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I am a Male RN with about 8 years of work experience in the ER, Prison, Acute PTSD/TBI @ the VA. I came from another Industry (Aviation/Airline), after 9/11 retrained into Nursing with the thought of doing something that "Matters" instead of making a corporation another pile of $$$$. After 8 years this has been my Observation of the current state of affairs within Nursing.

1) I have never been so poorly treated within a professional career as I have been with nursing, Managers MD's and Patients all use you as a human punching bag (I can tolerate some of this from a sick PT but not my peers and above). Unprofessionalism often rules and vengeful remarks and treatment are the norms..ie... I have heard the following from RN's,MD,managers..."shes a stupid ***** (MD), you need to find another line of work (MBA manager to new grad), "you need to pass those meds faster , whats wrong with you, cant hack it" (Charge RN).

2) Call offs and low pay...Name any other profession where you have to take hard earned leave or rotate to a totally different unit and are expected to perform (Board of nursing should demand changes to this its unsafe). BSN starting at 17 to 19 a hr nationwide avg...really...MSN with 5 years unless specially trained 60K...for real...(Bank of America pays a avg of 70 k to 100k for mid level MBA's)

I retired from USAirways in 2003, there were troubles galore with the company..but I was paid well, had exc healthcare...WAS TREATED AS A PROFESSIONAL...WHICH I WAS AND STILL AM.

Nursing as a profession.......only if you join the service as my wife did (CDR USN ret) ....to a hospital your a expenditure that they work like a dog, then throw away.

Its a sad state only getting worse as the economy is slow and Obama care will reshape the industry in pay and quality of care.

Good By Nursing.....it was a experience of a life ...time to do other things.

Specializes in ICU.

@Wooh: yes, you are right. Hardly any unions here in the deep south, plus most people won't listen to you talk about unions, anyway. Nursing salaries may be kinda low, but in my state, so is the cost of living and property taxes. BSN's and ADN's make the same around my area~maybe 25 cents difference per hour.

The only way to save our field is for nurses everywhere to start unionizing. Its time for nurses especially in the south to start realizing this. Without the unions the future of nursing is doomed. Looks what's happening at Orlando Health, the nurses are fighting for their livelihood.

Specializes in 7 Years ED, 6 Years TBI/PTSD unit VA.

*** Being called off is unacceptable. When I went looking for a new job I decided I simply wasn't going to tolerate being called off anymore. I found a job where I never get called off. Even if there are hardly any patients in the hospital I get to work and am paid, unless I choose to go home or stay home.

I had to work in a diffrent state to find such a job. The reason it is acceptable to be laid off for 4 hours each shift in nursing is because nurses tolerate it. I simply refuse to tolerate it anymore. I think none of us should.

WELL SAID...Do police get pulled on a slow night. Fire Dept...hay... Thing were slow some times at USAIRWAYS...we went to the Training Dept and brushed up on systems

and Sim time.... Call off's are another way senior management (that MBA making well over 600k...yes they make that figure and more) make their numbers.

YOU ARE 100% CORRECT...we hold the power for change...ever heard the phrase "We hang tougher or we hang separately"...it apply s.

I've been in nursing for almost 30 years now, almost a decade as a staff nurse, and in advanced practice since then. I find as I go through life that most people, in most situations, will treat you the way you act like you expect to get treated. I've been assertive and professional throughout my career, and I've found myself in v. few situations over the years in which I've felt significantly mistreated, let alone abused. I've taken a few jobs in which I've ended up "voting with my feet" and finding another job after finding the overall culture not to my liking. I've made a few compromises that suited my needs and purposes at the time. But I've never put up (for long) with working in a setting with which I wasn't reasonably satisfied.

I guess that all of this is to say I'm a member of the "quit whining" club. Nursing is, IMO, the ultimate "big tent" -- there's something for everyone, and, if you are dissatisfied with one job/employer, there are plenty of others. You can make of your career in nursing whatever you want it to be.

Specializes in "Wound care - geriatric care.
Male nurses have a more difficult time handling the abuse of nurses. Women are used to it.

Think about this, Howard.. as a man you got better treatment!

With 8 years of experience, I wouldn't throw in the towel.

You have many options in nursing now.

I work from home as a case manager, making that MBA wage, you can too.

Hummm...interesting I never really thought about that, you might have a point there, there is some truth to that I must admit...

New grad nurses in my area make about 18-19/hr, bsn's only make 50 cent more

Hummm...interesting I never really thought about that, you might have a point there, there is some truth to that I must admit...

Yes, I've seen it first hand. The 2 male nurses on my floor get more respect from pts, dr's, and their peers than female nurses. Most doctors talk to them as a peer, shake their hand, and talk to them in a different tone than I've received from the same doctors myself. Not all dr's are like that of course, but males do get treated better.

Specializes in Gerontology RN-BC and FNP MSN student.

Somedays at work, when I hear some of the things you mentioned, I say to myself- "Thank God I work for God and not man." Then I do a happy dance on the inside because I try not to let others behaviors affect my day . I can only do what I can do and that is keep my attitude and grateful heart in place amongst the crap of everyday life. :D

I am a Male RN with about 8 years of work experience in the ER, Prison, Acute PTSD/TBI @ the VA. I came from another Industry (Aviation/Airline), after 9/11 retrained into Nursing with the thought of doing something that "Matters" instead of making a corporation another pile of $$$$. After 8 years this has been my Observation of the current state of affairs within Nursing.

1) I have never been so poorly treated within a professional career as I have been with nursing, Managers MD's and Patients all use you as a human punching bag (I can tolerate some of this from a sick PT but not my peers and above). Unprofessionalism often rules and vengeful remarks and treatment are the norms..ie... I have heard the following from RN's,MD,managers..."shes a stupid ***** (MD), you need to find another line of work (MBA manager to new grad), "you need to pass those meds faster , whats wrong with you, cant hack it" (Charge RN).

2) Call offs and low pay...Name any other profession where you have to take hard earned leave or rotate to a totally different unit and are expected to perform (Board of nursing should demand changes to this its unsafe). BSN starting at 17 to 19 a hr nationwide avg...really...MSN with 5 years unless specially trained 60K...for real...(Bank of America pays a avg of 70 k to 100k for mid level MBA's)

I retired from USAirways in 2003, there were troubles galore with the company..but I was paid well, had exc healthcare...WAS TREATED AS A PROFESSIONAL...WHICH I WAS AND STILL AM.

Nursing as a profession.......only if you join the service as my wife did (CDR USN ret) ....to a hospital your a expenditure that they work like a dog, then throw away.

Its a sad state only getting worse as the economy is slow and Obama care will reshape the industry in pay and quality of care.

Good By Nursing.....it was a experience of a life ...time to do other things.

Wow, I have never experienced any of the things you are describing.

Knock wood.

Thank you grntea! Iam sick of the whining too. Lets stick together and make change happen.

Specializes in Gerontology RN-BC and FNP MSN student.

Greentea and No whining? Sounds great! I'm in! :-D

Specializes in CCM, PHN.

I would like to know exactly what projects and political action GrnTea has been working on that contribute to a collective effort to change nursing. I would like to see examples of current efforts GrnTea is making to promote real, measurable change in the nursing profession other than shaming her comrades online for whining. Lead by example, GrnTea, and show us how it's done, not how it's NOT done. Wouldn't that be more conducive to change?

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