to allow for exceptions but don't really?  There is literally no reason to give any of these conservatives that kind of benefit of the doubt.  

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Beerman said:

Our governor,  who seems to have presidential aspirations, is an embarrassment as he lies about P 2025.

"In a three-minute address Wednesday night, Polis made several false or misleading claims about the conservative agenda before the DNC crowd."

https://www.denver7.com/news/politics/fact-check-gov-poliss-dnc-attack-on-project-2025-included-false-claims-about-documents-contents

Project 2025 is what it is ... a party platform authored, in part, by former members of trump's staff. I'm sure that there have been distortions both pro and con since it came to public notice. The deciding factor for me is its origin.

Garbage in / garbage out.

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So Walz's neurodivergent son is going viral for getting emotional at the convention.  He's only 17.  People are loving it.

Well, not everyone.  Ann Coulter, a pure witch from way back deleted her vile post. But Mike Crispi's comments in the article below are off the chain ugly.  

Again, he's 17 and neurodivergent.  Walz has been very public about his son and is raising awareness for autism.

  Again, I'll say Republicans have lost their soul.

"Childless cat lady viciously mocks a proud son with a learning disability." - Mrs. Betty Bowers, America's Best Christianhttps://newrepublic.com/post/185178/maga-meltdown-tim-walz-gus-walz-dnc

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Beerman said:

Our governor,  who seems to have presidential aspirations, is an embarrassment as he lies about P 2025.

"In a three-minute address Wednesday night, Polis made several false or misleading claims about the conservative agenda before the DNC crowd."

https://www.denver7.com/news/politics/fact-check-gov-poliss-dnc-attack-on-project-2025-included-false-claims-about-documents-contents

Wrong is wrong and false claims are false claims and not acceptable.  He should be called out.

I'm a bit weary of the fear mongering around Project 2025.  But also, like I've said before, it does offer a window into the conservative mind and agenda.  

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