I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
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Crusades said:
Yes. Let's belive an old washed out porn start that was trying to advance her career by using her work equipment. Who openly says she will violate the court order payment she owes Trump.
His been found liable for sexual assult, not rape in civil court. He has never been charged and convicted in criminal court.
A person can be a narcissist, womanizer, rude and generally unpleasant, and yet be a fabulous POTUS.
You believe an old pathological liar and conman who cheated on his 3rd wife with the porn star. Your standards are much too high to believe that woman and so you say unflattering things about her. I get it. It's definitely modeled behavior in republican politics.
The judge in the case said that what Trump did was rape and what was described sounds like rape to me. In terms of character, that's what matters. You get to decide if that matters to you.
Perhaps a person could be all of those things and be a good president, but Trump is not an example of that combination. We've discussed before the ways in which Trump's presidency is measured against other presidencies and Trump does not compare well, much less rise to the ideal of "fabulous". Worst is not fabulous. Rock bottom is not fabulous. 41 of 44 is not fabulous.
And then he tried to overthrow the elected government and retain lost power.
It's crazy that people believe that guy, but here we are.
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Beerman said:
We have one candidate who auctioned off leases that the next president had to honor, and that led to our current record oil and gas production.
The other candidate supported the Green New Deal. The U.S. Gas and Oil Association has had a issue with her and her VP candidate taking credit for record production, and say the record production happened despite the current administration.
So, I easily know which candidate is most likely to support a policy I agree with.
Did you just give Trump credit for oil production under Biden? I think that's an admission that production is up, which contradicts the Trump narrative about what's going on.
To further help the industry, Trump urged agencies to waive environmental reviews and loosen regulations in ways that could speed up permits for pipeline construction and other energy infrastructure. The Trump administration also opened more U.S. coastal waters for oil and gas leasing, but Trump later rolled this back, banning coastal drilling for 10 years in the eastern Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic coasts of Florida, Georgia and South Carolina. At the time, opposition to drilling in those states threatened several Republican candidates' 2020 election bids.
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the Biden-Harris administration also gave the go-ahead for the nation's largest oil drilling operation, ConocoPhillips' vast Willow project in Alaska. And the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022, considered the administration's signature climate law, included additional oil and gas leasing and incentives to capture carbon dioxide for use in enhanced oil recovery.
You believe an old pathological liar and conman who cheated on his 3rd wife with the porn star. Your standards are much too high to believe that woman and so you say unflattering things about her. I get it. It's definitely modeled behavior in republican politics.
The judge in the case said that what Trump did was rape and what was described sounds like rape to me. In terms of character, that's what matters. You get to decide if that matters to you.
Perhaps a person could be all of those things and be a good president, but Trump is not an example of that combination. We've discussed before the ways in which Trump's presidency is measured against other presidencies and Trump does not compare well, much less rise to the ideal of "fabulous". Worst is not fabulous. Rock bottom is not fabulous. 41 of 44 is not fabulous.
And then he tried to overthrow the elected government and retain lost power.
It's crazy that people believe that guy, but here we are.
I'm not too versed in marital infidelity. Perhaps Harris can ask his husband to explain. Oh even better, let's ask Clinton. Or the next time Trump wants to cheat, he should do it right in the oval office
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Beerman said:
You mean they survey sent out to scholars that had a 20% response rate and ranked Biden 13th best and Carter as the most underrated? LOL...I'm sure those who bothered with it weren't biased against Trump.
By all means though, go ahead and cite it again. I know how much we all love to hear you repeat yourself over and over and over again.
That's the typical strategy, diminish and criticize the voices of scholars or historians which might look at and assess Trump's official performance with some measure of objectivity. We've seen that play before, slightly different supporting characters and different setting but the storyline and plot are all so familiar.
We have one candidate who auctioned off leases that the next president had to honor, and that led to our current record oil and gas production.
The other candidate supported the Green New Deal. The U.S. Gas and Oil Association has had a issue with her and her VP candidate taking credit for record production, and say the record production happened despite the current administration.
So, I easily know which candidate is most likely to support a policy I agree with.
Not to mention when she was seeking vote for her 2020 presidential run, she dropped out in the very beginning. When she wasn't able to be inserted as the candidate and running on Biden's coat tails. We all know she would never win a primary on her own.
And it has nothing to do with her race and genitalia @toomuchbaloney
That's the typical strategy, diminish and criticize the voices of scholars or historians which might look at and assess Trump's official performance with some measure of objectivity. We've seen that play before, slightly different supporting characters and different setting but the storyline and plot are all so familiar.
Yes. Let's take the words of "scholars and historians" when they were and most likely still involved in academia which is very left leaning. So "Objective" is a stretch.
You have no problem critizing those with a differnt opinion so why would ypu care about " criticism and diminishing"?
It doesn't matter what these scholars think or feel. The votes matter.
Trumps tax policy is tax breaks for the wealthy. Steep tariffs on products purchased by everyday Americans. Trump's immigration policy is rhetoric based in racism and fascist fear mongering about others. Trump killed the immigration bill because he needs to have a problem, not a solution. Trump's foreign policy includes things like dismantling NATO, giving classified information to Russians, or taking Putin's side over the free world's intelligence reports. Trump's gun policy is whatever he's told it needs to be to get the NRA's voting block.
What is a woke policy... would it be a policy that says that the government will pay for people to get IVF?
Those things are important, especially if one is basing the vote in facts and evidence in addition to feelings. Because the facts and evidence also includes some very important and not very flattering things about Trump as a leader, and as a man. He is who he is. Not only is he a man with a very long history of narcissism (which makes lasting marriage or long term friendships difficult) but he is also an adjudicated sexual abuser and fraud. Trump is the guy who demonstrated epically bad business judgment and acumen and then got involved in a reality TV show that built an entire persona around his guided lifestyle that sold millions of Americans a lie about who he was and is.
Trump is a pathological liar who cannot admit failure or loss. He had an incredibly corrupt cabinet and a number of his close associates are felons, further evidence of his terrible judgment and discernment. He tried to overthrow the government when he lost the election because of his incompetence as a leader during a crisis.
No I wouldn't say that a policy is more important than disqualifying character flaws or mental illness or obvious cognitive decline in a candidate.
We have one candidate who auctioned off leases that the next president had to honor, and that led to our current record oil and gas production.
The other candidate supported the Green New Deal. The U.S. Gas and Oil Association has had a issue with her and her VP candidate taking credit for record production, and say the record production happened despite the current administration.
So, I easily know which candidate is most likely to support a policy I agree with.
I don't believe I said anything about who gets credit for record oil production so I'm not sure why you bring that up.
But why aren't prices lower with record production? I mean prices are lower than they were, but not as low as 2020.
I don't believe I said anything about who gets credit for record oil production so I'm not sure why you bring that up.
But why aren't prices lower with record production? I mean prices are lower than they were, but not as low as 2020.
Just more background as to why I prefer Trump on that issue.
I agree with you that increased production isn't the only factor is gas prices.
Finally a Trump supporter admits that support of Trump is emotionally and not factually or evidence based.
That's why Trump can be a rapist and a felon and a racist who tried to overthrow our government and he can talk about retribution and jailing his political enemies and Arnold Palmers penis and still not lose a vote. It's not about his ability to do the job or follow the law, it's about how he makes his fan base feel. It's a cult of personality.
Yes, it's about feelings. Anyone who votes for Trump would have voted for Jim Jones' Kool-Ade as a delicious cold treat. Over Sunday supper with friends tonight, we all agreed that they would vote for him if he raped that boy-child on stage. Trump, of course, would blame the child for being provocative.
Yes, it's about feelings. Anyone who votes for Trump would have voted for Jim Jones' Kool-Ade as a delicious cold treat. Over Sunday supper with friends tonight, we all agreed that they would vote for him if he raped that boy-child on stage. Trump, of course, would blame the child for being provocative.
I'm thankful I don't see the world from your perspective. But, thanks for the reminder of how much time I waste here.
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You believe an old pathological liar and conman who cheated on his 3rd wife with the porn star. Your standards are much too high to believe that woman and so you say unflattering things about her. I get it. It's definitely modeled behavior in republican politics.
The judge in the case said that what Trump did was rape and what was described sounds like rape to me. In terms of character, that's what matters. You get to decide if that matters to you.
Perhaps a person could be all of those things and be a good president, but Trump is not an example of that combination. We've discussed before the ways in which Trump's presidency is measured against other presidencies and Trump does not compare well, much less rise to the ideal of "fabulous". Worst is not fabulous. Rock bottom is not fabulous. 41 of 44 is not fabulous.
And then he tried to overthrow the elected government and retain lost power.
It's crazy that people believe that guy, but here we are.