"Allow LPNs to challenge the Board of Nursing to obtain RN licensure" viral post

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Have any of you seen this petition/post going around?

Petition * National Board of Nursing : Allow LPNs to challenge the Board of Nursing to obtain RN licensure * Change.org

If so, what are your thoughts?

Personally, I am an RN. I work in a rural emergency department with one LPN who could run circles around many RN's... I also work with another who does the minimum in her scope, and prefers to work that way. One thing both of them seem to have in common though, is they will approach me about the "why" behind things. Also, there are some things I feel they may not understand about IV push medications, but I could be wrong.

I know the likelihood of this ever happening is slim, but I've seen many LPN's behind this idea. I've not seen any RN's in support though. Please keep this discussion friendly and professional!

The way this petition is written is just silly. I am ALL for petitioning a school to test out of certain classes to obtain your RN. But to think you can skip all classes entirely is simply a joke.

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Tell me one thing a petition on change.org has actually changed.

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Tell me one thing a petition on change.org has actually changed.

Someone's bank balance?

I am one of those ones who could run circles around most RNs. The last hospital setting I worked at, I did a better job than they did without all the complaining that they loved to bask in. Miserable at home or whatever. they created a misery in crowd, and if you stayed positive and away from them, then they decide they hate you and team up against you. They realized this and openly created a hostile work environment for me. I say, yes, make that RN NCLEX challenging and I will take it and pass on the first try. No doubt the RNs who had the money from parents or wealthy spouses to afford to go through 2 years of school instead of 1 year are hostile to this idea and their egos will be assailed at the notion. Others will make up stories about how they donated blood to pay their way through RN school, or starved or lived off of cheese sandwiches for 2 years or ate lint off the carpet to get through RN school, but even when true, they are the exception, not the rule. Never think for a second that 1 extra year of being a psychotic bookworms translates into you being more intelligent than a good LPN. For that matter, I have a total of 10 years of college under my belt, my first Masters degree in secondary education didn't pan out, I got an associates degree in a different field that I found repetitive and boring, so by the time I waited to get into the LPN program, I was burned out with school, writing dazzling research papers, etc and had no desire as i grew older to work FT and go to school. So never let that RN title get to your head. Some of us could challenge that exam and meet or excel most of the RNs who like to carve out their ego driven territory and vehemently protest and harass anyone who can cross it.

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So never let that RN title get to your head. Some of us could challenge that exam and meet or excel most of the RNs who like to carve out their ego driven territory and vehemently protest and harass anyone who can cross it.

This dis-ease knows no bounds. I have seen LPNs turned RNs look down on LPNs more than original RNs have. My motto- know who you are and be happy. Know what you want and get it. Claim what you have and respect what others have. Its process, not intelligence. There are many CNAs with enough brains to be physicians, but they are not, because there is a process to stuff, and a million reasons for not attaining it. I am sure I can make a good US president, but I will never be. Process is order. Order is standard. Should an intelligent CNA with 2 other degrees in history and Geography challenge the NCLEX-LPN? Full disclosure- I am an original RN who has been an instructor in LPN-level school and always advocated for LPNs and dislike the unnecessary rivalry..We are a team!

I am one of those ones who could run circles around most RNs. The last hospital setting I worked at, I did a better job than they did without all the complaining that they loved to bask in. Miserable at home or whatever. they created a misery in crowd, and if you stayed positive and away from them, then they decide they hate you and team up against you. They realized this and openly created a hostile work environment for me. I say, yes, make that RN NCLEX challenging and I will take it and pass on the first try. No doubt the RNs who had the money from parents or wealthy spouses to afford to go through 2 years of school instead of 1 year are hostile to this idea and their egos will be assailed at the notion. Others will make up stories about how they donated blood to pay their way through RN school, or starved or lived off of cheese sandwiches for 2 years or ate lint off the carpet to get through RN school, but even when true, they are the exception, not the rule. Never think for a second that 1 extra year of being a psychotic bookworms translates into you being more intelligent than a good LPN. For that matter, I have a total of 10 years of college under my belt, my first Masters degree in secondary education didn't pan out, I got an associates degree in a different field that I found repetitive and boring, so by the time I waited to get into the LPN program, I was burned out with school, writing dazzling research papers, etc and had no desire as i grew older to work FT and go to school. So never let that RN title get to your head. Some of us could challenge that exam and meet or excel most of the RNs who like to carve out their ego driven territory and vehemently protest and harass anyone who can cross it.

Wow, serious troll food. I can't believe I'm going to bite. Plenty of RNs worked their butts off to get there. Please don't act like everyone who has an RN degree just had rich mommies and daddies to pay for it. I can tell you I put myself through school with kids in tow. It was HARD work and until you actually go through the RN portion of a program you don't know what you don't know. Not everything can be learned through hands on experience. Somethings do require opening a book or listening to a lecture. I don't honestly care if a nurse can "run circles" around another nurse. It's not all about tasks! It's also about knowing and thinking. I have one nurse I work with that is SLOWER than molasses, but I guarantee you if I had a PE or a impending complication she is the one I'd want to take care of me. She has excellent assessment skills and critical thinking.

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The LPNs I know who want to become RNs know the process and feel comfortable pursuing that level of education. I don't think ANYONE should be allowed to "challenge" an exam without the proper education. Experience as an LPN does not always translate into experience as a RN. Just my two cents!

I'm a pretty smart chick. I'm thinking I should challenge the Medical Board Exam.

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I like to think I am a pretty good nurse. I do the best I can on a 60 bed memory care unit with only one other nurse and 5 CNAS. I actually have 3 years of education if you put it all together (took me about 6) because I have my Associates of Science as well as Practical Nursing degrees.

But I need work on my assessment skills and If you put me in the role of an RN in an acute care setting right now I would crash and burn.

For me, I don't struggle with the "why", but that is the idea behind the different degrees. Generally RNs get more schooling in theory and in critical care, both of which LPNs don't cover much.

I can't see them ever allowing this, but I guess you never can tell whats going to happen anymore, lol.

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No. RN-equivalent Education first. THEN challenge.

I could get behind this.

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I have been an LPN for almost 5 years now. My experience primarily being in home health, addictions and psych. An LPN isn't equivalent/interchangeable in a lot of setting due to restrictions on our scope of practice due to less nursing education. I have met bright RNs and LPNs who can perform tasks well and know the "why's" behind it. I have also met some not so bright LPNs and RNs who I have personally, on more than one occasion, have needed to intervene to safe guard a patient due to lack of knowledge on their part. I say my title restricts me from what I can do, not from what I can know, and I use my knowledge to promote better outcomes along side my RN counterparts :) in some of my settings, I have had RNs come ask me to assess a patient because they weren't comfortable doing so, the same way I've asked an RN assist me in assessment. When you're good, you're good regardless of what title is behind your name.

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We should first allow experienced CNAs to sit for NCLEX-PN; then these CNAs can further challenge to sit for the NCLEX-RN; then RNs should be allowed to bypass NP education to prescribe; finally, NPs should be able to sit for the USMLE and become doctors.

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