"Should I Report This?" Yet Another Bullying Thread

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there's another thread asking "should i report this?" it seems like there's always one of those threads going. in it, a brand new nurse relates a situation that she, in her infinite wisdom and experience, finds deplorable and ends with asking either “should i report this?” or “whom do i report this to?” the answer, i think, is “mind your own business,” but there are dozens of posts disagreeing with this. “we all have duty to report,” they proclaim self righteously. “we have to protect our patients.”

these are some of the same posters who perpetuate thread after thread on lateral violence, bullying, backstabbing and throwing one another under the bus. they know it happens because they’ve been bullied. bullying just ought not to be tolerated, it should be nipped in the bud. bullies should lose their jobs.

so bullying is a terrible thing . . . unless i’m doing it? backstabbing ought not to be tolerated . . . except, of course, if i’m backstabbing someone. we ought not to throw one another under the bus . . . but i’ll make an exception in the case that *i* want to “report someone.” women are all nasty, catty backstabbers . . . except for me, of course, and maybe my friends.

if bullying is such a concern, maybe we ought to just stop doing it. rather than wasting energy deciding how and where to report someone, perhaps we ought to just mind our own business. (unless a patient is in immediate danger, of course.) rather than throwing someone under the bus to make ourselves look better by comparison, maybe we ought to stand behind them, support them and if ignorance is an issue, educate them. rather than spending so much time and care on ruminating why the manager didn’t return our “hello” or the charge nurse didn’t jump up and say “good morning” when i graced the floor with my presence, maybe i ought to just cut her some slack. it’s possible that she has something other than me to think about, and it’s possible she wasn’t deliberately ignoring or being rude to me, she was just preoccupied. if we don’t like our preceptor, maybe we should just suck it up and deal -- after all, there are always going to be co-workers we don’t like. and if someone gives us feedback, maybe we ought to pay more attention to the message than the manner. after all, some people just can’t be tactful to save their souls, but it doesn’t make their feedback any less valuable. especially if you’re new and don’t know anything.

new nurses hasten to judge their more experienced colleagues as bullies and backstabbers, yet not all workplace violence is comes from seasoned professionals and is directed at newbies. a lot of it seems to come from those very same new nurses who protest public outrage about all the lateral violence they’re encountering. think about that the next time you go to your manager and request a new preceptor because you don’t like the one you have (or because you’re convinced she doesn’t like you. you know this, of course, because you can see it in her eyes, not because you’ve ever actually discussed it with her.) think about it the next time you rush to judgement about some experienced nurse who does something contrary to the way you learned it in school. maybe it's actually a better way to do it than what your instructor taught you. think about it the next time you self-righteously proclaim “that’s the kind of nurse i *don’t* want to be.” really? give it a few years and then get back to us. and surely you should think about it before even contemplating the question of whether or not you ought to report someone for anything that isn’t actually putting a patient into immediate danger. there's a lot to be said for minding one's own business. if one does that, one can be sure not to throw someone under the bus.

Specializes in ICU, Telemetry.

What is bullying:

Bullying is inappropriate behavior which leads to the perception of suffering in the bully-ee.

I'm not talking about getting after someone for not doing their job, I'm talking about people who are deliberately trying to sabotage someone because they can or they want to by breaking their spirit via slander, libel, etc., to give the bully a sense of power. That's the key, right there. The bully is seeking power and control.

As a manager, you bet I fired bullies, but I'm talking about people who were not doing their job because they were trying to run everyone else's business, causing endless turmoil in my group or project, people who were costing more money than they were generating. As a result, I routinely had the highest productivity of comparable units.

If you had a fox routinely killing chickens in your chicken coop, would your response be to tell the remaining chickens to toughen up or to get rid of the fox?

Specializes in Trauma, Teaching.

Bullseye! as usual RubyVee :yeah:

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:yeah:Buurrrrppp...... just chewed me a young one :D:lol2: (did it taste like chicken?)

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:yeah:Buurrrrppp...... just chewed me a young one :D

:lol2: (did it taste like chicken?)

Yeah, but the skin was a bit thin :D

(just kidding to all of those new grads who are busting their butts, and working like crazy in less than ideal situations... just that us old gomers gotta get a giggle now and then- even at if at our own selves !!)

Yeah, I've always wondered how I would taste if I were getting eaten.

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
why is it taken so personal. most of what people are mentioning is not bullying and is really just having thin skin. why can't you just come in and do your job and go home. just be the professional one and kill 'em with kindness. your charge nurse complains about you needing help, who cares your'e still getting a paycheck, they assign you the worst pt's, so what, your shift will go faster. try to just come into work positive and be grateful in this economy that you have a job. there is always someone worse off than you

They assign you the worst patients than you can't always give them all good care. how is that ok for the patients? why should it be tolerated?

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
:bow: i wanna work with you :)

the generation who got trophies and ribbons for simply entering the contest are now in the workplace. some are actually doing ok. and then there are the rest.... growing up as an adult will be lousy and confusing. they can either shut their mouths and open their ears, or chose to be miserable. i've seen more developmental delays in the last 15 years in "normal" people....the actual dd folks were way ahead of the game sometimes and garnered a whole lot more respect.

i hated writing people up- just more paperwork- and only did so when a direct violation of policy led to risks to patients- if it wasn't worth an official write up, they might get a quick "hey, next time______" . i didn't care about the interpersonal olympics/drama that went on- and if an employee came to me with it (as a supervisor) first thing i'd ask was if they'd talked to that person. if they said no, the conversation was over- unless there was actual risk. i wasn't there to make sure everyone played nice- an adult should already have that down- by second grade....

rndance, i'll save a place behind the couch for ya :D

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i need a place behind that couch too!

Specializes in LTC, Hospice, Case Management.

Actually, I just posted over there and referred that poster to this thread for review.

i need a place behind that couch too!

c'mon over :D

Specializes in ICU, Telemetry.

I like to eat my young with a little ketchup and relish...oh, wait, did I say that out loud?

When I was working, I did not have time to go to the bathroom, let alone bully someone or backstab. Some people have a lot of time on their hands when they should be working.

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