President Biden thread

Beerman said:

Nothing to see here, I'm sure.

"President Joe Biden may have sent or received about 82,000 pages of emails through pseudonymous email accounts, according to a filing by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA).

The court filing was made as part of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit brought by the Southeastern Legal Foundation, a conservative nonprofit organization, against NARA."

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-pseudonym-emails-what-we-know-82000-pages-unearthed-1839381

What do you think this means? 

Beerman said:

Good question.  I'll admit that I'm curious as to why the VP of the USA would have 82k pages of emails under pseudonames.  Aren't you?

I'm curious and so are the people that are using the Freedom of Information Act to get them.  We'll see what they uncover.  But as was indicated, the pseudonyms are private accounts and not necessarily uncommon. Romney had a pseudonym Twitter account.  Heck even I have a pseudonym here at AN so I can talk freely about work stuff and politics.  So that's not the controversy to me.  

Beerman said:

Good question.  I'll admit that I'm curious as to why the VP of the USA would have 82k pages of emails under pseudonames.  Aren't you?

No, not really.  I suppose if some nefarious communications are exposed I might change my mind but the pursuit of anonymity in a public life seems somewhat normal.

Beerman said:

Nothing to see here, I'm sure.

"President Joe Biden may have sent or received about 82,000 pages of emails through pseudonymous email accounts, according to a filing by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA).

The court filing was made as part of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit brought by the Southeastern Legal Foundation, a conservative nonprofit organization, against NARA."

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-pseudonym-emails-what-we-know-82000-pages-unearthed-1839381

"May have" isn't a story for me.  Let me know if they can legally prove it because I don't know what this non story even means in terms of damages to US citizens.  

subee said:

"May have" isn't a story for me.  Let me know if they can legally prove it because I don't know what this non story even means in terms of damages to US citizens.  

I don't think it's a question of "legally proving" they exist, as it appears, at least according to the reference provided that the National Archives  and Records  Administration ( NARA) has acknowledged their existence:

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The report said that NARA had identified about 82,000 pages that are "potentially responsive" to the FOIA lawsuit.

"NARA has completed a search for potentially responsive documents and is currently processing those documents for the purpose of producing non-exempt portions of any responsive records on a monthly rolling basis," the filing said.

"Given the scope of Plaintiff's FOIA request, which seeks copies of all emails in three separate accounts over an eight-year period, the volume of potentially responsive records is necessarily large," the filing says.

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If he was involved in something improper, and I'm not suggesting he was, Mr. Biden has been around long enough to know how to cover his tracks.  As these are copies of emails that he turned over to NARA as he left the White House, I suspect that the Southeastern Legal Foundation isn't going to find the smoking gun they are looking for.

chare said:

I suspect that the Southeastern Legal Foundation isn't going to find the smoking gun they are looking for.

Even though @Beerman said "Nothing to see here I'm sure.......I'll admit that I'm curious as to why the VP of the USA would have 82k pages of emails under pseudonames.  Aren't you?"  It clearly, at least to me,  is voiced in a shroud of suspicion.  The seed is planted and some sometimes doesn't matter whether or not a smoking gun is found or not.  Even your statement "he knows how to cover his tracks" indicates a veil of suspicion that even if no smoking gun is found, that suspicion will be there because the tracks are covered.  That's all conspiracy needs.

We live in a world where evidence doesn't matter, that people don't wait for evidence to be uncovered before making judgement.  And when the evidence doesn't pan out our way we still believe the conspiracy.  Like MTG saying "Biden took bribes"...no evidence or conviction, and the big one "Trump won the election"

I don't suppose they call him the "Preacher of the House" for no reason.  I wouldn't mind if they acted like Jesus did.

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In his first day as the new Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, Mike Johnson (R-LA) wasted no time in using sweeping religious rhetoric to magnify this political moment. While addressing his colleagues he shared how, "I don't believe there are any coincidences. I believe that scripture, the Bible, is very clear that God is the one that raises up those in authority, he raised up each of you, all of us. And I believe that God has ordained and allowed us to be brought here to this specific moment and time.”

While what Speaker Johnson believes God ordained him to do will become clear in the coming weeks and months, his prior work, words, and writing give several clues. Although he has never called himself a Christian Nationalist nor publicly embraced the term as other House Reps have done, each example points to the strong embrace of the ethos of Christian nationalism—a cultural framework that advocates for a particular expression of Christianity to be fused with American civic life, with the government vigorously promoting and preserving this version of Christianity as the principal and undisputed cultural framework.

https://time.com/6329207/speaker-mike-johnson-christian-nationalism/?fbclid=IwAR0H_ykocPFUT71OsBssAUv60XVW6GA-y4dfrEzwEgGCjdaSMzYnTVXSH0k

Tweety said:

Even though @Beerman said "Nothing to see here I'm sure.......I'll admit that I'm curious as to why the VP of the USA would have 82k pages of emails under pseudonames.  Aren't you?"  It clearly, at least to me,  is voiced in a shroud of suspicion.  The seed is planted and some sometimes doesn't matter whether or not a smoking gun is found or not.  Even your statement "he knows how to cover his tracks" indicates a veil of suspicion that even if no smoking gun is found, that suspicion will be there because the tracks are covered.  That's all conspiracy needs.

We live in a world where evidence doesn't matter, that people don't wait for evidence to be uncovered before making judgement.  And when the evidence doesn't pan out our way we still believe the conspiracy.  Like MTG saying "Biden took bribes"...no evidence or conviction, and the big one "Trump won the election"

 

Propaganda works.  

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President Joe Biden's approval rating among Democrats fell 11 percentage points in the past month, likely driven by his vocal support for Israel and an increasing number of Democrats who are more supportive of Palestinians, a new Gallup poll found.

I was curious about this when I read Beerman's post about Biden's number's dropping and after seeing in a patient's room significant coverage of the protests against Biden over Israel on Fox News.

I think the Israeli conflict will cause a dip in his already low approval ratings.  Whether is makes the calls for his stepping out of the race louder will remain to be seen.  

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/bidens-approval-rating-drops-as-white-house-support-for-israel-divides-democrats/