The election 2024 Thread

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I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

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Beerman said:

That's all a nice deflection from the fact that I pushed back on your assertion that Trump killed small businesses.

Anyway,  I certainly forgot that stupid comment by Kushner.   As I'm sure everyone else here did as well, because it didn't matter.  That's your example of Trump's inept leadership?

Yes. Millions were vaccinated when Biden was president.  Vaccines that were developed when Trump was in office.   And how soon we forget Harris, Pelosi,  and other Democrats and liberal media members said they'd never trust such a vaccine that was developed under a Trump administration. 

I worked for a contractor doing vaccines for a good portion of 2021 and first few months of 2022, including 4 months in FL of all places.  The FL Dept of Health,  and other similar agencies in other locations where I went certainly were involved.  Money cane from the federal govt obviously.  But, how exactly did "Biden get millions vaccinated"?

Of course small businesses were victims of the covid pandemic.  

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/business-entry-and-exit-in-the-covid-19-pandemic-a-preliminary-look-at-official-data-20220506.html

Kushner's inexperienced ineptitude and callous ignorance about responding to a public health crisis absolutely DID matter.  He was in a leadership position for COVID response, remember? He had states bidding against one another for supplies, ffs. That gaslight attempt was pathetic. 

Yes we know that Trump paid to expedite the vaccine delivery.  He's gotten plenty of credit for that.  Now give him the credit he deserves for convincing so many people that masking or vaccinating was a political decision.

I guess if that's what you want to believe that those democrats actually said about getting vaccinated, that's your choice.  I know better, and I suspect that you do too.  

It's interesting to me that you acknowledge that Biden got lots of people vaccinated and then you wonder how he did it. Coincidentally, I use to participate in the organization and execution of mass vaccination events in the Midwest. I'd say that it mostly distills down to attention to detail, good contingency planning and logistics.  You have to have the people wanting vaccine in the same place as the temperature sensitive vaccine and at a time when someone can administer. This is a good time to reflect on the reality that Biden inherited a pandemic and a new vaccine but did not inherit a national plan for distribution or administration of the vaccine.  

Are you asking tongue in cheek how Biden managed to get people vaccinated or do you really not remember? He promised 100 million shots in arms in the first 100 days and delivered that.  There was quite a bit of discussion about how that was achieved, it seems.  

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Beerman said:

LOL...remind us who "found him to have been engaged in insurrection".

The Colorado Supreme Court

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Beerman said:

Wait.  Your words:

"Will the SCOTUS have courage and interpret the constitution according to its plain language and intentions, or will they spin and twist to appease the mad king? :

It was 9-0.  Are you saying the liberal justices caved and joined the conservatives in spinning and twisting to "appease the mad king"?

Yes, my words.  A question.  Spin might be the answer, if you read the concurrence from Kagan, Sotomayor, Coney Barrett and Jackson.  

It seems the mad king is appeased.  

 

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Beerman said:

That's all a nice deflection from the fact that I pushed back on your assertion that Trump killed small businesses.

Anyway,  I certainly forgot that stupid comment by Kushner.   As I'm sure everyone else here did as well, because it didn't matter.  That's your example of Trump's inept leadership?

Yes. Millions were vaccinated when Biden was president.  Vaccines that were developed when Trump was in office.   And how soon we forget Harris, Pelosi,  and other Democrats and liberal media members said they'd never trust such a vaccine that was developed under a Trump administration. 

I worked for a contractor doing vaccines for a good portion of 2021 and first few months of 2022, including 4 months in FL of all places.  The FL Dept of Health,  and other similar agencies in other locations where I went certainly were involved.  Money cane from the federal govt obviously.  But, how exactly did "Biden get millions vaccinated"?

Uhhhhh.  He went on television and encouraged people to get vaxxed.  Maybe those were censored in Texas.  Harris, Pelosi said something stupid (if they really said it).  We all did stupid stuff like leave our groceries outside in the earlier week.  Please

subee said:

Uhhhhh.  He went on television and encouraged people to get vaxxed.  Maybe those were censored in Texas.  Harris, Pelosi said something stupid (if they really said it).  We all did stupid stuff like leave our groceries outside in the earlier week.  Please

In other words, not much.

That's what I figured.   He really didn't have any effect on people getting vaccinated.

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subee said:

Uhhhhh.  He went on television and encouraged people to get vaxxed.  Maybe those were censored in Texas.  Harris, Pelosi said something stupid (if they really said it).  We all did stupid stuff like leave our groceries outside in the earlier week.  Please

Trump supporters must exaggerate and employ hyperbole to attempt to make any Democrat seem as inappropriate or stupid as Trump seems everyday of the week.  It's a pattern of behavior.  

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Beerman said:

In other words, not much.

That's what I figured.   He really didn't have any effect on people getting vaccinated.

How do you know that?  It was his responsibility to do so.  

subee said:

How do you know that?  It was his responsibility to do so.  

Let's take a poll.

Who here got vaccinated because Joe Biden was on TV encouraging them to do so?

Who here has any family or friends who took the vaccine because Joe Biden was on TV encouraging them to do so?

Who here knows of anyone at all in their life past or present who took the covid vaccine because Joe Biden was on TV encouraging them to do so?

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Beerman said:

Let's take a poll.

Who here got vaccinated because Joe Biden was on TV encouraging them to do so?

Who here has any family or friends who took the vaccine because Joe Biden was on TV encouraging them to do so?

Who here knows of anyone at all in their life past or present who took the covid vaccine because Joe Biden was on TV encouraging them to do so?

Raises hand.

Covid vaccination was FREE and remains so for most Americans, after reading medical science behind covid vaccination felt it my best interest due to medical hx. Sons also vaccinated. 

Biden Administration efforts.

1/2021 Unpacking The Biden Administration's Coronavirus Strategy

Second day in office:Biden signs executive orders on Covid vaccinations, pandemic response

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Biden has set an ambitious goal of giving 100 million shots in 100 days — ramping up the pace from the 17 million shots the Trump administration oversaw.

!/2022: A year in, experts assess Biden's hits and misses on handling the pandemic

8/2022 FACT SHEET: Biden Administration Outlines Plan to Get Americans an Updated COVID-⁠19 Vaccine Shot and Manage COVID-⁠19 this Fall

Biden administration to provide free Covid vaccines to uninsured Americans this fall through end of 2024

White House: National COVID-⁠19 Preparedness Plan

Biden continues to get daily Covid updates, seen him pull out his breast pocket card with stats on it.

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US country has had more deaths compared to worldwide totals, thankfully decreased rate past 2 years.

Got Bidens latest offer of free COVID tests  too --which my son has used since works for a sports team. 

NRSKarenRN said:

Raises hand.

Covid vaccination was FREE and remains so for most Americans, after reading medical science behind covid vaccination felt it my best interest due to medical hx. Sons also vaccinated. 

Biden Administration efforts.

1/2021 Unpacking The Biden Administration's Coronavirus Strategy

Second day in office:Biden signs executive orders on Covid vaccinations, pandemic response

!/2022: A year in, experts assess Biden's hits and misses on handling the pandemic

8/2022 FACT SHEET: Biden Administration Outlines Plan to Get Americans an Updated COVID-⁠19 Vaccine Shot and Manage COVID-⁠19 this Fall

Biden administration to provide free Covid vaccines to uninsured Americans this fall through end of 2024

White House: National COVID-⁠19 Preparedness Plan

Biden continues to get daily Covid updates, seen him pull out his breast pocket card with stats on it.

image.thumb.png.934583c176d445ba7a166fb2f1d8904b.png

Got his latest offer of free COVID tests  too --which my son has used since works for a sports team. 

Sounds like you decided to get the vaccine because it was in your best interest.  Didn't have much to do with Joe encouraging you.  You would have got it anyway.  Am I correct?

I received my first and second covid vaccination when Trump was in office.  It was free.

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Sen. Kyrsten Sinema announces she won't run for reelection

Democratic Rep. Ruben Gallego of Arizona and former Arizona Republican gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake are  top candidates in the Senate race,  TV news said Gallego was polling ahead of Sinema today

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More NJ Senator news --- sure seems he's time has ended.

Philadelphia Inquirer 3/5/24

U.S. Sen. Bob Menendez and his wife are facing new charges — this time for allegedly obstructing justice

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A new indictment accuses the senator of having lawyers mislead authorities about the bribes he's accused of taking.

 

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