I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
DeSantis said he was going to rip up The Green New Deal and throw it in the trash. Apparently the Green New Deal was only a proposed resolution that has never been passed.
DeSantis if someone from a drug cartel was caught sneaking fentanyl across the border, he would have them shot stone cold dead.
The Republican presidential candidate joined Morning Joe on Thursday for a wide-ranging interview, where Geist turned the conversation to the anger and divisiveness pervading America's social culture. After bringing up multiple examples of threats and political violence, Geist noted the recent speech in which DeSantis declared "we're going to start slitting throats" of so-called "deep state people" in the American bureaucracy.
"I know you didn't mean that literally,” Geist said, "but do you have any pause or any regret about using that rhetoric, given our political climate?”
This wasn't the only time DeSantis has invoked this kind of violent imagery, but he offered Geist no regrets "because I think people knew it was a figure of speech.”
"Why not just say you're gonna fire them?” Geist asked.
"Well, because you're being colorful with some of the stuff,” said DeSantis. "But you basically — you need to bring in serious accountability.”
The governor went on to say "I'm not just going to go up there and be nice" about demanding accountability and restructuring the government. Geist countered by once again pointing to threats of political violence and asking "Don't you think we should as a country — and particularly political leaders — turn down the temperature on things like that?”
"I stand by what I said,” DeSantis answered. "I don't think anyone could reasonably have taken that and acted like I'm somehow advocating anything other than robust political process and robust political accountability. At the same time, we have divisions in the country. I think that's natural. We're a big, diverse country, but what I try to do is focus on the substance.”
DeSantis concluded by insisting, "You can fight the fights and I'm going to fight the fights very hard, but I also don't want to make enemies unnecessarily. I want people to work together when we can.”...
He's hedging his bets on continuing to be a jerk with the last words of his quote. Such a lack of quality. But I have to admit he probably doesn't dream of burning the infidels on a stake as does our ace new SOTH.
He's hedging his bets on continuing to be a jerk with the last words of his quote. Such a lack of quality. But I have to admit he probably doesn't dream of burning the infidels on a stake as does our ace new SOTH.
DeSantis has once claimed to be driven by God and Faith and not politics. Eye roll to that. Before the war in Israel he touted his tight ties with them to woo evangelicals. But he certainly hasn't been front and center with it like our SOTH has been.
People eat that tough guy stuff up. He says he's not going to be the nice guy.
After receiving an important endorsement the governor of Iowa (not sure why this is a "game changer" as his staff calls it, but it's notable), he's might not be done.
DeSantis has once claimed to be driven by God and Faith and not politics. Eye roll to that. Before the war in Israel he touted his tight ties with them to woo evangelicals. But he certainly hasn't been front and center with it like our SOTH has been.
People eat that tough guy stuff up. He says he's not going to be the nice guy.
After receiving an important endorsement the governor of Iowa (not sure why this is a "game changer" as his staff calls it, but it's notable), he's might not be done.
I love that Kim Renolds is supposedly going to endorse this toxic mess of a man. It just means that the Republican vote might he less for Trump. Continue on with your failing lack of thought, Republicans! You are doing us a favor.
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DeSantis has once claimed to be driven by God and Faith and not politics. Eye roll to that. Before the war in Israel he touted his tight ties with them to woo evangelicals. But he certainly hasn't been front and center with it like our SOTH has been.
People eat that tough guy stuff up. He says he's not going to be the nice guy.
After receiving an important endorsement the governor of Iowa (not sure why this is a "game changer" as his staff calls it, but it's notable), he's might not be done.
DeSantis has an interesting record to run on. I'm pretty sure that he's hoping that Trump doesn't manage to win the nomination because of his legal baggage so that endorsement could help him. The struggling college that he meddled in and the Disney silliness are good clues that we shouldn't want his authoritarian chaos anywhere near the presidency.
The Minnesota Supreme Court declined to become the first in history to use Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to prevent someone from running for the presidency. The court dodged the central question of the lawsuit — does Trump's role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol disqualify him from the presidency — by ruling that state law allows parties to put whomever they want on the primary ballot.
"There is no state statute that prohibits a major political party from placing on the presidential nomination primary ballot, or sending delegates to the national convention supporting, a candidate who is ineligible to hold office,” Chief Justice Natalie Hudson ruled.
I see this as a lazy judicial response. The constitution outlines the qualifications and disqualification for national office and the presidency and the states are supposed to file the constitution. They are basically saying that it's OK for the state to offer up a candidate who is not qualified for office on their official ballot. That's a crazy thing.
I think this is what they might be having trouble with on January 6th. Does his role disqualify him for what happened out of his control on that day? That's hard to define.
One of his indictments "accuses Trump and six unindicted, unnamed co-conspirators of knowingly spreading lies that there was widespread "fraud in the election and that he had actually won," ultimately leading to the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol. Trump denies wrongdoing." I don't believe it's gone to trial yet has it?
I believe the above indictment to be true but it gets a little shaky to invoke the 14th amendment currently.
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I think this is what they might be having trouble with on January 6th. Does his role disqualify him for what happened out of his control on that day? That's hard to define.
One of his indictments "accuses Trump and six unindicted, unnamed co-conspirators of knowingly spreading lies that there was widespread "fraud in the election and that he had actually won," ultimately leading to the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol. Trump denies wrongdoing." I don't believe it's gone to trial yet has it?
I believe the above indictment to be true but it gets a little shaky to invoke the 14th amendment currently.
I understand.
Do you know who Judge Luttig is? He feels very confident that the amendment was written specifically to prevent people like Trump from ascending into power.
Any leader, Republican or Democrat, who has not spoken against January 6 and the former president's role in it has betrayed their oath.
January 6 and what the former president did is not politics. And it certainly is not partisan politics. This is far above and beyond politics.
And, as we now know, it's literally crimes against the United States of America. But all of our politicians, and especially the Republicans, have regarded it as nothing more than politics. In that respect, they have failed Americans. It's critical to American democracy that you have two very strong political parties who are competing against each other on the issues, the public policy issues before the nation.
We can't have one party who is supporting and defending what occurred on January 6, together with the president of the United States who caused January 6. We can't have that. We cannot function until the Republican Party comes to its senses.
And, in my view, I don't consider the Republican Party a political party in the United States at the moment.
Gas lighting the public about Trump and his attempt to seize lost power in 2020 is a fatal illness for the GOP. Let's just hope that it's not fatal for our democracy.
I see this as a lazy judicial response. The constitution outlines the qualifications and disqualification for national office and the presidency and the states are supposed to file the constitution. They are basically saying that it's OK for the state to offer up a candidate who is not qualified for office on their official ballot. That's a crazy thing.
They are afraid that the opposition will bring guns to march in front of their houses after they dox them.
The GOP cavalry is riding in to try to fight off the legal threats to Trump's status. Again.
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Stefanik's letter discusses the clerk at length, detailing her purported political donations to Democratic donors and causes and criticizing the gag order.
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"If anyone in America must have the constitutional right to speak out against the judge, his staff, the witnesses, or the process, it's a defendant going through a process he believes is politicized and weaponized against him,” Stefanik wrote. "To gag a defendant is un-American.”
Gag orders aren't un-American but Trump's conduct and language are certainly unpresidential and unprecedented, as is the desire of the Republicans in congress to interfere on his behalf while they investigate the business of a private citizen. The hopes of damaging the Biden family name sufficiently to adversely affect the political future of the current president has proven to be a powerful temptation for members of the GOP.
We observed a similar struggle with ethics and honorable intentions when the GOP was using congressional investigations to try to damage Hillary Clinton's presidential bid. It worked then and their efforts are taking a toll today on the opinions of everyday Americans who don't follow politics as closely as some of us. We do like to pretend, though, that we are unaware of the republican game plan or intentions as they pursue another presidency. Their tactics, like their politics, are a bit stale and are identifiable.
Personally, I don't feel bad about deadly force being used against the Cartel. If you think that is a "vocabulary of violence", well OK.
Two of your three examples of "vocabulary of violence" is about ripping up legislation and policy and throwing them in the trash? Are you serious?
Yes. DeSantis repeatedly uses language like fight, rip, shoot them dead, slit their throats, grab that little elf and throw him across the Potomac, intentionally. He sounds more like a tinpot dictator than an American president.
But if that is your style of leader then you should vote for that.
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Personally, I don't feel bad about deadly force being used against the Cartel. If you think that is a "vocabulary of violence", well OK.
Two of your three examples of "vocabulary of violence" is about ripping up legislation and policy and throwing them in the trash? Are you serious?