This is more of a vent.... but I am currently in A&P II and I don't know how many times I hear the following things from other students:
1. Can we have a word bank on our exams?
2. This teacher is horrible, the tests are worded so bad. (Really- She spells it out on the study guide.)
3. Why is she being so hard on us?
4. I hear nursing is easier because you don't have to read from the text.
5. WORST PET PEEVE: while looking at a picture of a pathological condition- a pack of girls say how disgusting and nasty the disease is. Is that what you are going to say to the patient who has this condition in the future? Sadly, the one condition they were making fun of was lymphedema...which really isn't "nasty" I could think of much worse.
We were supposed to have a specific teacher that decided to take a different career path. I guess the previous teacher was a cake walk. I didn't have him for A&P I and had to work my buns off for the A that I earned. I just don't understand why all of these people are complaining non-stop about the amount of difficulty and reading. It is hard, but the nursing program is WAY HARDER. They make remarks during lecture, talk the whole time and wonder why they barely passed an exam or got a D. The fact that they are making fun of ill people, TOTALLY disgusts me. I wonder why they even want to be nurses if they don't want to put the work into it, and if they can't feel empathy for someone experiencing an illness.
I want to say to them: This is not going to be easy, Why are you here? You are a waste of space on the waiting list... I hope you don't hurt anyone due to the fact that you hate to study or listen to what the teacher says. Why don't you stop while you are not ahead? Venting session over
That's exactly what they think and the reason they think it is, I believe because it's how nursing school and nursing has been presented to them by the schools.
I am not saying this is wrong, these are businesses with their doors open for a reason, but trying to tell these people that reality diverges significantly from their imagination is pretty moot; they don't want to hear it, have an interest in not believing it, and, frankly, again, have good reason for not believing it since it's contrary to what they have been told.
I have never seen a school present it like nursing would be easy other then the trade school/for profits that ALWAYS have ads running with some girl in scrubs talking about her "great carrer" making "great money" in the "medical field" and how easy and fast it was.....and most cases that is just a clerical/tech/ma training course NOT nursing, but they make it look like it could be nursing since people associate nursing with good money. But i have never seen a BSN, community college or diploma school make it look like nursing was easy, or even advertise thier nursing programs much, if at all....they don't really need to, especially right now. Maybe some do, I just havent seen it.
I know my program (hospital diploma program) had a meet and greet day 3 months ago....before anything other then the admission fee was due (we start this monday). They highly recomended that anyone with no exerience in the medical field attend. Pretty much they took us to the hospital and had us shadow current students for a couple hours. They had other students speek to us. They definiely have never painted a pretty "this will be easy" picture for us. They were blunt about it. And they told us the reason they did the meet and greet day was because they had many students with no health care experience that early on just found out that this was not what they thought it would be like, and quit. They started meet and greet she said they often would lose a couple students from a class after the meet and greet, for that reason.....so before they had to get uniforms, books, supplys, pay tuition and so on.
I just think that some people in community colleges may have a tendency to think that anything offered as an associates degree is easy. And its 2 years so fast (even though in reality it is usually 3, if not 4 years for most). Have been in classes with plenty of people that were planning on going into nursing that can tell that unless they grow up, or change their attitudes about things, you do have to wonder how far they would actually make it in the program.
I really think MEDIA would have more of an impact of how some people may view nursing in general, more so then schools portrayals. Media makes it look like nursing is just a easy side job and Drs do most of the work with the patients......that nurses just follow drs orders on what to do.....how easy is that, someone tells you what to do, and you do it. Give what meds the Drs ordered(not like you have to know what they are or what they do)...take vitals.....some charting....and then just sit around in case a patient pulls the call light...have fun and joke with coworkers in the mean time.....maybe flirt with the cute Dr.(because he has a ton of time on his hands too to stand around and joke and flirt)
lol. love this thread. i'm not going to lie. i used to be one of those people who used to get upset at the professor for being so hard but then again, i didn't show up to class and when i did show up i slept. as crazy as it sounds i think i was the only college student ever to still fall asleep in class like i'm in high school. i didn't talk in class though because that's just rude (as if sleeping is any better). point is, i definitely learned after a few d's and f's that you just have to read the material and pay atttention. i am doing much better and have no sympathy for those who complain. been there done that got nowhere. now i read all of the chapters and take notes, take notes in class, and try to understand the material. i just shrug and ignore those people who claim they didn't have time to read. didn't you just say you were laid off and all of your kids are grown? what the heck? i'm taking 12 credits and work 40 hours. give me a break.
lol. love this thread. i'm not going to lie. i used to be one of those people who used to get upset at the professor for being so hard but then again, i didn't show up to class and when i did show up i slept. as crazy as it sounds i think i was the only college student ever to still fall asleep in class like i'm in high school. i didn't talk in class though because that's just rude (as if sleeping is any better). point is, i definitely learned after a few d's and f's that you just have to read the material and pay atttention. i am doing much better and have no sympathy for those who complain. been there done that got nowhere. now i read all of the chapters and take notes, take notes in class, and try to understand the material. i just shrug and ignore those people who claim they didn't have time to read. didn't you just say you were laid off and all of your kids are grown? what the heck? i'm taking 12 credits and work 40 hours. give me a break.
good post! i am glad you learned. i never talk in class .. but i do get good grades.. usually negative a and some a's and few b+. i will earn all a's for this semester too.. pretty easy. but i will have to study even harder when i go to nursing school. i know it is not easy to work 40 hours with a 12 credits course.. i work 20 hours and i am taking a 12 credits courses and it is too much work.. however, i do have plenty of time for myself.. i do take breaks..heck, i might even quit my job when i enter to the bsn program.
I loved micro and thought it was fascinating. Can't say some of the other students agreed. The professor was very educated, a cut above. The tests were so hard, but I learned so much. I felt very competent setting up the microscope and seeing all those cute things swimming around. Didn't gross me out at all.
We don't do dissections, so I can't relate (happily so).
Some people do complain a lot, but half of them don't really mean it. The other half will drop out on the last day they can. I grumble sometimes and say a test was really hard, but I worked like a dog to do well. Too bad the lousy students take up seats, and too bad they are subsidized by grants that could go to students who really do work hard (not read their Facebook account during Biology class). I think it's great that CCs give all students a chance and work with them, just wish they would get rid of the complete slackers and not have them continue taking up the seats and class time.
I just keep getting annoyed at all of the complaining. I wish there were more than 3 people out of 30, that actually enjoy learning and want to help people. I ask people in this class why they want to be a nurse and the number one answer: "The paycheck." I hate that. I know that at the end of the day, everyone that works wants to make a paycheck but DO NOT go into nursing if all you care about is money. The majority of our class is doing horrible on the exams because they think that the professor is going to hand them the answers. I will tell them that I saw some answer in the book, and they act shocked that it was in there....IF YOU READ THE CHAPTER IT WILL HELP YOU. She is not going to put every answer to every question on the study guide. She doesn't even have to make a study guide if she doesn't want to! I just wish that this class could be more fun, with people that have positive attitudes. I have never seen so many negative people in my life, and all they do is place the blame for their poor grades on others!
I guess my attitude boils down to the fact that my mom just got done with chemotherapy for breast cancer. I saw some AWESOME nurses and lots of really sick people at her cancer center (she was one of them for the last few months) and I just cannot stand to hear a person say that a paycheck motivates them to go into nursing. I think being around the cancer patients made me despise complaining about trivial things. This is why this thread, is going to be one of my only complaints about school. Im not sick, I have a great family and a great opportunity to go to college. What could be better than that?!?
I just keep getting annoyed at all of the complaining. I wish there were more than 3 people out of 30, that actually enjoy learning and want to help people. I ask people in this class why they want to be a nurse and the number one answer: "The paycheck." I hate that. I know that at the end of the day, everyone that works wants to make a paycheck but DO NOT go into nursing if all you care about is money. The majority of our class is doing horrible on the exams because they think that the professor is going to hand them the answers. I will tell them that I saw some answer in the book, and they act shocked that it was in there....IF YOU READ THE CHAPTER IT WILL HELP YOU. She is not going to put every answer to every question on the study guide. She doesn't even have to make a study guide if she doesn't want to! I just wish that this class could be more fun, with people that have positive attitudes. I have never seen so many negative people in my life, and all they do is place the blame for their poor grades on others!
I guess my attitude boils down to the fact that my mom just got done with chemotherapy for breast cancer. I saw some AWESOME nurses and lots of really sick people at her cancer center (she was one of them for the last few months) and I just cannot stand to hear a person say that a paycheck motivates them to go into nursing. I think being around the cancer patients made me despise complaining about trivial things. This is why this thread, is going to be one of my only complaints about school. Im not sick, I have a great family and a great opportunity to go to college. What could be better than that?!?
Just remember, you are still in prereqs. Many of the people in prereqs with that additude will not even pass prereqs.....most will not make it into the nursing program.....and many that make it into the nursing program are in for a huge wakeup call when they do and find out nursing is not what they thought, and will likely quit.....others that are willing to stick it out, may not make it through the program, or if they do, unless they grow up and change their attitudes, will not survive long as a nurse. But nursing school stresses and tests based on critical thinking......most people with that mindset do not think critically......seriously, asking for a wordbank is not critical thinking. Nursing school tests based on NCLEX....it is all multiple choice.....but it is all questions about applying the information given to you
Just remember, you are still in prereqs. Many of the people in prereqs with that additude will not even pass prereqs.....most will not make it into the nursing program.....and many that make it into the nursing program are in for a huge wakeup call when they do and find out nursing is not what they thought, and will likely quit.....others that are willing to stick it out, may not make it through the program, or if they do, unless they grow up and change their attitudes, will not survive long as a nurse. But nursing school stresses and tests based on critical thinking......most people with that mindset do not think critically......seriously, asking for a wordbank is not critical thinking. Nursing school tests based on NCLEX....it is all multiple choice.....but it is all questions about applying the information given to you
yes. It just ticks me off that some of these people will take up spots that should have been given to other people
My advice? Get over it. People are going to say stuff just to tick you off, because they do not know any better, because they think they know what they are talking about, because....whatever! None other person than another nurse is ever going to fully understand what you experience as a nurse. You can go blue in the face correcting people, and unless it is a situation that truly warrants correcting just ignore it or you will make yourself crazy.
I guess my attitude boils down to the fact that my mom just got done with chemotherapy for breast cancer. I saw some AWESOME nurses and lots of really sick people at her cancer center (she was one of them for the last few months) and I just cannot stand to hear a person say that a paycheck motivates them to go into nursing. I think being around the cancer patients made me despise complaining about trivial things. This is why this thread, is going to be one of my only complaints about school. Im not sick, I have a great family and a great opportunity to go to college. What could be better than that?!?
I know exactly how you feel in this respect. When my parents suffered from cancer (one after the other) they had such wonderful nurses. It really planted in me such a respect for the profession. Also- after my mom died, I found myself very intolerant of people who would moan and groan about trivial things. So much so- I quit my job (waitress) in the middle of a shift after telling off a customer who was complaining about something stupid. I was at the end of my rope. I was so tired of people freaking out because their tea was only half full or they were running late and needed everything right that second or whatever other stupid things people find to complain about during the hour they are sitting for lunch. (It wasn't the most mature or reasonable way to react- but I was young and mourning the death of my mother).
Yeah- sometimes it takes a real slap in the face for people to snap out of their own me me me me me me to see the big picture in life.
I know exactly how you feel in this respect. When my parents suffered from cancer (one after the other) they had such wonderful nurses. It really planted in me such a respect for the profession. Also- after my mom died, I found myself very intolerant of people who would moan and groan about trivial things. So much so- I quit my job (waitress) in the middle of a shift after telling off a customer who was complaining about something stupid. I was at the end of my rope. I was so tired of people freaking out because their tea was only half full or they were running late and needed everything right that second or whatever other stupid things people find to complain about during the hour they are sitting for lunch. (It wasn't the most mature or reasonable way to react- but I was young and mourning the death of my mother).
Yeah- sometimes it takes a real slap in the face for people to snap out of their own me me me me me me to see the big picture in life.
My mom was diagnosed in October, during my second year of prereqs. I just get annoyed with all of the complaining after seeing people who truly deserve to complain.. Maybe, I have a bad attitude towards certain students or a bad attitude towards their bad attitude. Either way, I should ignore them. I'm glad that there is someone who understands, and gets annoyed like I do with unwarranted complaining. (Sorry for the circumstances, but a lot of people around me do not understand this.) I think watching my mom go through what she has gone through, has also furthered my drive towards nursing. I owe it all to the incredible chemo nurses that could bring a smile to my mom's face when she was sick. I thought I was the only one that gets mad about people complaining about a bad hair day, when right before I was asked to shave my mom's head. And Cancer is a the smack in the face that made me see deeper into life way faster than I would have ever imagined.
Thank you for sharing your story, I totally understand where you are coming from :redpinkhe
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I have never seen a school present it like nursing would be easy other then the trade school/for profits that ALWAYS have ads running with some girl in scrubs talking about her "great carrer" making "great money" in the "medical field" and how easy and fast it was.....and most cases that is just a clerical/tech/ma training course NOT nursing, but they make it look like it could be nursing since people associate nursing with good money. But i have never seen a BSN, community college or diploma school make it look like nursing was easy, or even advertise thier nursing programs much, if at all....they don't really need to, especially right now. Maybe some do, I just havent seen it.
I know my program (hospital diploma program) had a meet and greet day 3 months ago....before anything other then the admission fee was due (we start this monday). They highly recomended that anyone with no exerience in the medical field attend. Pretty much they took us to the hospital and had us shadow current students for a couple hours. They had other students speek to us. They definiely have never painted a pretty "this will be easy" picture for us. They were blunt about it. And they told us the reason they did the meet and greet day was because they had many students with no health care experience that early on just found out that this was not what they thought it would be like, and quit. They started meet and greet she said they often would lose a couple students from a class after the meet and greet, for that reason.....so before they had to get uniforms, books, supplys, pay tuition and so on.
I just think that some people in community colleges may have a tendency to think that anything offered as an associates degree is easy. And its 2 years so fast (even though in reality it is usually 3, if not 4 years for most). Have been in classes with plenty of people that were planning on going into nursing that can tell that unless they grow up, or change their attitudes about things, you do have to wonder how far they would actually make it in the program.
I really think MEDIA would have more of an impact of how some people may view nursing in general, more so then schools portrayals. Media makes it look like nursing is just a easy side job and Drs do most of the work with the patients......that nurses just follow drs orders on what to do.....how easy is that, someone tells you what to do, and you do it.
Give what meds the Drs ordered(not like you have to know what they are or what they do)...take vitals.....some charting....and then just sit around in case a patient pulls the call light...have fun and joke with coworkers in the mean time.....maybe flirt with the cute Dr.(because he has a ton of time on his hands too to stand around and joke and flirt)