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After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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Beerman said:

Let's not pretend we haven't discussed this before.

Detaining those who've entered illegally would be a start.  

We deported, err "returned" more illegals since May 2023 then in any other year since 2015.  Who told you otherwise?   Are you aware that Biden is getting flack from the uber progressives in his own party?  

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And more people  then ever are fleeing the USA to live in other countries.  I wish every day a British passport would land on my head.  

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subee said:

We deported, err "returned" more illegals since May 2023 then in any other year since 2015.  Who told you otherwise?   Are you aware that Biden is getting flack from the uber progressives in his own party?  

"Since Title 42 ended in May, Biden officials have deported or returned roughly 500,000 people to Mexico and other countries, exceeding Trump's totals, which averaged roughly 500,000 annually. But Biden's higher numbers are partly the result of a much greater volume of illegal crossings."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/02/11/trump-biden-immigration-border-compared/

Probably because so many were let in.....

It's like patting yourself on the back because you in a  huge amount of people them had to deport a large number. 

Err............? 

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Crusades said:

"Since Title 42 ended in May, Biden officials have deported or returned roughly 500,000 people to Mexico and other countries, exceeding Trump's totals, which averaged roughly 500,000 annually. But Biden's higher numbers are partly the result of a much greater volume of illegal crossings."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2024/02/11/trump-biden-immigration-border-compared/

Probably because so many were let in.....

It's like patting yourself on the back because you in a  huge amount of people them had to deport a large number. 

Err............? 

The operative phrase here being "probably because so many were let in". Probably? Translation: you don't actually know what you're talking about.

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heron said:

The operative phrase here being "probably because so many were let in". Probably? Translation: you don't actually know what you're talking about.

Did you not see where the WashPo article states "But Biden's higher numbers are partly the result of a much greater volume of illegal crossings."?

I'll keep to myself who I think does and does not know what they're talking about.

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subee said:

We deported, err "returned" more illegals since May 2023 then in any other year since 2015.  Who told you otherwise?   Are you aware that Biden is getting flack from the uber progressives in his own party?  

How many illegal immigrants have been released into the country in the Biden years vs under the Trump administration?

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Beerman said:

How many illegal immigrants have been released into the country in the Biden years vs under the Trump administration?

Oh, it's so easy to complain while also being in favor of the status quo and refusing to even debate a bipartisan bill addressing sweeping changes favored by normal Republicans.  

 

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heron said:

The operative phrase here being "probably because so many were let in". Probably? Translation: you don't actually know what you're talking about.

Sorry. The reason Biden has deported more people than Trump is because more people had crossed illegally hence a higher deportation number.  Not probably but actually. Thank you for correctionig me. If you read the source you would know this and  other facts as well..... 

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toomuchbaloney said:

Oh, it's so easy to complain while also being in favor of the status quo and refusing to even debate a bipartisan bill addressing sweeping changes favored by normal Republicans.  

 

What's a "normal" republican?  

There is no debate. It was a bill to either get more funding for Ukraine or the default, of making Republicans look like they don't want a border solution. Theater.  They knew that bill would never pass. LOL

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Trump border policies included 3,900 children separated from parents

How the Trump White House misled the world about its family separation policy

Trump-era policy separating migrant parents from children: Deal would settle key lawsuit

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...The Trump administration's zero-tolerance policy directed Border Patrol agents to separate young children from their families, as their parents were tried in federal court on misdemeanor charges for crossing into the United States without proper documentation. 

Department of Homeland Security officials initially defended the policy, saying they were abiding by the law – parents entering the country had been charged with a crime, and children couldn't stay with them. 

But as the numbers mounted, so did public backlash. Children were held in emergency Border Patrol facilities and in a variety of shelter settings overseen by government contractors. Images of separated youths circulated in the media, along with audio and video of toddlers in holding facilities, crying for their parents.

 

How the Trump White House misled the world about its family separation policy

Settlement over Trump-era family separations at the border limits future separations for 8 years

The Christian Science Monitor April 16, 2024

How Biden and Trump compare on border crossings and immigration

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Some Republicans claim that Mr. Biden has let in as many as 8 million or 9 million migrants. However, it's not accurate to simply add up encounters and gotaways as a proxy for illegal immigration. 

One reason is that since the pandemic, more migrants have tried multiple times to enter, inflating the number of encounters. Also, many of the encountered migrants aren't permitted to stay in the country. Others gain legal status. Hundreds of thousands have claimed asylum and been allowed to remain while their cases are pending. Furthermore, migrants arriving at ports of entry are often participating in humanitarian parole programs, which the Biden administration expanded and considers a method of legal immigration. A federal judge upheld one such parole program in March. 

 

 

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NRSKarenRN said:

Trump border policies included 3,900 children separated from parents

How the Trump White House misled the world about its family separation policy

Trump-era policy separating migrant parents from children: Deal would settle key lawsuit

How the Trump White House misled the world about its family separation policy

Settlement over Trump-era family separations at the border limits future separations for 8 years

The Christian Science Monitor April 16, 2024

How Biden and Trump compare on border crossings and immigration

1172999_1_0416-BORDER3_large.thumb.png.1cf51d3c4424155f1e161e888aa39b21.png

 

We're supposed to forget the cruelty and mismanagement of Trump policy.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

We're supposed to forget the cruelty and mismanagement of Trump policy.  

If your point is that Biden had a golden opportunity to handle illegal immigration better than Trump did, I agree.

Unfortunately, he failed miserably. 

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