Should I resign or am I overreacting?

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Do you think it is feasible to stay on a job who’s threatening you with the BON and suspending you without providing reason? An incident happened (previous post), but when I asked for the grounds or reason wanting to report to BON I did not receive an answer. This was the response to my “4 page letter asking these questions:” I will not doing anything without giving you a heads up. HR Director and I are meeting at …. I didn’t even get an answer as to how long I am suspended. I wanted the answers for a peace of mind and to prepare if necessary, but they’re not providing anything. What should I do? Should I have contacted HR first? I never had to deal with a situation like this, and almost have zero guidance. Keep in mind…what I think they would try to present to the board will not stand, because I didn’t put anyones safety at harm. Should I resign or am I overreacting?  Thanks in advance for your responses. 

MunoRN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care. Has 10 years experience. 7,909 Posts

From your explanation of the situation previously, I would agree that nothing reportable to the BON occurred, but I'd also be surprised if you have a job to resign from at this point.

8 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

From your explanation of the situation previously, I would agree that nothing reportable to the BON occurred, but I'd also be surprised if you have a job to resign from at this point.

Thank you for your honest opinion! That may very well be the case. The crazy thing is I never had a write up or disciplinary issue. I see this issue as a matter of 2 employees having a disagreement and one going home (myself) to diffuse the situation. Thank you for your response.  

MunoRN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care. Has 10 years experience. 7,909 Posts

19 minutes ago, BaybeeNurse20 said:

Thank you for your honest opinion! That may very well be the case. The crazy thing is I never had a write up or disciplinary issue. I see this issue as a matter of 2 employees having a disagreement and one going home (myself) to diffuse the situation. Thank you for your response.  

I don't disagree that it's best to do what you feel you really need to do in these situations, but your description of this as "a matter of 2 employees having a disagreement and one going home to diffuse the situation", is not how an employer will see it.  You were given a work assignment by a supervisor and refused to do it, that's pretty straightforward insubordination.  

5 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

I don't disagree that it's best to do what you feel you really need to do in these situations, but your description of this as "a matter of 2 employees having a disagreement and one going home to diffuse the situation", is not how an employer will see it.  You were given a work assignment by a supervisor and refused to do it, that's pretty straightforward insubordination.  

I may not have communicated the situation properly. I did not refuse the assignment. The situation was resolved and I had my assignment and was in the process of planning my day/night. Charge nurse came and said she needed to talk to me. It was then the options were given. I chose to go home, to remove myself from the situation. I felt that was the best thing to do at that time. Supervisor said that I can go home if I want to, but he didn’t make me go home. He sent the relief and I left. I guess I do understand your point.  I will look up policy on that. This is my first job. My next question is: do you think I should let them fire me or resign before they try to fire me as this is my first nursing job and will probably need reference in the future.

MunoRN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care. Has 10 years experience. 7,909 Posts

From your other post;

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Before I took report on any patient I told them that if I have to take more than 5 with a COVID patient, I’ll go home.

 

40 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

From your other post;

 

Ahhh I see. Thank You so much. 

kbrn2002, ADN, RN

Specializes in Geriatrics, Dialysis. Has 20 years experience. 3,560 Posts

Regardless of how their threats to report you to the BON progress, which by the way should go nowhere as you did nothing reportable you are done at that job.  Even if you end up not being terminated why on earth would you ever consider going back there?   

From an HR point of view for a prospective employer it does look better to have a resignation on your resume rather than a termination though being fired certainly doesn't mean you won't get another job easily. 

Here's an idea.  You are currently suspended for an unspecified amount of time so get those job applications and your resume out there now. You are officially still employed so if you get another position soon which is very likely in most job markets you won't even have a gap in employment to explain. 

Even if you are terminated before you find another job most companies have a policy of only releasing your date of hire and last day of work to confirm employment and can tell prospective employers if you eligible for rehire. They wouldn't tell a future employer during a reference check that you were suspended nor would they discuss any other kind of disciplinary action.

hppygr8ful, ASN, RN, EMT-I

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life). Has 20 years experience. 3 Articles; 4,405 Posts

I agree that the writing is on the wall. Count your losses and move on. There does not seem to be anything in your situation that is reportable to the BON but this tactic is often used with newer nurses to keep them in line. This is because it has been beaten into new grads how their license is always in danger and until you gain an understanding of the things nurses actually lose their licenses for you live in fear. 

If you are determined to fight this you will have to hire an attorney who can demand a formal meeting and gain access to any records/documentation that might be used against you. I say hire an attorney because going to HR on your own will serve you nothing. HR does not exist to protect employees but rather to protect the interests of the company. 

Use your experience to look for a new job. and walk away with your dignity in tact.

Hppy

OK Thank you all so much for the responses and advice. I’ve spoke with HR. For some reason the director said she needed to talk to them And then they’ll schedule a meeting. I’m new to this and never had to go through this but I thought that was weird. So, I still contacted them today! I’ve done my research on HR and I am aware of their primary responsibility/ interests now. However, after talking to HR, they requested I email them a statement. Do you all think it is wise to email a statement without having an attorney review the statement? I feel that something fishy is going on here. I do not care about the job. The only thing I care about my license. HR claim that she knows nothing of the case b/c she’s been busy due to this weeks festivities or celebration. So, I still was not told the reason for suspension or reason for them contacting the board. 

CardiTeleRN

CardiTeleRN, BSN

Specializes in Cardiac, Telemetry. Has 4 years experience. 69 Posts

1 hour ago, BaybeeNurse20 said:

OK Thank you all so much for the responses and advice. I’ve spoke with HR. For some reason the director said she needed to talk to them And then they’ll schedule a meeting. I’m new to this and never had to go through this but I thought that was weird. So, I still contacted them today! I’ve done my research on HR and I am aware of their primary responsibility/ interests now. However, after talking to HR, they requested I email them a statement. Do you all think it is wise to email a statement without having an attorney review the statement? I feel that something fishy is going on here. I do not care about the job. The only thing I care about my license. HR claim that she knows nothing of the case b/c she’s been busy due to this weeks festivities or celebration. So, I still was not told the reason for suspension or reason for them contacting the board. 

I just had a similar situation but as a travel nurse but they were flat out trying to assign me to work a unit where additional certifications(chemotherapy) were required and I refused. They tried to convince me to leave without waiting for coverage to attempt at the patient abandonment but my first passion of nursing was always legal nursing so I was 20 steps ahead. As to your situation, you waited for relief and gave report. You literally handed off care to the next nurse. As soon as the next nurse accepts report, you are no longer responsible for those patients. So that supervisor was just doing what 90% of most inpatient nursing managers do which is be a manipulative condescending piece of garbage trying to place fear into you. I'd just be willing to leave if I were you, if you stay there, they're gonna make your life Haydees.

 

Honestly, it sounds like they're preparing to terminate you. HR rarely has the best interest of employees at heart. Heavy emphasis on RARELY!! So really at this point, its be terminated or resign. Somewhat bright side is, if you're terminated, you can apply for unemployment until you find another job. 😃

@CardiTeleRN Thank yo so much for your response. I definitely did not consider staying either way. I spoke with another nurse she recommended resigning before fire just for reference. I have already began speaking with travel nurses who’s ready to offer positions tomorrow. Maybe I need to learn more about the legal aspects of nursing before I do anything else. I am going to consult with a lawyer tomorrow. So sorry you had to go through that. People are down right dirty, and it’s a shame especially when you’ve bent over backwards for the companies (which I have).