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I didn't post this to argue the rightness or wrongness of the issue.
I didn't post it to debate civil rights.
Public schools are now mandated to allow students to use restrooms that reflect their gender identity.
I wanted to know if school nurses are going to be affected by the new policy.
How do they think their students will react. Do they think it will cause problems with kids.
Parents and administrators are a whole different issue.
What do school nurses think is going to happen?
Personally, I'm more worried about the consensual (well, not taking into account age of consent, which, is a different story/thread) sex going on in the student restrooms than this issue.
I teach a sexual identity lesson as part of the MS and HS sex education curriculum - most of the kids are completely interested, supportive, and not phased. (Of course, I do know I work in the northeast, but still.)
I often do wonder that in this entire general restroom discussion, it is only concern about girls and women. Apparently, men and boys can't get assaulted in a restroom...
In my school environment I don't think anything is going to happen. If a man goes into a public restroom with my 12 year old daughter, I think a lot will happen.
People keep saying stuff like that, but, in most cases, neither you nor your daughter would have any idea that a "man" is in the restroom with her.
The emphasis on "pro LGBT" (term used twice) may imply to some that you feel they should be "anti".
I emphasize pro on the stand point if the U.S. government were ANTI, one would question their numbers. As it states, since they are very pro, you can count on them to be as accurate as possible for the numbers --> 1 in 2,400 Americans identify themselves as believing they were born in the wrong body/sex.
The other reason to emphasize the accuracy of the numbers is the sad fact that even educated people are using the straw person argument that goes like this... well you've probably been in the _____ (bathroom, locker room, shower) countless times withe one, didn't know it, and it didn't bother you then argument. For anyone interested in stats, the argument is meaningless when you consider how extremely few people claim to be transgender.
The bigger issue becomes that since there are so extremely few people who are actually transgender (whose best case they can do is "look" the opposite sex rather than be the opposite sex) is do we erase the privacy, security, protection, etc. of the masses to allow a larger (than the transgender group) of bullies and sex offenders an open door because we are so concerned over a super minority?
In my school environment I don't think anything is going to happen. If a man goes into a public restroom with my 12 year old daughter, I think a lot will happen.
If that is the concern, then that man is already in the restroom with my son.
There has been no increase in sexual assault in states that have passed these laws.
Sexual Assault and Domestic Violence Organizations Debunk 'Bathroom Predator Myth' - ABC News
Yeah, other than single use bathrooms, there is no perfect solution. If I played Devil's Advocate, I'd wonder why the (assumed) discomfort of a trans-person using their bio-gender "appropriate" bathroom outweighs the discomfort of the cis-gender people when a trans person comes in "their" bathroom. But again, I think this discomfort will fade with future generations.
I emphasize pro on the stand point if the U.S. government were ANTI, one would question their numbers. As it states, since they are very pro, you can count on them to be as accurate as possible for the numbers --> 1 in 2,400 Americans identify themselves as believing they were born in the wrong body/sex.The other reason to emphasize the accuracy of the numbers is the sad fact that even educated people are using the straw person argument that goes like this... well you've probably been in the _____ (bathroom, locker room, shower) countless times withe one, didn't know it, and it didn't bother you then argument. For anyone interested in stats, the argument is meaningless when you consider how extremely few people claim to be transgender.
The bigger issue becomes that since there are so extremely few people who are actually transgender (whose best case they can do is "look" the opposite sex rather than be the opposite sex) is do we erase the privacy, security, protection, etc. of the masses to allow a larger (than the transgender group) of bullies and sex offenders an open door because we are so concerned over a super minority?
OP asked about this in a school setting. For students. And from what many of us have posted, we are already dealing with it.
How long did it take concerning airbag deaths to go to recall, and then become a national issue? How long did it take for Bendectin to become a concern for birth defects? Since the issue with rest room laws is so new without a real public forum prior to the laws being put into place, any news "debunking" concerns isn't really valid until after a reasonable time frame has passed.
How long did it take concerning airbag deaths to go to recall, and then become a national issue? How long did it take for Bendectin to become a concern for birth defects? Since the issue with rest room laws is so new without a real public forum prior to the laws being put into place, any news "debunking" concerns isn't really valid until after a reasonable time frame has passed.
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I think transgender restrooms in a school reserved for student use is one scenario. As Flare mentioned, if a transgender student actually utilizes this option, I think it can be an invitation for bullying and harassment. Otherwise school is a somewhat controlled environment in regard to exposure to random members of the public. I think school would be the safest environment to utilize transgender restrooms.
Transgender use of public restrooms is a completely different scenario.
In my school environment I don't think anything is going to happen. If a man goes into a public restroom with my 12 year old daughter, I think a lot will happen.