I can only imagine how this is probably going to turn out, but I really have to say something. I ahve been reading on this site for a long time, and although I know I do not have near as many posts placed here, I have noticed an alarming trend on many threads. There aren't too many threads anymore where the subject matter is getting traded in for some petty little arguement between others and people just start "fighting" with each other. Although I know we are just typing here, you can just "feel" the attitudes.
What is up with this? I am not naive, but I really thought we were professionals and this was a place for a "commoradirary" of sorts.
Am I missing something here? I am not trying to start anything here either, it is just with the numerous instances I have seen this, I was wondering how many others feel this way too?
I was also under the impression that this was like "unacceptable" behavior as far as postings went and people weren't allowed to post rude threads.
Let me know what you think, I so invite comments, but please keep it nice.
Don't let him to get to you. There's 157,000+ other members here you could get along with just fine. You don't have to be everyone's friend. Learn to blow off ignorance and rude people and you'll find that forums are much more enjoyable. I could think of hundreds of better things to do than argue with someone online.
Thank you dano, that really does make me feel better!!
Sorry folks, but I'm afraid I have to agree with Christy, the OP. While my experiences with posts have been pretty positive and supportive from AllNurses.com, I have noticed that lately people seem to be making VERY rude (and frankly, unnecessary) comments. Constructive criticism is one thing, but making nasty, mean comments just for the sake of commenting is counterproductive. I can go to work and get that! It would be nice to have a website where we as Nurses and health providers have a "safe place" to discuss topics openly, vent feelings ask questions and be supportive of each other whether someone is a student, CNA, RN or APN. It's bad enough going to work (or school) and dealing with cranky, rude, mean patients and other staff. I have looked forward to visiting this website in order to decompress after a stressful day at work. I hope we can all play nice.
These were my thoughts exactly!!!! I wish I would have had those words for my original post!! Thank you.
I find these varying perceptions interesting. I'm of the opinion that this forum is a safe-haven on the internet. I think it's quite civil and productive. Compared to most forums on the internet, this place is heaven. I've been to aol and yahoo message boards and I felt like taking a shower when I left.
I do tend to be blunt sometimes and have to remind myself that words on a screen do not always telegraph my intent or attitude accurately.
Specializes in cardiac/critical care/ informatics.
This is a pretty touchy topic for me also so I will keep it spiffy and not contribute to the rudeness around here.
I feel if people can not constructively contribute to a post then they shouldn't post anything and quit being "internet bullies". If someone has a beef with someone's post, PM them and keep the site clean from the bravado.
I often have wondered if people ever read there responces before they post them because sometimes you can just tell that they didn't mean it the way another poster may have taken it...but then again we get a lot of peeps just trying to liven things up and tic people off.
Plus there is a totally diff attitude depending on which forum you are in...try out the psych nursing and the ARNP/CRNA forums...lol...no offense but them peeps take themselves VERY seriously :)
Perhaps the rising level of hostility can be traced to the rising level of stress in nursing. None of our jobs are getting any easier, none of our pt loads are getting lessened. Several new stressors in my dept and an increased pt load. Thank goodness for a place to vent and commiserate and have important questions answered by more experienced nurses.
Sometimes it's a matter of perspective. I participated in a thread where I didn't agree with a good deal of the posters, and continued a back and forth discussion that I thought was positive and productive. Others thought it "fighting and catty".
Also, I try to keep things in perspective. There are literally thousands of threads and posts on here and the overwhelming majority of them are neutral, people just saying things, or supportive.
Yes there are posts that are negative and unprofessional, and sometimes it seems like the board is tilting that way, but why judge all of Allnurses based on those few? Serously, count the threads where there is true, I mean honest to goodness nastiness, and count the ones that are neutral and/or positive and see what you get. Here's a quote from someone today "This entire forum is soo wonderful. I never realized the support network and the amount of helpful websites dedicated to healthcare students. It is quite amazing." So I guess it's a matter of perspective.
As soon as I think things like "I thought this board was supposed to be...........", "Aren't nurses supposed to be professionals................" then I get disapppointed.
Now, my post is positive in my opinion. It doesn't "follow the leader", but is a response that invites further discussion. What's interesting is that someone is going to read this and think "agrumentative". I've often thought that threads and posts were o.k. when others thought they were fighting and rude. Guess I'm not a senstive sort. :)
Gonzo just made an observation that is well worth comtemplating. The rising level of hostility in relation to the rising level of stress. I cna see where the would hold true. however, I can see the OP's point.
I beleive that debate is good and that everyone shouldn't hold the same opinions. My problem is with the tone that some of the posts take. And I am not even talking about the ones where the sarcasm can be misconstrued.
I am talking about the overuse of words such as "hate" and "despise". Then there are the "patient refused" posts.
Maybe I was raised a bit backwards, but I was brought up to not use such harsh words. To me growing up, to "hate" something was the worst thing in the entire world. There was nothing worse than that. To this day, I have a lot of things I intensely dislike, but nothing I hate.
As for the patient's refusing things. They may have a very good reason for not wanting to take that med, maybe it makes them sick to their stomach. They may not want to bathe at this time because they are used to bathing in the evening. They may not feel comfortable doing the PT in their "nightgown". I have never charted in a patient's records that they refused something, it's always they declined. And most of the time, I find out why and try to remedy the situation.
All I am saying is why can't we disagree and debate these things without be so disrepectful to each other and to our patients?
You would be an example of what I am talking about!
I am a professional! I have been for many years, and I don't appreciate your comments. If you don't like a particular thread then move on, don't "stain it" by trying to start something, b/c that is all you are doing!
I understand, it does seem there's always one in every thread doesn't it? Actually, I haven't even noticed that this sort of trend is increasing lately, but it must be if people are saying so. I don't really pay attention to posts that bother me. I read them and move on.
There is an ignore button. Also realize you can violate the TOS by attacking the rude person, so it's best to put them on your ignore list and not comment, because that's when it deteriorates. Feeding the trolls doesn't help matters. If you think someone has violated the TOS then report them to a mod. But being rude and catty doesn't always violate the TOS.
I don't understand rudenss and cattyness and why some people feel it necessary to post, and I don't understand if it's increasing. But in the end it doesn't really bother me becuase I understand there are just those kinds of people in the world. It's just something I accept, but most of the time ignore and don't even give them a second of space in my head.
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christymwinn
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Thank you dano, that really does make me feel better!!