President Biden thread

I thought Biden scheduled a Four Seasons address in Philly to talk about climate change and landscaping ????? or was that Rudi ?????? 

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

And you forgot how many Democrats said that a vaccine couldn't roll out as soon as it was, and that some then said they wouldnt take one that was developed under the Trump administration. 

You could argue the degree that Trump was responsible for the vaccines' success.  But its undeniable he had much more to do with then Biden.

It actually was the World Health Organization in early 2020 that stated the idea that a vaccine in 2020 wouldn't happen.  Perhaps the reason Democrats echoed it was because they have more faith in science than Trump. 

Despite some people saying they wouldn't take it under the Trump administration, Democrats signed up.  The vast majority of the public that wasn't in a nursing home or a front line worker had to wait and most people did get it under Biden, but most people acknowledge it came out during the Trump administration.  Like you said you can't deny that.  

As I've already said, it could have been his crowning moment on the way out were he not involved in not accepting his loss,  

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

And you forgot how many Democrats said that a vaccine couldn't roll out as soon as it was, and that some then said they wouldnt take one that was developed under the Trump administration. 

You could argue the degree that Trump was responsible for the vaccines' success.  But its undeniable he had much more to do with then Biden.

And do you forget that when Biden took office only about 2% of the population was vaccinated after practically an entire year of Trump's denials and poncing about AND there was NO DISTRIBUTION SET UP AT ALL! After 1 WHOLE YEAR! 

3 months of Biden and half the population is inoculated and every state has a supply chain. We even have enough vaccines to give away. Trump couldn't even build a wall and it's been climbed by people with wooden ladders, the little he accomplished. But, you would have us believe that he would be able to instigate the logistics for a pandemic cessation? 

2 minutes ago, Curious1997 said:

And do you forget that when Biden took office only about 2% of the population was vaccinated after practically an entire year of Trump's denials and poncing about AND there was NO DISTRIBUTION SET UP AT ALL! After 1 WHOLE YEAR! 

3 months of Biden and half the population is inoculated and every state has a supply chain. We even have enough vaccines to give away. Trump couldn't even build a wall and it's been climbed by people with wooden ladders, the little he accomplished. But, you would have us believe that he would be able to instigate the logistics for a pandemic cessation? 

That's just timing and availability and really didn't have much to do with Biden in my opinion.  The vaccine became more widely available to people that weren't in nursing homes or front line workers after 2021.  It had to do more with the priorities of the first few vaccines than Biden.  

8 minutes ago, Tweety said:

It actually was the World Health Organization that stated the idea that a vaccine in 2020 wouldn't happen.  Perhaps the reason Democrats echoed it was because they have more faith in science than Trump. 

 

I was definitely one of those liberals because of the fact that he's probably the BIGGEST LIAR in the history of the world! 

I wouldn't have put it pass him to have filled the vials with bleach! 

2 minutes ago, Tweety said:

That's just timing and availability and really didn't have much to do with Biden in my opinion.  The vaccine became more widely available to people that weren't in nursing homes or front line workers after 2021.  It had to do more with the priorities of the first few vaccines than Biden.  

 

Without a distribution network, it wouldn't have mattered what the timing was. You have to get the vaccine to the right people and into the arms of the recipients.

Suez canal.... Huge container ship... Ring a bell? Supply chain and distribution? 

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

You could argue the degree that Trump was responsible for the vaccines' success.  But its undeniable he had much more to do with then Biden.

Trump has no hand in the vaccine roll out the way it is going now.  Trump himself said the responsibility lays at the feet of the pharmaceutical companies and the governors of each state.  The only thing Trump did was tell pharmaceutical companies to make vaccines.  But, um, they were already doing that!  No, Trump's poor leadership was a hands-off approach!  So, now that Trump is out of office and thinks he will have a comeback, he is to ride Biden's success????  No, Trump supporters, the rest of us are not drunk on Trump's lies, so, you don't get to re-write history! 

Trump could have been successful if he had issued a Federal response back in January 2020 when he found out about the disease.  However, in February he stated it was all a hoax!  Trump could have been successful if he had shut down the crazy white nationalist and anti-vaxers of the GOP and pushed for a Federal response.  However, the twice impeached former president is a crap poor leader and could not help himself.  In fact, Trump says nothing to the crazies of the GOP that are still refusing to be vaccinated.  So, no, Trump supporters, Trump is playing no hand in the Biden's success. 

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

And you forgot how many Democrats said that a vaccine couldn't roll out as soon as it was, and that some then said they wouldnt take one that was developed under the Trump administration. 

You could argue the degree that Trump was responsible for the vaccines' success.  But its undeniable he had much more to do with then Biden.

Holy hell. How many times do people need to acknowledge that the vaccines were developed while Trump was president? I mean we all know that while Trump was lying about vaccines to the American people and making weird suggestions for treatment in front of cameras his administration created WARP speed to give financial support to some vaccine developers in response to the immense pressure that they should at least LOOK like they were working against the virus.  In the Trump plan for state leadership in a pandemic there was no plan for vaccination other than sending doses to states and that would have been based upon Trump's petty feelings about state politics. 

But since you keep bringing it up...tell us which prominent democrats publicly said these things and tell us how those words might have convinced Trump loving conservatives to avoid the Trump vaccine. 

Lots of Democrats were worried about the early rollout.   Biden himself...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden-idUSKBN2671NW

After the vaccine announcement New York Governor Cuomo said "“Frankly, I’m not going to trust the federal government’s opinion and I wouldn’t recommend to New Yorkers based on the federal government’s opinion,” 

Experts said it would take a miracle to get it out in 2020

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fact-check-coronavirus-vaccine-could-come-year-trump-says-experts-n1207411

There was a lot of skepticism.  But at the end of the day when it was deemed safe by science, not necessarily Trump (who can blame people), Democrats embraced it.

Tweety, the concerns from Democrats stemmed from Trump being untrustworthy rather than equivalent to Trump supporter's anti-vaccination (the-government-is-trying-to-track-you-through-the-vaccine or the-virus-is-a-hoax or the-virus-is-like-the-flu-so-let-nature-take-its-course) crazy opinions. 

For example, Trump and many Trump supporters are anti-vaxers and Q-crazies.  Trump spewed lies that displayed his anti-science egocentric beliefs.  In fact, Governor Cuomo was pointing out that the Federal "opinion" at the time was nonsense because it was anti-science.  Which is not the same as Democrats not wanting a vaccine.  Democrats wanted a vaccine on day one so long as scientist and not Trump's crazy and unqualified picks as the head of the CDC and the head of the Federal non-response to the pandemic, were free to speak and do their jobs in order to save lives in our country.  

So, no bullhorns from Democrats...there was healthy skepticism which evolved quickly into acceptance of the new scientific process that allowed rapid development.  

Not like the antivaxx nonsense of conservative leaders.