President Biden thread

44 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

The answer remains; why is it Biden's responsibility to convince Trumpublicans to take Trump's vaccines? Why does Biden need to take special steps to address the conservative covidiots instead of republican political leaders? Why aren't they encouraging vaccination among their supporters? 

As you have pointed out, Biden is consistently pro-science and pro-vaccination.

My simple answer is:  he's the current sitting President and I think it is indeed his job to address vaccine hesitancy.  

I do agree that Republican leaders might be more affective and it's their job too.  Biden is the leader.

 I live in a restriction free state so it really doesn't affect me as I'm vaccinated am comfortable going to bars, restaurants, movies theaters, concerts, gyms anywhere.  But I imagine people in areas where there are still lockdowns. Frontline workers I imagine are tired of it too.

I'm not the only one:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/24/politics/joe-biden-vaccine-hesitancy/index.html

4 minutes ago, Tweety said:

My simple answer is:  he's the current sitting President and I think it is indeed his job to address vaccine hesitancy.  

I do agree that Republican leaders might be more affective and it's their job too.  Biden is the leader.

 I live in a restriction free state so it really doesn't affect me as I'm vaccinated am comfortable going to bars, restaurants, movies theaters, concerts, gyms anywhere.  But I imagine people in areas where there are still lockdowns. Frontline workers I imagine are tired of it too.

I'm not the only one:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/24/politics/joe-biden-vaccine-hesitancy/index.html

I just don't think that Biden has ignored the hesitancy...certainly his health experts and advisors are talking about it and there's active public health advertising across all platforms to increase vaccination.  That says that the Biden administration is actively engaged.  Biden repeatedly speaks about getting vaccinated now, sooner rather than later, etc.  

What we have is absence of leadership on the Republican side of the aisle and it shows in the hesitancy among their devoted voting base. 

Republicans have to feed the lie like the current Arizona recount. It's the formula to keep a cult. Ignorance and passion. 

What worries me is that, if they remain unvaccinated, what sort of variants could potentially pop up. Remember we are the ONLY COUNTRY in the world that is completely irresponsible re medications, anti virals/bacterials etc. We take all the OTC's touted on advertisements, our Drs appease us with so many prescriptions, our food suppliers cater to our whims re attractive food like redder apples, appealing fruit and vegetables and chemically and biologically engineer our food, so I think we are a PETRI DISH of chemicals. Our companies are allowed to dump their waste products polluting our environment, ala Dupont etc, to infect us with alien unnatural chemical bonds from their products, because of republican deregulation and corrupt politicians. 

Who knows what unnatural genes we carry and how will a variant develop, especially in republican strongholds because of their non science attitudes, don't take precautions and spitefully seek out contrarian behaviors? 

That's my main concern re republicans. Ignorance and carelessness coupled with teenage mind belligerence among republicans is a disaster just waiting to happen and it won't be a mass shooting of hundreds, but a disaster of hundreds of thousands. Didn't Trump just do exactly that? 

8 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Yes, that is correct.  He's the leader of the country, and claims that he will unite all of us.

Republicans need to help out, too. 

It should not go unnoticed that according to the Monmouth poll referenced above, less then half of independents plan on getting vaccinated.  

And this poll was done before the J and J news and pause.

Anecdotally, as someone actively involved in vaccinating people on a daily basis, I can tell you hesitancy has drastically increased.  Likely among all groups.

So the people who are turning up to be vaccinated by you are expressing hesitancy to you? 

How are you then convincing them to take it and maybe your message is the solution that Biden needs. I think you should tell us what you say to them and let's all refine it and you email it to Biden's administration. I promise you won't combust if you helped Biden. 

39 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Let me explain.

Everyone who shows up at the vaccine clinic is planning on getting vaccinated.  There isn't much opportunity to  convince the ones who don't want to be vaccinated,  because they don't come to the vaccine clinic.

Occasionally,  someone who is a little nervous about it will stop, and we are able to reassure them and they get it.  But that isn't a significant number of people, and they were already more likely then not to get it.

Evidently, I already am helping the Biden administration as I've had a part in tens of thousands of vaccinations that Biden is taking credit for. 

I actually haven't heard Biden take credit for anything even though he was the sole driver. That's a republican meme.

Evidently you conviently forget that Trump secretly took the vaccine and held back from telling his supporters until exposed, yet you would try to gaslight us that the denier in chief was responsible for the success of this vaccine rollout. 

2 hours ago, Beerman said:

!Yes, that is correct.  He's the leader of the country, and claims that he will unite all of us.

Republicans need to help out, too. 

It should not go unnoticed that according to the Monmouth poll referenced above, less then half of independents plan on getting vaccinated.  

And this poll was done before the J and J news and pause.

Anecdotally, as someone actively involved in vaccinating people on a daily basis, I can tell you hesitancy has drastically increased.  Likely among all groups.

It's all over the news about hesitancy and vaccinations rates falling.  Is it that people have suddenly changed their mind and that people that were going to get it are now not going to?  Or have we reached the point where the hesitant are emerging as those that planned to get it all along are dwindling as they've already gotten it.

Yes, I would agree it's fallen among all groups.   I think the young are among them most .  They might not feel the need if they get sick they feel they will be fine.  I'm sure you've noticed here in Florida how they largely ignore things.  My 21 year old student showed me a picture of a party that she was missing while doing her clinical with me and it was mobbed and maskless as if there isn't a pandemic concern at all.   Others have concerns about how it will affect their fertility.

But just about ever poll shows that hesitancy is greatest among republicans, but thankfully it seems elders are being vaccinated well.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/03/12/976172586/little-difference-in-vaccine-hesitancy-among-white-and-black-americans-poll-find

Anyone can see that unity and reconciliation are a long way off.  I'm glad to hear that Biden at least is calling for it.  

Better than the "f" your feelings attitude we've had to endure.  With the passion for Trump not waning it certainly is a daunting task for "unity".

I do understand using it against him and have heard from day 1 "he's calling for unity and yet he's..........".  That's fair.  There's a good case to say he went first for the liberal progressive agenda without regard to bipartisan politics and unity.  

9 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I just don't think that Biden has ignored the hesitancy...certainly his health experts and advisors are talking about it and there's active public health advertising across all platforms to increase vaccination.  That says that the Biden administration is actively engaged.  Biden repeatedly speaks about getting vaccinated now, sooner rather than later, etc.  

What we have is absence of leadership on the Republican side of the aisle and it shows in the hesitancy among their devoted voting base. 

Agree that it's doubtful we're going to see Rand Paul tout the vaccine.  Senator Ron Johnson has even stated that he sees no reason for a massive vaccination.  They've downplayed the need for masks, mitigation and efforts all along, so it's no wonder the hesitancy is highest in republicans.  

That said, I have to agree with some analysts that Biden missed a good opportunity to acknowledge it head on in his speech and show even more leadership and calling on Republicans to help.  In my opinion.  It's certainly not that he's been anti-vax or not encouraging all along.  

There are some novel things going on to encourage the hesitant...beer, free rides, pot.....

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/04/29/free-rides-and-beer-incentives-are-added-to-vaccine-drive/

2 hours ago, Beerman said:

Evidently, I already am helping the Biden administration as I've had a part in tens of thousands of vaccinations that Biden is taking credit for. 

Biden has very early on acknowledged and thanked the Trump administration for getting the vaccine.  But certainly you can understand that in April 2021 he's not going to continue to thank Trump for the program he's continuing and making decisions for.  He is a politician you know.  LOL

I got my vaccine in December and thanked the Trump administration for getting it to me and the Governor for choosing health care providers (per recommendations from the CDC) first to get vaccinated.

But thank you for getting vaccinated.

10 hours ago, MunoRN said:

.... or just not being Trump.  

I stated that a couple of times before that this is my opinion on why the caravan started when Biden won the election.  It could have been any Democrat winning and my feeling is that this would have happened.  Saying Biden "caused it" is a bit of a twist.