I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
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nursej22 said:
I don't believe I said anything about who gets credit for record oil production so I'm not sure why you bring that up.
But why aren't prices lower with record production? I mean prices are lower than they were, but not as low as 2020.
There was an entire mismanaged pandemic that put the brakes on travel globally. Low demand resulted in low prices.
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Crusades said:
Yes. Let's take the words of "scholars and historians" when they were and most likely still involved in academia which is very left leaning. So "Objective" is a stretch.
You have no problem critizing those with a differnt opinion so why would ypu care about " criticism and diminishing"?
It doesn't matter what these scholars think or feel. The votes matter.
It sounds like you are so indoctrinated that you can't even consider "left leaning opinions" from experts or historians anymore if they don't describe Trump in glowing terms. All you have to do to ignore their important work and just call it "left leaning" and suddenly that curated ignorance is acceptable in Trump world. Do you realize that is exactly the way cult members behave?
Beerman said:
I'm thankful I don't see the world from your perspective. But, thanks for the reminder of how much time I waste here.
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Crusades said:
I'm not too versed in marital infidelity. Perhaps Harris can ask his husband to explain. Oh even better, let's ask Clinton. Or the next time Trump wants to cheat, he should do it right in the oval office
Yikes... that's a weird way to try to justify voting for a guy who has zero fidelity to anything that's not himself. Trump cheated on his first wife with his second wife. His first wife wrote once in a book that Trump raped her. He cheated on his second wife with a string of models. He cheated on his 3rd and current wife repeatedly. The unfaithful cad joked about having sex with his daughter when he wasn't a peeping Tom at the teen beauty pagents associated with his name. Your candidate has so much more experience and expertise at lying and infidelity, why would you want to ask someone else? He's the expert.
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Crusades said:
Not to mention when she was seeking vote for her 2020 presidential run, she dropped out in the very beginning. When she wasn't able to be inserted as the candidate and running on Biden's coat tails. We all know she would never win a primary on her own.
And it has nothing to do with her race and genitalia @toomuchbaloney
This isn't 2020.
In May of 2020 Trump was already telling people at his rallies that democrats were going to cheat on rigged elections. He's still telling that lie. The only difference is now he's telling that lie while also behaving in ways which reveal his underlying mental illness and cognitive decline.
In May of 2020 Trump was already telling people at his rallies that democrats were going to cheat on rigged elections. He's still telling that lie. The only difference is now he's telling that lie while also behaving in ways which reveal his underlying mental illness and cognitive decline.
Freedom of speech. Said by Trump allegedly in 2020.
This isn't 2020
How convenient.
Free speech I don't like is symptoms of mental illness and dementia.
Yikes... that's a weird way to try to justify voting for a guy who has zero fidelity to anything that's not himself. Trump cheated on his first wife with his second wife. His first wife wrote once in a book that Trump raped her. He cheated on his second wife with a string of models. He cheated on his 3rd and current wife repeatedly. The unfaithful cad joked about having sex with his daughter when he wasn't a peeping Tom at the teen beauty pagents associated with his name. Your candidate has so much more experience and expertise at lying and infidelity, why would you want to ask someone else? He's the expert.
You would think that will all these rapes at least one of them would have filed criminal charges. I wonder why they would disclose the rape in a book they are trying to sell?
Orv25 yrs later when it politically and monetarily valuable.
Clinton had sexual relations with a woman in the Oval Office. LOL
It sounds like you are so indoctrinated that you can't even consider "left leaning opinions" from experts or historians anymore if they don't describe Trump in glowing terms. All you have to do to ignore their important work and just call it "left leaning" and suddenly that curated ignorance is acceptable in Trump world. Do you realize that is exactly the way cult members behave?
Do you see the world from Trump's perspective?
It sounds like you are so much in denial that you couldn't possibly watch/read etc anything about Trump and politics with iut total and complete bias. And hatred.
You think Trump is more in decline in Biden when even the left is not pushing this as hard as you are. Loool
I'm thankful I don't see the world from your perspective. But, thanks for the reminder of how much time I waste here.
Considering the opportunity to understand another POV to be a waste of time is practically the definition of fake conservatism. When coupled with the drive for power to control others' choices, it becomes fascism.
Why should that endorsement carry weight with me? His endorsement ignores Trump's treason, his incompetent leadership in a global pandemic, his felonies and the associated unsavory and disqualifying behavior, his pathological lying, his fixation on retribution, and ignores the growing evidence that Trump is not only mentally ill but also suffering from dementia. Ignoring important details, or minimizing their importance makes the endorsement misguided, IMV. I wonder if the head CT that "Dr" Ronnie said they did after the shooting shows any interesting features of Trump's frontal lobe.
I have an idea why lots of people will still for Trump. You and Beerman have represented the best of those arguments in these threads, right?
Now it seems like we're down to the reality that lots of people will vote for Trump because of their feelings. Not because of the facts or the evidence or reality or warnings or history or common sense... but because they have strong feelings about the man.
Here's an interesting conundrum in your last sentence. The Trump people are voting on feelings not truth or facts or evidence or patriotism. Feelings. Not feelings about the rule of law, not feelings about preservation of the republic, not feelings about competence, but feelings about a man. People feeling strongly about Trump are now calling treason patriotism and truth propaganda.
The only feelings that matter are how they feel they will vote.
Facts and evidence like the violent crime rate was down 2.5 % but was actually up 4.5%? These facts? When the FBI quietly updated ?
Considering the opportunity to understand another POV to be a waste of time is practically the definition of fake conservatism. When coupled with the drive for power to control others' choices, it becomes fascism.
Oh really? How much time shall I give to consider that Trump wouldn't lose a vote if he raped a boy on stage? Or that conservative politicians talk about genitals to manipulate their voters? Shall I spend time pondering the validity of the Mango Mussolini nickname?
And these thoughts coming from folks who continually dismiss Trump voters as brainless cult followers who value his Hitler-like attributes.
I appreciate how much consideration you've given my pov over the years, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the above.
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Crusades said:
You would think that will all these rapes at least one of them would have filed criminal charges. I wonder why they would disclose the rape in a book they are trying to sell?
Orv25 yrs later when it politically and monetarily valuable.
Clinton had sexual relations with a woman in the Oval Office. LOL
It almost sounds like you have no idea why women might hesitate to make rape claims against a well known wealthy and influential bully. First you defend the man by criticizing the victim, and then you deflect to another philanderer as if that makes Trump's abuse of women over his lifetime somehow acceptable.
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Crusades said:
Freedom of speech. Said by Trump allegedly in 2020.
This isn't 2020
How convenient.
Free speech I don't like is symptoms of mental illness and dementia.
Your ignorance of what Trump has said or done is evidence of what, in your mind?
Free speech that Trump doesn't like is apparently evidence that the speaker is an enemy within. At least that is what he implied the other day when he talked about using the military to take care of them. Is talk like that that a symptom of Trump's mental illness or his fascism?
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There was an entire mismanaged pandemic that put the brakes on travel globally. Low demand resulted in low prices.