I HATE THE NCLEX-RN EXAM and its godly creators! And I think whoever implemented it is/are just sick(s) ! So that equals to "sick wanna-be gods"
It doesn't make ANY (just for the pervert sake of using the so-much-hated nclex-style bold key words that to me are not key at all!) sense that I have studied for the BSN, did great while at it and now a so-called "authority" is preventing me from working! That's sick and stupid! And then we hear things such as "oh but they are not testing your knowledge. They want to measure your critical thinking abilities". Oh please shut up! I had enough of all this crap! The world is collapsing, spilling water (ie. blood) from every possible "corner", people are dying because of the economy (suicide, murder, famine) and we are here sitting in front of a Bill Gate's or Steve Job's precious goblet to sing about what's critical????? Get up people!
If I did not pass the NCLEX-RN the second time it just means it's full of ****! And the threads about it just prove it! Thousands of people panicking and going ballistic after the exam having no-clue, no idea in the world whatsoever (!!!) if they passed or failed or just lived a dream with the connotations of a nightmare (here again having no clue as to what its substantial nature looks like!).
Then you have the morons singing and clapping their hands "I passed, I made it, I am an RN!!!". Well, excuse the **** out of me, mr and mrs RN. You think you weren't an RN already before taking the test? You needed a test to tell you that you are an RN? Oh sorry, you were just a N without a R. A simple Nurse in other words! Sorry we cannot be Nurses! So just don't let the public call us Nurses! It's an offense to all those who implemented the test! Where's their role in all this? They MUST get a percentage! And what a high one, by the way! I spent hundreds of dollars on this and I hope that whomever got my money will use it on medicines! Not kidding!
And no, I don't need nursing interventions to manage anger and lividness! I am as calm as the sick ones that implemented the test and said, "oh by the way, let's raise the passing standard again!"
Standardizing our practice ensures patient safety, nurse competency and has allowed our craft to become a respected profession, friend. If you're cool with letting a random person who strolls on in and pinky swears they're a great nurse go to work on your loved one, by all means have at it.
And the NCLEX-RN standardizing what? Sorry, I don't get it!
Also, since you're so knowledgeable could you please explain to us all here standing the mystery about nclex-rn takers not having a clue whatsoever as to whether they passed the test or not? Now, that's a big mystery! Is that part of the standardization process that you adorably mentioned?
If you're cool with letting a random person who strolls on in and pinky swears they're a great nurse go to work on your loved one by all means have at it. But I'm not.[/quote']
Who said anything about that? Lol
But yes I agree. We had one student in our class who cheated the whole way through with test banks. Couldn't pass the HESI to save his life. Wonder if he passed the NCLEX. I definitely wouldn't want him working on me or my family.
The OP is just venting. Looks like she/he took it failed, and has now taken it a second time. Let them vent. *shrug* I'm pretty sure they knew there was any nclex before starting nursing school. But we don't know the nature of it until we take it. Some find it easier than others. They didn't. They vented. End of story. No need for novels and fingerprinting. (Not saying you just in general )
But yes I agree. We had one student in our class who cheated the whole way through with test banks. Couldn't pass the HESI to save his life. Wonder if he passed the NCLEX. I definitely wouldn't want him working on me or my family.
The OP is just venting. Looks like she/he took it failed, and has now taken it a second time. Let them vent. *shrug* I'm pretty sure they knew there was any nclex before starting nursing school. But we don't know the nature of it until we take it. Some find it easier than others. They didn't. They vented. End of story. No need for novels and fingerprinting. (Not saying you just in general )
Sorry, buddy, you sound very nice to me, but with the due respect, I don't think I am
JUST venting. I think I am ALSO making some points here, about the NCLEX-RN examination.
A part from this, thanks for joining the thread. Very much appreciated!
And the NCLEX-RN standardizing what? Sorry, I don't get it!
I didn't realize I was being cryptic when I stated "patient safety" and "nurse competency". But thanks for thinking I'm adorable :). Gonna say a serenity prayer for you and your frustrations, friend.
I didn't realize I was being cryptic when I stated "patient safety" and "nurse competency". But thanks for thinking I'm adorable :). Gonna say a serenity prayer for you and your frustrations, friend.
Okay, no problem. I'll rephrase it, I think I have been the cryptic one.
Well if it's safe to act like the NCLEX-RN tells you to act, and if it's competent to act the way the NCLEX wants you to act, how come test takers have no clue as to whether they passed or failed, after taking it? Logics tells me that if you act safely and competently you know that you're acting safely and competently, unless you're under hypnosis, or just "guessing the right thing (answer)".
Okay, no problem. I'll rephrase it, I think I have been the cryptic one.
Well if it's safe to act like the NCLEX-RN tells you to act, and if it's competent to act the way the NCLEX wants you to act, how come test takers have no clue as to whether they passed or failed, after taking it? Logics tells me that if you act safely and competently you know that you're acting safely and competently, unless you're under hypnosis, or just "guessing the right thing (answer)".
Your assumptions are wrong.
You are assuming that people "know" whether or not they meet the standards required by the test. In fact, there is no law of nature that makes that assumption valid. In reality, some people may believe they know the right answer to a question but be totally wrong -- just like people were quite confident that the world was flat for centuries, when it wasn't true.
And NCLEX doesn't tell you how to act ... it poses questions/scenarios and asks you to choose the response that best reflects the content and skills that you should have mastered in school.
I am sorry that you have apparently failed to demostrate that level of mastery on your recent attempt to pass the exam. This should be interpreted as a sign that you didn't know the material as well as you thought you did -- or that you were not able to apply it to the test questions as well as you thought you would.
The state has both the right and more importantly, the obligation to require a demonstration of mastery before granting someone a license to practice nursing and take responsibility for the well-being of others. That is why students must be endorsed by their schools to take the exam (endorsed by faculty members who have seen them actually practice and "perform" in classes) -- and take a "written" examination before they become RN's.
The NCLEX is written, continually evaluated, and up-dated in accordance with the established educational standards of our day. While it is not perfect, it is the best that the profession can do within the current state of the art of test design. Instead of disparaging the character of those who work to safeguard the public against ignorance and incompetance ... you should be trying to learn from the experience so that you can improve your performance on your next attempt.
Though I thought your original post was mildly amusing ... it's time to pick yourself up and move forward.
Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
And the NCLEX-RN standardizing what? Sorry, I don't get it!
Also, since you're so knowledgeable could you please explain to us all here standing the mystery about nclex-rn takers not having a clue whatsoever as to whether they passed the test or not? Now, that's a big mystery! Is that part of the standardization process that you adorably mentioned?
Clearly you are NOT happy. I hope it helped to "get it out"
Unfortunately there needs to be a "standard" set to assure that you are "safe" to practice. Is it arbitrary? Maybe. You need a license to drive , to carry a gun. A doctor needs a license so does a hairdresser...so do pilots and pharmacists......you need a license for just about everything except being a parent...go figure.
Years ago we had to take 2 and 1/2 days of testing a total of something like 22 hours of testing . You had to gt a minimum passing score on each section...we waited 4 months to see if was passed. The test was only given 2 times a year. You were allowed to only fail once and you had to go to remediation at your school. You say in a large convention room with 4,000 other people seated every other seat. They hired people on unemployment to be "proctors" who could remove your exam at any moment for cheating. They checked every picture ID on the way in and out. The doors were removed/left open on the bathrooms so you could be watched if you had to go.
It was the worst experience of my life to that point.
I am not sure I like the adaptive testing. I think it tests how to take a test and maybe not so much of content...but it is what is used.
I'm sorry you are frustrated. It's OK to be angry. Now...get back on your feet and pass the test ((HUGS))
All I can add is that there were some weird questions on it. I got so many "what would the doctor do..." type questions. I kept thinking, "But, I am trying to be a nurse! Am I taking the right test?!" LOL! However, no matter what, you want something from the state - a license to practice - so you have to abide by their rules and tests. No matter how stupid they seem. You ARE a nurse. You just don't have permission to practice in that state. That's the rub.
Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
I agree completely with Ilg's post but I have to admit 1) the general level of wacky-ness made me laugh out loud right here in the public library) 2) I hope this thread made you feel better WeAreOfPeace!
How about, novel idea here, doing a self-inventory on why you failed the NCLEX twice. The NCLEX is not a well-kept secret. You know its at the end of your nursing school. If you truly think that the whole nursing profession should throw standardization (that has been enacted to ensure evidenced-based, logically sound nursing care to the people of this country) out on its ear so that you can be a nurse, well, that says a lot more about you than the test.
Break out the Linda Loma. Maybe look in the mirror and remind yourself that you are NOT the be-all end-all of student nursing. Grasp the idea of humility and respect, then try again.
But for the love of Pete, don't try again until you truly understand why the NCLEX exists, and why you can't just wander around calling yourself a nurse after you've failed it twice. Critical thinking is not some hippy-dippy term for psychological BS that exists to make you fail. It is a REQUIRED SKILL that sadly, not all people are able to adapt and employ. When you stare down a list of bad lab values and you need to figure out which are the one that will give you the most hell the earliest, the ones that will aggravate X condition, the ones that are going to kill your pt, that's critical thinking. Sorry you don't think that's an important skill. Me, I'm thankful the states think it is such an important part of nursing that they won't give you a license until you prove you can do it.
You're right except for one little thing: the so-praised NCLEX-RN examination is not ONLY about content! So, move on and get over the "licensing" crap![/quote']
What does this even mean?
This is very simple to understand: in order to be an RN you much pass the NCLEX and then be approved by your state's Board of Nursing. There is no "crap" there, it's the truth.
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And the NCLEX-RN standardizing what? Sorry, I don't get it!
Also, since you're so knowledgeable could you please explain to us all here standing the mystery about nclex-rn takers not having a clue whatsoever as to whether they passed the test or not? Now, that's a big mystery! Is that part of the standardization process that you adorably mentioned?