I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
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Tweety said:
Fair enough but you are speaking in the past and what he was. Your post originally was talking about his financial position as a qualifier for him to be a "regular" person in the here and now and I offered my opinion about that. Regular people don't live in a mansion as a job benefit, with a pension and a six figure salary. In my opinion.
His background as an adult certainly is more ordinary than your average politician like Vance that rises up younger and wealthy. It gives him a certain likability factor for sure.
Nah. I responded to the post about his financial portfolio. His portfolio doesn't qualify him as regular as much as his life history does.
Even at the regional and state levels of politics, wealthy people have greater presence and voice. It's pretty unusual for a public school teacher to ascend to a governor's mansion in this money driven country.
I think that people are who they are. Walz is now who he was then... only now with more and bigger experiences. Vance is still confused about his values and identity. Trump is still Trump, just older and crazier. Harris is still Harris, just older and more experienced.
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Beerman said:
It's great example of how the propagandist liberal media operates.
Remember, there nothing wrong with Biden's cognitive abilities despite many of us seeing it for a few years now.. Until literally overnight he became unfit to run again and they pulled out their knives for him.
Then almost overnight one of the most unpopular Vice-Presidents in history, who was a dismal Presidential candidate just 4 years ago (actually longer as her campaign didn't even make it to 2020) and who hasn't done anything of significance since, is now the Democrat candidate most fit to run.
Then she picked a radical leftist governor who most have never heard of to be her running mate.
Now, the two of them.together are somehow the best ticket in.our lifetime.
Alt least thats according to the propagandist liberal media.
Biden still has sharper cognitive function than Trump does AND he is humble and wise.
Republicans sure do want to call Harris the most unpopular vice president but it wasn't VP Harris who had to hide because a bunch of Biden supporters were threatening to hang her while Biden suggested that maybe she deserved it. That's a pretty extreme example of unpopularity, isn't it?
Almost overnight the political alternative to Trump became a much younger, very experienced, enthusiastic and optimistic candidate while Trump became a smaller, more paranoid and bitter version of himself. The enthusiasm for that relative youth and vigor is palpable.
Harris picked a well qualified governor who is well liked in his state. She chose a guy that served as congressman in MN for 12 years. She picked a man with a clear history of legislative and governance successes. Harris picked someone to help her get elected, to help her get things done after she wins and to step in competently should she become disabled. Trump choose someone who he said was "kissing my a$$" and loved him. Trump said it didn't matter who his VP was when asked if his VP choice was prepared to assume the presidency (he's not). That means that the Harris/Walz ticket is much more prepared, more exciting, more optimistic and more energized than the Trump/Vance ticket. Harris/Walz know who they are, they know what their values are and they know that the voting public generally appreciates the authenticity when compared to the dishonest spin of the other political candidates.
"Propagandist liberal media"... which outlet would be an example of that? MSNBC?
Nah. I responded to the post about his financial portfolio. His portfolio doesn't qualify him as regular as much as his life history does.
Even at the regional and state levels of politics, wealthy people have greater presence and voice. It's pretty unusual for a public school teacher to ascend to a governor's mansion in this money driven country.
I think that people are who they are. Walz is now who he was then... only now with more and bigger experiences. Vance is still confused about his values and identity. Trump is still Trump, just older and crazier. Harris is still Harris, just older and more experienced.
Yes, you were responding to his post about his portfolio, which is what I said, so not sure why you're saying "nah..."
After that portfolio response, you said "Regular people Midwestern Americans." A short statement that implied to me that it was his current financial position that made him "Regular people Midwestern Americans" because you mentioned nothing about his past being the qualifier here. I appreciate you clarifying it. But I feel criticized for not understanding a four word post with a quote about his portfolio. LOL
It's great example of how the propagandist liberal media operates.
Remember, there nothing wrong with Biden's cognitive abilities despite many of us seeing it for a few years now.. Until literally overnight he became unfit to run again and they pulled out their knives for him.
Then almost overnight one of the most unpopular Vice-Presidents in history, who was a dismal Presidential candidate just 4 years ago (actually longer as her campaign didn't even make it to 2020) and who hasn't done anything of significance since, is now the Democrat candidate most fit to run.
Then she picked a radical leftist governor who most have never heard of to be her running mate.
Now, the two of them.together are somehow the best ticket in.our lifetime.
Alt least thats according to the propagandist liberal media.
I'm talking about real people on social media going gaga of Walz....Threads, Instagram, X and Facebook and the like.
I don't read or watch/listen to "propagandist liberal media" but I imagine they are too are gaga over the Harris-Walz ticket and if you say they are reporting them as the "best ticket in our lifetime" I can't argue as I wouldn't know what they are saying.
The other news stations are reporting on what is obviously a big and successful transfer of a ticket. It's big news isn't it?
It is interesting the total endorsement from all potential candidates and all democrats immediately aligning with Harris. It's also interesting to see as people get to know the unknown "radical leftist" candidate she picked how approving they are of him (like I said, it's a bit much). Like I said, she chose well.
A lot of it isn't propaganda but a relief that Biden is out and Democrats have a ticket they can get behind. Yes, we tossed him aside for Harris and we can talk about her being a failed candidate and an unpopular vice president. But there was a malaise and objection to Biden being in so when he left with very little time there was a collective sigh of relief and an energy.
I will let you have your moment about moment about what you called a few years ago. I stand by all I said during that time as well.
Now we have a good election coming up. One with two energized tickets with very supporting bases that are miles apart and a nearly 50/50 split in the polls.
I imagine seeing 20,000 people show up in Arizona, throngs greeting them at the airport in Michigan is a bit unsettling to the Republicans after such a tepid campaign from Biden. It happened fast and furious but I don't think it's because of leftist propaganda, it's a bit more organic than that.
We live in a country that elected Trump, the most baffling election I've ever seen, so republicans criticizing the baffling Democrat reaction to Harris-Walz falls flat on me. LOL
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Tweety said:
Yes, you were responding to his post about his portfolio, which is what I said, so not sure why you're saying "nah..."
After that portfolio response, you said "Regular people Midwestern Americans." A short statement that implied to me that it was his current financial position that made him "Regular people Midwestern Americans" because you mentioned nothing about his past being the qualifier here. I appreciate you clarifying it. But I feel criticized for not understanding a four word post with a quote about his portfolio. LOL
Thank you next
It wasn't my intent to cause you to feel criticized, only to clarify and discuss. In a time when someone as abnormal and unwell as Trump can ascend to the presidency and the top of the GOP, I think there is value in exploring the ideas around what it means to be "regular people Midwestern". Character matters.
Then almost overnight one of the most unpopular Vice-Presidents in history, who was a dismal Presidential candidate just 4 years ago (actually longer as her campaign didn't even make it to 2020) and who hasn't done anything of significance since, is now the Democrat candidate most fit to run.
Then she picked a radical leftist governor who most have never heard of to be her running mate.
Now, the two of them.together are somehow the best ticket in.our lifetime.
I've seen the term "most unpopular Vice-Presidents in history" in other social media posts and wonder who has determined this? Certainly, Spiro Agnew was pretty bad, did anybody like Quayle? Pence's presidential bid fizzled quickly. Going back further, Calhoun was in favor of secession . Aaron Burr shot the former secretary of the treasury.
But anyhow, why do republican-leaning voters care who the democratic nominee is? Or how they are nominated? I haven't heard any pundit say they are the best ticket in our lifetime, but the enthusiasm they are drumming up is impressive. To me, it is refreshing to hear a positive message rather than what the orange man is spewing out.
I've seen the term "most unpopular Vice-Presidents in history" in other social media posts and wonder who has determined this? Certainly, Spiro Agnew was pretty bad, did anybody like Quayle? Pence's presidential bid fizzled quickly. Going back further, Calhoun was in favor of secession . Aaron Burr shot the former secretary of the treasury.
But anyhow, why do republican-leaning voters care who the democratic nominee is? Or how they are nominated? I haven't heard any pundit say they are the best ticket in our lifetime, but the enthusiasm they are drumming up is impressive. To me, it is refreshing to hear a positive message rather than what the orange man is spewing out.
It was widely reported that in 2023 her favorability hit a "record low". It might have been mentioned here because Biden's was low as well.
So some people are baffled that she recovered from this to almost instant approval for the nomination from virtually all corners and is setting records at her campaign stops. This quick ascendence to the top is why I don't think it was the "radical liberal propaganda", because it literally happened overnight when Biden resigned, even though it was talked about in the weeks ahead.
Now she has better ratings than Biden, but probably not significantly enough to change their narrative that she was "the most unpopular Vice-Presidents in history". Especially when it comes to the border, the border, the border....(but her emails). It's a presidential campaign so it's her cross to bear and not surprising that she needs to be portrayed as a bad VP who will be a bad President.
Moot points all because despite all this she got the nomination and has soared in the polls. With some saying "Harris' net favorability rating improving from -20 in May to -3 in late July/early August is nothing short of incredible,"
I love when politicians get to say "misspoke" when one of them lies.
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Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz "misspoke" in a newly resurfaced video from 2018 in which he said he handled assault weapons "in war,” a Harris campaign spokesperson told CNN on Saturday.
"These documents were obtained illegally from foreign sources hostile to the United States, intended to interfere with the 2024 election and sow chaos throughout our Democratic process,” Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung said in a statement to CNN.
It's an excuse. He should debate the democratic nominee no matter who it might be and the time to schedule that is now. He should try to brush up on policy discussion this time.
Do you mean the Democrat nominee no matter who it is should debate Trump?
Maybe your sources are the likes of this congressman. You can see in his face he was totally uninformed. Someone down the food chain was probably fired.
"Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY) was fact-checked by 'Special Report' host Bret Baier when he claimed former President Donald Trump "doesn't want to debate" Vice President Kamala Harris. After acknowledging that Trump agreed to debates, Goldman said he doubts Trump will participate in any because "you can't trust Donald Trump to show up to anything."
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Nah. I responded to the post about his financial portfolio. His portfolio doesn't qualify him as regular as much as his life history does.
Even at the regional and state levels of politics, wealthy people have greater presence and voice. It's pretty unusual for a public school teacher to ascend to a governor's mansion in this money driven country.
I think that people are who they are. Walz is now who he was then... only now with more and bigger experiences. Vance is still confused about his values and identity. Trump is still Trump, just older and crazier. Harris is still Harris, just older and more experienced.