I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
Does this endorsement carry some specific weight or significance? I wonder, because it's pretty clear that Trump would have a difficult time communicating specific policy ideas or details going forward. It's not realistic to expect Trump would be running the show in his current state.
And, whatever....the endorsement by him doesn't matter. The point to be taken was how he arrived at who he is going to vote for, despite Trump's real and perceived flaws.
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Beerman said:
And, whatever....the endorsement by him doesn't matter. The point to be taken was how he arrived at who he is going to vote for, despite Trump's real and perceived flaws.
So he's going to ignore the disqualifying character flaws and failures to vote for Trump based upon perceived strengths? And that was inspiring?
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Beerman said:
His "current state"?
Trump, or Vance. Either way is good with me. Much better than those running the show the last 4 years.
Is that "better" by a measurable standard or just "better" as a feeling? I think it must be a feeling because Trump was a measurably bad president his first term while the last 4 years have been pretty remarkably productive... even with congressional Republicans obstructing all manner of governance.
It's important to remember that Trump was ranked very lowly as a president and Biden was highly ranked in terms of getting stuff done that benefits the country. Should I cite that again?
I'm not following the rant about trafficking. It was Trump who raped at least one woman (proven in court)and bragged about his sexual abuse of women (there's receipts)during the time he was socializing with the well known trafficker. Now that same guy is clearly struggling with significant cognitive decline after recently making a big stink about someone else's cognition. Are you trying to make Harris seem as morally bankrupt as Trump?
You've got your work cut out for you.
No. I'm asking ypu to provide the evidence that I defended "racist tropes". It seems you are only able to deflect to worn out Trump talking points.
Considering you refuse, I'll conclude that I dod not defend any racist tropes.
Trump was found liable in civil Court where the burden of proof is much lower than CRIMINAL court. You omitted that part. When someone can be held civilly liable for burning themselfs by spilling coffee on themselfs and we as nurses have to coddle patients lest we trigger our administrators fear of being sued by anything and everything, a civil law is joke. Especially in the #metoo and #believe all women era. I believe women until they decide 25 yrs later that they want to report a rape that they know would not hold a burden of proof like in a criminal case, then offers Maddow a shopping spree with the money she won.
Does this endorsement carry some specific weight or significance? I wonder, because it's pretty clear that Trump would have a difficult time communicating specific policy ideas or details going forward. It's not realistic to expect Trump would be running the show in his current state.
It most certainly does bear weight. And it should for ypu.
Want to know Why so many people are stilli voting for Trump with all his flaws this is why. You have your answer.
It's not important to people the next scandal that is thrown at Trump. People will vote on how they felt under a Trump presidency, not what the propaganda of the day of democrats.
So he's going to ignore the disqualifying character flaws and failures to vote for Trump based upon perceived strengths? And that was inspiring?
He going to vote for Trump because when Trump was in office his family was better off, simple as that. The border was secure, no new world wars and families were less worried by the increased rate of crime 4.9%. They had hoped they would have a say in what's taught to their children and that even if "nobody would do it" there were no laws that would allow abortion up to later pregnancy for other than maternal safety.. Now that Trump supports reasonable abortion access, this is not a disqualifying point any longer.
The democrats shpuld have been more diligent about the things Americans care abput, not demonizing and insulting half the country.
That's why this man and millions of others will vote for Trump.
So he's going to ignore the disqualifying character flaws and failures to vote for Trump based upon perceived strengths? And that was inspiring?
He going to vote for Trump because when Trump was in office his family was better off, simple as that. The border was secure, no new world wars and families were less worried by the increased rate of crime 4.9%. They had hoped they would have a say in what's taught to their children and that even if "nobody would do it" there were no laws that would allow abortion up to later pregnancy for other than maternal safety.. Now that Trump supports reasonable abortion access, this is not a disqualifying point any longer.
The democrats shpuld have been more diligent about the things Americans care abput, not demonizing and insulting half the country.
That's why this man and millions of others will vote for Trump.
Is that "better" by a measurable standard or just "better" as a feeling? I think it must be a feeling because Trump was a measurably bad president his first term while the last 4 years have been pretty remarkably productive... even with congressional Republicans obstructing all manner of governance.
It's important to remember that Trump was ranked very lowly as a president and Biden was highly ranked in terms of getting stuff done that benefits the country. Should I cite that again?
Yes feeling. The voters will vote on how they felt. Humans have feelings. Like you so often like to dismiss or imply having a feeling isn't important or irrational
So unless you can convince millions of Americans their feeling don't matter, this off base tactic of the democrats reflected by you may see Trump win the 2024 election.
And, whatever....the endorsement by him doesn't matter. The point to be taken was how he arrived at who he is going to vote for, despite Trump's real and perceived flaws.
So he's going to ignore the disqualifying character flaws and failures to vote for Trump based upon perceived strengths? And that was inspiring?
Once again, you missed the point. He says, and I agree, that what comes down to is Americans asking selves these and other question:
"Where am I most likely to get a tax policy that I like? Where am I most likely to get an immigration policy I like? Where am I most likely to get a foreign policy I like? Where am I most likely to get a gun policy I like? A climate change policy I like? A woke policy I like? That I agree with."
Obviously, your answers would be different than mine. But, wouldn't you agree that these things are more important than each candidates real and perceived flaws?
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Crusades said:
Yes feeling. The voters will vote on how they felt. Humans have feelings. Like you so often like to dismiss or imply having a feeling isn't important or irrational
So unless you can convince millions of Americans their feeling don't matter, this off base tactic of the democrats reflected by you may see Trump win the 2024 election.
Finally a Trump supporter admits that support of Trump is emotionally and not factually or evidence based.
That's why Trump can be a rapist and a felon and a racist who tried to overthrow our government and he can talk about retribution and jailing his political enemies and Arnold Palmers penis and still not lose a vote. It's not about his ability to do the job or follow the law, it's about how he makes his fan base feel. It's a cult of personality.
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And, whatever....the endorsement by him doesn't matter. The point to be taken was how he arrived at who he is going to vote for, despite Trump's real and perceived flaws.