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After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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36 minutes ago, Beerman said:

There is a long list available without much effort on Trumps accomplishments.  You likely disagree with them, but don't pretend you are unaware of of them.

  

Just so you know, we who are not Trump supporters are well aware that Trump accomplished damaging our democracy.  We are not pretending that we don't know, we just don't agree that his accomplishments were good for this country.

First and foremost, Trump failed to uphold his oath of office and was twice impeached for it (those stick, by the way)!  Second, Trump's lies that he is the cause of a good economy is refuted with facts.  Trump rode the Obama economic momentum.  And so as illiterate and corrupt as he is, even he could not mess that up! 

Other accomplishments? Like what? Trump's poor response to the pandemic, poor support of American stated values, Trump's attempted coup on January 6, Trump's cozying up to dictators and giving state secrets to the Russians and other foreign enemies?  Trump supporters may be fine with this long list of accomplishments, but the rest of us know that he was not good for this country!  

We also don't agree that he worked as a president should.  In fact, Trump sat on his bottom all day long watching TV, tweeting, golfing, or going to rallies because the Fuhrer needs his daily dose of praise from his worshipers (Trump supporters).  Trump is the laziest, racist (Andrew Jackson is a close second), most simple-minded president our country ever ensured.  Accomplishments?  Yes, for white supremacy.      

Thus, unlike Trump supporters we do not agree that Trump accomplished anything good for this country.    So, there is no pretending.   Trump's media echo chamber and Trump supporters want to change American History. It is not going to happen.  Trump is literally the worse president to ever be given the honor of the presidency.

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40 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Glad you didn't take the bait.  He's had some failures but got things done.  Most Presidents in my lifetime have gotten things done, particularly early on.  The same can be said for Trump and Biden also.  Obviously highlighting failures.(such as the wall not being built, and Biden's border situation)and what isn't being done, or what they disagree with (tax cuts for Trump vs. spending programs for Biden) is what people will focus on.

Well educate me. Just five things Trump accomplished. Seriously, only five or just three, then. 

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Found this political commentary site @ FactSquared Press.  Thought comparison to Warren Harding interesting.  Feel Biden keeping his public commentary low to help lower animosity throughout the country post Trump presidency and focuses on letting his actions/ agenda  be focus, instead of personality.

Will be interesting to hear Wednesday presidential address.

 

Wake Up to Politics   April 16th, 2021

Analysis: Nearing 100 days, Biden relinquishes the presidency of our minds

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“America’s present need is not heroics, but healings; not nostrums, but normalcy; not revolution, but restoration; not agitation, but adjustment; not surgery but serenity; not the dramatic, but the dispassionate...” 

Although it may sound like it, those words were not Joe Biden’s from his 2020 presidential campaign. Instead, they were spoken by Warren Harding in his 1920 bid for the White House exactly 100 years before. But the core of Harding’s message — crystallized in his slogan “return to normalcy” — sounds positively Bidenesque...

...While the White House was the center of activity under Trump, it is Capitol Hill that is buzzing now, as lawmakers conduct bipartisan negotiations on infrastructure, minimum wage, gun control, and a range of other issues. 

The future of the Biden agenda is largely out of his hands, as is the possibility of bipartisan cooperation, which he campaigned on and promised in his inaugural address. Moderate Republican senators have grown quickly distrustful of the president’s bipartisan talks, frustrated with his handling of the $1.9 trillion stimulus package. When it comes to infrastructure and other policies, progress is more likely to be made among the bipartisan Senate “G-20” gang than in an Oval Office meeting. ..

 

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

He also has the advantage of being a Trump protege (his campaign had a video of him and his child playing "build that wall") and people that are Trump supporters will likely get behind him if Trump gets out of the way.  Imagine if Trump does the right thing and steps down and endorses him?  Sadly though that would admit defeat, something he seems constitutionally incapable of doing.

I haven't been totally unhappy with DeSantis.  I'm certainly not happy with things like denying felons the right to vote after the voters voted that they could, nor his "anti riot" stance.  But some of his environmental and other policies I've liked.  I also benefited from the lockdown being lifted early and never going back.  But overall I can see how he would be a better choice than Trump.

Maybe Trump then could run for governor of Florida?

Haha...just messin with you. 

I'm curious....what is it about DeSantis' anti riot stance you don't like?

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, NRSKarenRN said:

Although it may sound like it, those words were not Joe Biden’s from his 2020 presidential campaign.

No, that's not at all what I was thinking. 

I read the whole article.  Certainly some interesting and entertaining spin  on certain topics.

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6 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Maybe Trump then could run for governor of Florida?

Haha...just messin with you. 

I'm curious....what is it about DeSantis' anti riot stance you don't like?

This:

The Right to Crash Cars Into People

How Republicans across the country came to endorse a terrorist tactic against protesters

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Earlier this week, Florida Republicans enacted a law they claimed would prevent riots in the state. It's real purpose, of course, was to discourage protesting and punish demonstrators. One of the bill’s provisions has received a fair amount of national attention, as it seems to give Floridians permission to attack protesters with their cars. The bill doesn’t exactly make it legal to run someone over, but it does shield drivers from civil liability if they injure or kill protesters on Florida roads.

Didn't they learn from Charlottesville?

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

It's not clear at this time that Trump loving republicans are capable of discerning riot from protest. For instance, most cannot agree that Trumpers rioted and engaged in a violent attack on our capitol on 010621...yet they want to write laws addressing that which they cannot identify in real life.  It is clear that Trump loving republicans will attempt to redefine words to suit their feelings.  

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17 minutes ago, Beerman said:

No, that's not at all what I was thinking. 

I read the whole article.  Certainly some interesting and entertaining spin  on certain topics.

Still so proud of Trump's accomplishments that you can't even list three? 

I'm serious. This isn't about baiting as Tweety suggests, I want to know what you consider as his accomplishments. 

Surely when you are proud of something, you should be able to at substantiate your statement? 

Biden * immediately toned down the country’s and international anxieties * immediately sorted out the pandemic * immediately began dealing with the economic aspects 

Those are the things I mean and I also think you should dissect the above listings re how they may not be acceptable from a republican point of view as accomplishments. 

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Factcheck.org  April 14, 2021

Underselling the Infrastructure in Infrastructure Plan

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...In an interview on “Fox News Sunday” on April 11, for example, Republican Sen. John Thune claimed “only about 6% of the president’s proposal actually goes to what … everyday Americans would describe as infrastructure.” GOP Rep. Liz Cheney used the same figure in her appearance that day on “Face the Nation.”...

..According to a breakdown of spending by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, the plan includes $115 billion to “modernize bridges, highways, roads, and main streets in critical need of repair.” There’s another $17 billion to “improve ports and waterways.” And there’s $311 billion to build high speed broadband, to invest in power infrastructure, to upgrade and modernize drinking water supplies, replace all lead pipes and service lines and to monitor drinking water quality.

That all comes to nearly 17% of the total spending — nearly three times higher than the percentage cited by Thune.

When House Republicans released their Commitment to America plan in September, members promised, “We will upgrade and modernize America’s infrastructure by: Bringing high–speed internet to every household in the United States, launching a five–year plan to fix our roads, bridges, and airports, while cutting the permitting process time in half.”

So House Republicans were including broadband in their definition of infrastructure back in September. And they also mentioned fixing airports, something Thune did not. The American Jobs Plan includes $25 billion to improve airports....

...The Biden plan also includes $80 billion to improve passenger and freight rail service. Thune didn’t list rail improvements, but former President Donald Trump has considered rail to be infrastructure in the past. ...

During remarks on the American Jobs Plan on April 7, Biden described the plan as “a blueprint for infrastructure needed for tomorrow — not just yesterday; tomorrow — for American jobs, for American competitiveness.”

Under that definition, Biden said, investing in clean energy to address climate change is part of infrastructure, because it helps to prevent the destruction of businesses or farms by floods or wildfires exacerbated by climate change. To that end, the plan includes a $174 billion investment in electric vehicles, including rebates to purchase them, incentives to build charging stations and a replacement of the federal fleet with electric vehicles. It also includes $46 billion to support clean energy manufacturing, $35 billion for climate change research and development, and $400 billion in clean energy tax credits (such as for weatherization of homes and commercial properties, for commercial clean energy generation and storage, and to encourage carbon capture deployment)....

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Curious1997 said:

Biden * immediately toned down the country’s and international anxieties * immediately sorted out the pandemic * immediately began dealing with the economic aspects 

Those are all very vague and none specific.  Our anxieties are toned down?  How so?  Sorted out the pandemic? What does that mean?  And, dealing with the economy? Um, OK.  I deal with the economy on a daily basis.   How is he dealing with the economy?

Any specific action and result you could point us to?

 

 

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7 minutes ago, NRSKarenRN said:

That all comes to nearly 17% of the total spending — nearly three times higher than the percentage cited by Thune.

Oh, 17%.  Much better.  

8 minutes ago, NRSKarenRN said:

Under that definition, Biden said, investing in clean energy to address climate change is part of infrastructure, because it helps to prevent the destruction of businesses or farms by floods or wildfires exacerbated by climate change. To that end, the plan includes a $174 billion investment in electric vehicles, including rebates to purchase them, incentives to build charging stations and a replacement of the federal fleet with electric vehicles. It also includes $46 billion to support clean energy manufacturing, $35 billion for climate change research and development, and $400 billion in clean energy tax credits (such as for weatherization of homes and commercial properties, for commercial clean energy generation and storage, and to encourage carbon capture deployment)....

Yes, they found a way to include liberal wish list items as infrastructure.   Rebates to people for buying electric cars is not infrastructure.  

Under Biden's definition,  I think some military spending certainly could be added to the bill.  How'd like that?

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40 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Maybe Trump then could run for governor of Florida?

Haha...just messin with you. 

I'm curious....what is it about DeSantis' anti riot stance you don't like?

I don't think his heart is in the right place and the timing is suspect.  

Suddenly when BLM protests started they have gotten concerned about protests and protestors are the enemy and all are being lumped into the category of rioters.  The BLM protests in Florida were largely uneventful, most arrests had their charges dropped, so it's really just a fear-based response and I think the aim was to suppress protests in the first place, particularly BLM protests, not out of concern for safety.   Most of what he mentioned in his roll out happened elsewhere such as the notion that Portland, Seattle and New York "burned to the ground last Summer" (and don't be stupid and vote like they did up there) and the destruction of confederate monuments that happened elsewhere.  

I don't like the idea that if a protest turns violent, innocent people could get charged, and individual municipalities are held responsible.

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