I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
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Crusades said:
No. I'm asking ypu to provide the evidence that I defended "racist tropes". It seems you are only able to deflect to worn out Trump talking points.
Considering you refuse, I'll conclude that I dod not defend any racist tropes.
Trump was found liable in civil Court where the burden of proof is much lower than CRIMINAL court. You omitted that part. When someone can be held civilly liable for burning themselfs by spilling coffee on themselfs and we as nurses have to coddle patients lest we trigger our administrators fear of being sued by anything and everything, a civil law is joke. Especially in the #metoo and #believe all women era. I believe women until they decide 25 yrs later that they want to report a rape that they know would not hold a burden of proof like in a criminal case, then offers Maddow a shopping spree with the money she won.
I know what you asked.
You can conclude what you want, we all read your words and defense of racist language in these threads.
Trump is a felon. Trump raped a woman and is credibly accused of multiple sexual assaults while having an audio record of him admitting to sexually abusing women and young girls. He joked regularly about having sex with his daughter and told a poen star that she reminded him of his daughter before he had extramarital sex with her. It's important to talk about character flaws like that in a candidate, right?
You seem to have deflected to a bunch of stuff that isn't related to the election or either candidate.
Is that "better" by a measurable standard or just "better" as a feeling? I think it must be a feeling because Trump was a measurably bad president his first term while the last 4 years have been pretty remarkably productive... even with congressional Republicans obstructing all manner of governance.
It's important to remember that Trump was ranked very lowly as a president and Biden was highly ranked in terms of getting stuff done that benefits the country. Should I cite that again?
You mean they survey sent out to scholars that had a 20% response rate and ranked Biden 13th best and Carter as the most underrated? LOL...I'm sure those who bothered with it weren't biased against Trump.
By all means though, go ahead and cite it again. I know how much we all love to hear you repeat yourself over and over and over again.
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Crusades said:
It most certainly does bear weight. And it should for ypu.
Want to know Why so many people are stilli voting for Trump with all his flaws this is why. You have your answer.
It's not important to people the next scandal that is thrown at Trump. People will vote on how they felt under a Trump presidency, not what the propaganda of the day of democrats.
Why should that endorsement carry weight with me? His endorsement ignores Trump's treason, his incompetent leadership in a global pandemic, his felonies and the associated unsavory and disqualifying behavior, his pathological lying, his fixation on retribution, and ignores the growing evidence that Trump is not only mentally ill but also suffering from dementia. Ignoring important details, or minimizing their importance makes the endorsement misguided, IMV. I wonder if the head CT that "Dr" Ronnie said they did after the shooting shows any interesting features of Trump's frontal lobe.
I have an idea why lots of people will still for Trump. You and Beerman have represented the best of those arguments in these threads, right?
Now it seems like we're down to the reality that lots of people will vote for Trump because of their feelings. Not because of the facts or the evidence or reality or warnings or history or common sense... but because they have strong feelings about the man.
Here's an interesting conundrum in your last sentence. The Trump people are voting on feelings not truth or facts or evidence or patriotism. Feelings. Not feelings about the rule of law, not feelings about preservation of the republic, not feelings about competence, but feelings about a man. People feeling strongly about Trump are now calling treason patriotism and truth propaganda.
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Crusades said:
He going to vote for Trump because when Trump was in office his family was better off, simple as that. The border was secure, no new world wars and families were less worried by the increased rate of crime 4.9%. They had hoped they would have a say in what's taught to their children and that even if "nobody would do it" there were no laws that would allow abortion up to later pregnancy for other than maternal safety.. Now that Trump supports reasonable abortion access, this is not a disqualifying point any longer.
The democrats shpuld have been more diligent about the things Americans care abput, not demonizing and insulting half the country.
That's why this man and millions of others will vote for Trump.
He's going to ignore the very many disqualifying facts and details about Trump to vote for him based upon his feelings.
Trump has definitely demonized and insulted lots and lots of Americans, it's weird that you thought we would all just go along with that projection. Trump is the king of insults. Just the other day he insulted Detroit while he was in Detroit.
Ramsey and you and Beerman and millions of other will ignore the disqualifying behavior and character flaws to vote for Trump because of feelings. You've been conditioned to feel like that's OK, even when warned that it is a threat to our republic to do so. These are perilous times.
He's going to ignore the very many disqualifying facts and details about Trump to vote for him based upon his feelings.
Trump has definitely demonized and insulted lots and lots of Americans, it's weird that you thought we would all just go along with that projection. Trump is the king of insults. Just the other day he insulted Detroit while he was in Detroit.
Ramsey and you and Beerman and millions of other will ignore the disqualifying behavior and character flaws to vote for Trump because of feelings. You've been conditioned to feel like that's OK, even when warned that it is a threat to our republic to do so. These are perilous times.
Trump does throw immature petty insults but do you know what he doesn't do? Go after democrat voters. He hasn't made his campaign by calling the voters names or likening them to Hitler/supremist/domestic terrorist and cult victims.
Half the country doesn't believe Trump is a "threat to our democracy" . Or half the country has been "conditioned", are you really making that unlikely argument?
A "mentally ill man in cognitive decline" is competent enough to "try and overthrow our Democracy " and "condition half the country". That's some interesting mental health/cognitive decline ability right there.
Circling back to what Mr. Ramsey stated as his reasons for supporting Trump, he comments that driving down energy, by increased oil production, will control inflation is silly. Oil/energy prices are far more complicated than American supply and demand. This ignores in the influence of war, OPEC, and weather. Im sure y'all remember the crazy low oil prices during the pandemic. Oil was at a negative cost, domestic oil production shut off because it was too expensive to drill. Trump had to shore up oil costs. And OPEC cuts down production if the price of oil gets too low. And the Keystone pipeline is meant to carry Canadian oil to Texas, to export. That won't change the price of US energy.
Mr. Trump seemly thinks the US can just isolate itself from the rest of the world and control costs. Thats just not feasible. Inflation was/is a world-wide phenomenon, in large part due to the global pandemic, plus wars, politics( Brexit) and climate catastrophes. The US has recovered better than most. Inflation was much higher in the 70's. Some of us here remember that. And prices never came down, but wages sort of caught up.
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nursej22 said:
Circling back to what Mr. Ramsey stated as his reasons for supporting Trump, he comments that driving down energy, by increased oil production, will control inflation is silly. Oil/energy prices are far more complicated than American supply and demand. This ignores in the influence of war, OPEC, and weather. Im sure y'all remember the crazy low oil prices during the pandemic. Oil was at a negative cost, domestic oil production shut off because it was too expensive to drill. Trump had to shore up oil costs. And OPEC cuts down production if the price of oil gets too low. And the Keystone pipeline is meant to carry Canadian oil to Texas, to export. That won't change the price of US energy.
Mr. Trump seemly thinks the US can just isolate itself from the rest of the world and control costs. Thats just not feasible. Inflation was/is a world-wide phenomenon, in large part due to the global pandemic, plus wars, politics( Brexit) and climate catastrophes. The US has recovered better than most. Inflation was much higher in the 70's. Some of us here remember that. And prices never came down, but wages sort of caught up.
Not to mention the fact that oil production is at historic highs under Biden's administration.
Not to mention the fact that oil production is at historic highs under Biden's administration.
And it belongs to multinational corporations, not the government. They set the price. Unless, Trump is thinking he is going to nationalize oil production so that he can pay for childcare?
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Crusades said:
Trump does throw immature petty insults but do you know what he doesn't do? Go after democrat voters. He hasn't made his campaign by calling the voters names or likening them to Hitler/supremist/domestic terrorist and cult victims.
Half the country doesn't believe Trump is a "threat to our democracy" . Or half the country has been "conditioned", are you really making that unlikely argument?
A "mentally ill man in cognitive decline" is competent enough to "try and overthrow our Democracy " and "condition half the country". That's some interesting mental health/cognitive decline ability right there.
Trump has started calling democratic voters "the enemy within" and suggesting that the military might be needed to take care of that enemy, that directly contradicts your claim. Trump has absolutely campaigned in 2016, 2020, and now in 2024, with name calling his opposition as a central feature of his strategy. That directly contradicts your claim.
Your last couple of paragraphs makes me think that you are struggling to discuss the growing evidence of Trump's illness and cognitive decline. I think you are trying to make an illogical point by using sarcasm. What's going on?
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nursej22 said:
And it belongs to multinational corporations, not the government. They set the price. Unless, Trump is thinking he is going to nationalize oil production so that he can pay for childcare?
It's difficult to know what Trump might be thinking. His thought patterns are chaotic and disorganized.
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I know what you asked.
You can conclude what you want, we all read your words and defense of racist language in these threads.
Trump is a felon. Trump raped a woman and is credibly accused of multiple sexual assaults while having an audio record of him admitting to sexually abusing women and young girls. He joked regularly about having sex with his daughter and told a poen star that she reminded him of his daughter before he had extramarital sex with her. It's important to talk about character flaws like that in a candidate, right?
You seem to have deflected to a bunch of stuff that isn't related to the election or either candidate.