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I am a Male RN with about 8 years of work experience in the ER, Prison, Acute PTSD/TBI @ the VA. I came from another Industry (Aviation/Airline), after 9/11 retrained into Nursing with the thought of doing something that "Matters" instead of making a corporation another pile of $$$$. After 8 years this has been my Observation of the current state of affairs within Nursing.

1) I have never been so poorly treated within a professional career as I have been with nursing, Managers MD's and Patients all use you as a human punching bag (I can tolerate some of this from a sick PT but not my peers and above). Unprofessionalism often rules and vengeful remarks and treatment are the norms..ie... I have heard the following from RN's,MD,managers..."shes a stupid ***** (MD), you need to find another line of work (MBA manager to new grad), "you need to pass those meds faster , whats wrong with you, cant hack it" (Charge RN).

2) Call offs and low pay...Name any other profession where you have to take hard earned leave or rotate to a totally different unit and are expected to perform (Board of nursing should demand changes to this its unsafe). BSN starting at 17 to 19 a hr nationwide avg...really...MSN with 5 years unless specially trained 60K...for real...(Bank of America pays a avg of 70 k to 100k for mid level MBA's)

I retired from USAirways in 2003, there were troubles galore with the company..but I was paid well, had exc healthcare...WAS TREATED AS A PROFESSIONAL...WHICH I WAS AND STILL AM.

Nursing as a profession.......only if you join the service as my wife did (CDR USN ret) ....to a hospital your a expenditure that they work like a dog, then throw away.

Its a sad state only getting worse as the economy is slow and Obama care will reshape the industry in pay and quality of care.

Good By Nursing.....it was a experience of a life ...time to do other things.

Specializes in Emergency, Med-Surg, Progressive Care.
I wouldn't trade the warmth I receive from my co-workers for all the money and "respect" in a cut-throat male-dominant profession.

It seems that you have made a sweeping generalization yourself. I inquire to my coworkers about their families and take interest in their stories; being friendly with your coworkers isn't limited to women. The job that I had where I was most 'chummy' with my coworkers was in the military, and my unit had a 10:1 male-to-female ratio.

Specializes in Hem/Onc/BMT.
It seems that you have made a sweeping generalization yourself. I inquire to my coworkers about their families and take interest in their stories; being friendly with your coworkers isn't limited to women. The job that I had where I was most 'chummy' with my coworkers was in the military, and my unit had a 10:1 male-to-female ratio.

I see how my phrase could've been construed. It should've been "some cut-throat male-dominant professions."

I have no doubt about military. I cherished the camaraderie of military as well.

Specializes in geriatrics & profound/mulitp. disability.
A little cheese with that whine?

Rude much? If one does not want to see/hear the "whine" one has the option to pass on reading the post now doesn't one?

A little cheese with that whine?

Rude much? If one does not want to see/hear the "whine" one has the option to pass on reading the post now doesn't one?

I think he/she was just wanting to fire up a response in the readers. Like "I'm going to change my work environment, dag gummit!"

Without too many details, my hospital is cutting bennies and diff's under the excuse ACA is going to bankrupt us. I want to unionize, it's bulldoo what they are doing to us. I have a mind to just throw my career to the wind to try to change something for me and my colleagues. Anyway, I wish I had a least a couple like-minded individuals in my hospital.

Specializes in Acute Care, Rehab, Palliative.

I find the OPs observations on nursing a generalization of his own experiences. I have experienced none of the degrading treatment that he complains of.My coworkers and superiors treat each other just fine.MDs are usually pleasant to deal with, civil if not down right friendly.I don't feel disrespected as a nurse.Abuse from AXO patients is very minimal and certainly not treated as the norm.I didn't recognize his description of nursing at all.

Nursing is in the state it's in today because of complacency and a lack of camaraderie. Where I live (Canada) during the late 80s there were massive strikes (in January, -40 degree weather) initiated by nurses over wages and working conditions. The government deemed the strikes "illegal" and legislated them back to work, but they continued to strike anyway and they were fined something like a million dollars? Emergency rooms were closed for weeks and surgeries were being delayed for months, and finally the government took notice and came to the bargaining table with a reasonable offers. As a result, wages improved (working conditions are another story) and today a new grad RN starts at $35/hr, the highest in the country.

Morale of the story is instead of complaining you should be organizing your resources and demanding better wages and working conditions. Someone once told me you can run an entire hospital with a three physicians and a 100 nurses but, you can't run a hospital with 100 physicians and 5 nurses (not efficiently anyway).

You have to show that as a nurse you are the backbone of the healthcare system and are indispensable. Nurses are always advocating for others, it's time to advocate for yourselves.

Specializes in Critical Care.
*** Being called off is unacceptable. When I went looking for a new job I decided I simply wasn't going to tolerate being called off anymore. I found a job where I never get called off. Even if there are hardly any patients in the hospital I get to work and am paid, unless I choose to go home or stay home.

I had to work in a diffrent state to find such a job. The reason it is acceptable to be laid off for 4 hours each shift in nursing is because nurses tolerate it. I simply refuse to tolerate it anymore. I think none of us should.

We seem to want it both ways. We get upset when we're expected to do housekeeping tasks because we're 'professionals' yet we don't to get called off when there's no additional Nursing services needed. Hospitals can either staff for their busiest times, their slower times, or in between, which means we either have to accept getting called off, or we have to accept mandatory overtime, one of the two (or accept doing whatever needs done, be it housekeeping, dishwashing, whatever).

Specializes in SN, LTC, REHAB, HH.
BSNs starting at $17/hour? Where?
I don't think i wanna know, Yikes!
Specializes in SN, LTC, REHAB, HH.

I totally can relate to the maltreatment by some nurses i've seen this more often than not over my time in nursing. occasionally, you'll run into the nurse that has to but in and remind you that s/he knows more than you do and mention they've been a nurse for x amount of yrs. a lot of backstabbing, gossiping, clicking, you name IT! this is what nursing has become in a lot places.

But how do you not tolerate it? Do you just refuse to leave and keep doing your work?

I don't like getting called off but I don't know anything I can do about it!

(In reply to PMFB-RN)

There are occasions where we get unfairly blamed for things out of our control, but your example is not it. .

yes it is. it was determined that the breakdown was due to pt sitting up in her wheelchair for most of the day .......3 times. and she was offgrounds for pt so i had no access to her

that is way too low for a bsn

Not in the south. We don't like unions down here. We prefer our low wages and freedom.

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